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while disgruntled Citizens move to other hobbies that don't involve actually playing Elite.

What a strange assertion. Especially given I’ve shown you various examples of SC players doing just that:

The SC Refugees:

I feel like some of us are doing the opposite.

Long time Star Citzen followers (from 2012, here), have been soaking up every drip of content for years and the game is growing stale, so I'm switching to Elite Dangerous because it's a finished game and I can distract myself now, so I can enjoy Star Citizen more later.
Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/ooi7kq/just_a_friendly_o7_to_all_the_cmdrs_who_have_been/h60vyhu/

I'm the opposite. I got burnt out and bored with SC (been here since 2014) and found odyssey fun and refreshing. Framerates are great, everything is novel and endevoured with little to no bugs. Enjoyed learning how to play and bind my Virpils. Only crappy and annoying thing that I've come accross so far for me, is that FDEV didnt fricking allow for 32 + binds..what?!!!. Using joy2key fixed that but jeezus guys.know your audience and terrible decision. People like me who prefer the space sim genre, generally use accesories and the accoutrement. Granted I'm not too deep and connected enough to realize if there's anything substantially wrong like the hard core denizens. But it's great so far, love mining and bounty hunting. It is defiently more grindy. But I can choose how much I grind or not. As what are we grinding for ultimately anyways? Experience? Well that's granted. New toys? Not that hard. Engineering? Haven't tried yet. An end game cinamatic? I've spent way too much $$ on SC and with better discretion, I'll spend as much time as I want on ED. Plus the journey seems to be more the point anyways.
Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/onxtrr/long_time_sc_player_here_can_someone_explain_to/h5v2n9c/

Happy for you... I went the opposite direction. I found Elite to be far more fun due to its completed features. Being able to actually explore and not use it as a screenshot generator. Not worrying about the server 30k and wiping out all my progress. Or fighting to get in a server with friends.
Source: https://old.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/o4q84p/new_star_citizen_player/h2k04zn/

Oh goodie, are we doing random 'refugee' quotes again? Ok...

August 2021:

Until FDev brings gameplay balance to EDO, I'm only playing SC.
Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/p2itw7/in_elite_dangerous_commanders_perspective_on_star/h8kawam/


November 2021:

I have gone back to Elite Dangerous where I can keep the content I grind for.
Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/qogmd3/whos_coming_back_for_315_whos_leaving_after_315/hjnu6xh/

Plenty more examples knocking about if you’d like though:

Source: https://old.reddit.com/r/starcitizen_refunds/comments/r8hmtb/did_a_lot_of_ed_players_moved_to_sc_as_claimed_by/hn781hk/

Source: https://old.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/r6gd13/star_citizen_a_scam_i_dont_think_so/hmsz1jn/


Plz don’t get jelly at those guys hanging with your ex ;)

It's literally 1000x more impressive at a graphical level than anything out there available in the space games department

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Mods active on this one, editing posts and PMing users

Always warms my heart to see you commenting on overzealous moderation. It is quite the treat. 🤣
 
Jump Town... Not my video.

But i could do what this guy was doing for hours, just stay on a hill near by and watch the battle going on below and above.

Although is a game where this sort of experience is possible, the game is almost built for it, its rare to actually experience this, a mini war going on, ground and air, with all the ships weaving their artistry in points of light, trails and tracer fire, all the flares and explosions sparkling bright it is one thing this game does well, i only wish the author of this video recorded sound, i don't mind the music, but it should be in the background to game sound.

Source: https://youtu.be/OB1Zgml-ZfI?t=115
 
If only FDev could figure out how to make ship interiors like the community so much wanted, and didn't evade the question only to be put against the wall and duct tape it in a rush for Carriers, or even finally let us land on all the beautiful earth like planets with actual atmosphere...

If you have a chance to give SC a go I'd advise you to do it, once you'll do you'll notice they are at different scales of production quality and depth of how their features are implemented. Not just ascetically but mechanic wise. From multicrew to flight model to space ship mechanics. It's no wonder why disgruntled CMDR's move to playing SC while disgruntled Citizens move to other hobbies that don't involve actually playing Elite.
Like I said before, ED has a community where half or more didnt want space legs. They wanted to be strapped in the cockpit all the time. Then FDev sees a way to add legs, so they did. I find it funny that only after they did that, those folks went to SC. Why didnt they go before? It's like they saw the legs Odyssey provided, then realized they want more. No kidding! Wow, what a surprise. The other half of the community has been wanting legs and interiors the whole time.
Now they show a seat you can interact with. Im predicting a fade to black thing, but still thats a good step. But seriously, knowing FDev, interact with the seat means to lean against it. What happens if it's a smooth transition? Game changer.
They've added atmoshperic bodies. They're amazing looking, aside from a tiling issue, similar to one SC had a few years ago. But from that you can see they're going to do this in stages. Next could be water...water may have more complex life than what we see now, etc. Then later...other stuff. They'll let us play that when it works, or 6 months prior.

Im sure part of my rants are because recently when I go into SC, I get stuck in a wall or fall through a floor and dont make it to my ship. I did make it to my ship a few months ago, but had to log shortly after flying to an outpost sized station. What I did see looked nice, but some NPC's walked by, and I went in another room, and when I came back, they had different outfits on. Where's CR when you need him to make it so those NPC's cant change outfits unless they get on a train, drive away for 15 minutes, change, then come back? Where's the fidels? ( I was a bit miffed when I saw that..I do expect a lot from this 500 million dollar game)

A few years ago I was able to play SC. But as time has gone on, I cant. Isnt that a bit backwards? And shouldn't they always be changing/upgrading their requirements? It's pre-alpha. They can and should do that.

One of the unforseen good things that has happened to SC is that it's only in one system. When Odyssey alpha was out, everyone was in one system and it was busy as could be, and for some of us, that was a good thing. The chat got a bit rough at times, but it felt vibrant etc. When SC has 101 systems, that would be like a 60 LY bubble in ED. It would be quite busy still, but energetic. But what Im getting at is that for you to bump into folks in ED is quite rare. Even friends are usually spread out, doing their own thing. It is a blast to get together though.

I'll try SC again this weekend, and let you know how it goes.
 
Always warms my heart to see you commenting on overzealous moderation. It is quite the treat. 🤣
Goes well with spending literally tens of thousands of posts on how other people are zealots because they feel devs need to be paid for DLC. 🤣
Just you wait. I’ve been looking into tax avoidance in Delaware. Full burn accountancy action tomorrow ;)
Note how all this stuff is always retroactive. CIG reporting losses for ten years in a row? TheAgent will explain how that means they are in deep trouble and about to go down. 11th year is in the black? Watch TheAgent explain how this was always to be expected because of a completely new conspiracy theory.

The dude is the local astrology version for Star Citizen. I am sure he means well, but his predictions are worth nothing at all but presented with the same conviction of your local Karen pushing healing crystals.
 
Note how all this stuff is always retroactive. CIG reporting losses for ten years in a row? TheAgent will explain how that means they are in deep trouble and about to go down. 11th year is in the black? Watch TheAgent explain how this was always to be expected because of a completely new conspiracy theory.

The dude is the local astrology version for Star Citizen. I am sure he means well, but his predictions are worth nothing at all but presented with the same conviction of your local Karen pushing healing crystals.

You should stop reading SA Sleut, it clearly raises your blood pressure.

The Delaware thing wasn’t a leak, or a prediction of doom, it was an observation. I’ll stick it here for others who are interested:

TheAgent said:
This is the last year they can't claim a negative and have that accumulation count as an offset on their taxes btw.

Every company I've worked for has mysteriously been incorporated in Delaware and ran heavily into the red for ~10 years. Profits seems to start right up after that.

In contrast his Turbulent stuff, for example, was designated as a leak, predictive not 'retroactive', and panned out pretty well.

I’m happy enough reading tea leaves like that personally ;)

EDIT:

The real drama happens if this one turns out to be accurate though:

TheAgent said:
  • "server meshing" in its original form is scrapped completely as of Q4 2020
  • "no possible way to make it work" with thousands of players in a single instance
  • going forward, areas will be partitioned into about 100 players although "might be less"
  • this is not per system but per arbitrary "zone," that might include planetary bodies, outposts, platforms, etc
  • currently this is working in test bed internals (lol yeah okay we'll loving see)
  • this will be downplayed as "tier 0" or "test version" but will see "no significant improvements"
  • being handled by Turbulent who immediately scrapped the earlier designs and brought in new ideas

Which current events suggest it might be ;)
 
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Jump Town... Not my video.

But i could do what this guy was doing for hours, just stay on a hill near by and watch the battle going on below and above.

Although is a game where this sort of experience is possible, the game is almost built for it, its rare to actually experience this, a mini war going on, ground and air, with all the ships weaving their artistry in points of light, trails and tracer fire, all the flares and explosions sparkling bright it is one thing this game does well, i only wish the author of this video recorded sound, i don't mind the music, but it should be in the background to game sound.

Source: https://youtu.be/OB1Zgml-ZfI?t=115

good to learn they have an alt and its name! 🤣
 
You should stop reading SA Sleut, it clearly raises your blood pressure.
Thats such a weak 'u mad bro?!?!!', I expected better from you. Oh well.
The Delaware thing wasn’t a leak, or a prediction of doom, it was an observation. I’ll stick it here for others who are interested:
And the notable thing is that its only an observation in hindsight. If it truly was a thing, it would have been anticipated before it happened. After ten years the response was "lol we predicted it they are going down lol", and after 11 years it suddenly becomes "we all knew the trend would reverse, it is a very typical thing."

It is simply dishonest and cheap. Absolutely regardless of what happens next year, TheAgent et al. will tell you [x] is exactly what they predicted, you should sell everything you have and hide in a bunker because horrible things will happen in 90 days tops. They have Real Secret Sources! He is the QAnon of SC. The inability to acknowledge such obvious nonsense is both expected and sad, no matter how pathethic SC itself is..
 
beautiful earth like planets with actual atmosphere...

SC doesn't have those though. They have a vague appearance of an atmosphere graphically, to an extent, but they don't have an actual atmosphere. The flight model part of atmospheric flight is a joke. Aerodynamics right out the window for ship shape,size, weight, etc. And the player, or space legs, there is no atmosphere. It's a simple on/off based on the doors, probably why doors are even harder for them. This was already established 5 years ago when you could glitch the player through certain parts of walls or doors and run around in your underpants. It hasn't changed since then, they just blocked the glitch through the "doors."
 
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Always warms my heart to see you commenting on overzealous moderation. It is quite the treat. 🤣

Cheers! I was always quite lax in my moderation. My final year of being a moderator for FD i barely took any actions against people posting, was pretty burned out by the whole thing. I think its rather funny, because i'm sure part of the reason for being asked to step down was due to complaints from salty PvPers who couldn't obey the forum rules and assumed it was me whacking them, as i was always so vocal in threads about things like Open Only. They might have forgot mods aren't allowed to moderate threads they are involved in. Around that time i was also friendly and active with a couple of PvP groups, including the guys of San Tu, helping them with their BGS problems, so its not like I had anything against PvPers in general and not biased against them.

I would never have locked a thread just because someone was saying something negative about FD, and if i had, Brett would have been having words with me.

You might have forgotten, but above the mods here are the CMs, and at least when I was a mod, the CMs watched the moderators and made sure they behaved. Can't quite say the same about Spectrum.
 
uh, dont know of anyone loudly announcing quitting ED to play SC from sdc.
Its just made up nonsense for his fictional universe where he is the brave superhero fighting some imagined injustice. He never really was involved with SDC anyway. Or with any other faction in any other game in any other time period.
 
There were a few posts from SDC members a couple of years ago saying how they were quitting ED and going to SC. I remember it distinctly because all i could think was "Great news for ED!"

i cant really think of any sdc members who would post here that are able to post here lol.

i mean, i never made some grand announcement. i just stopped playing ed and started playing sc. guessing you may be overthinking this.
 
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