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To Solo Play Players: If You Could Disable PVP, Would You Play in Open Play Mode Instead?
- Thread starter AMX-008 GaZowmn
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Attack other players has got one thing exactly it's level up combat skill in the game. So if you don't find it suitable for your own gameplay it's not mean that it's not suitable for game where every ship can be deadly. Also you can avoid attacks and this maneuvers must know every cmdr. Unfortunately we don't have such trainings in game and this experience you can get only if you play.
Robert Maynard
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Robert Maynard
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Indeed - if one chooses to fly in Open - which is not required to engage in any game feature.
Which seems to be the issue for some players - as some players seem to expect that every player will feel the need to "git gud" and play with them in Open whereas there's no need for any player to even tolerate PvP to play this game, given the options available to each player in the launcher.
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"level up" in real gameplay means buying something suitable, running engineering grind, and then learning standard set of lets get out of here fast manouvers. With rugged enough ship that can be as simple as hitting esc -> log out to main menu. Real "level up". On other people not wanting to fly ship where anti-gank modules eat up usable space, or people just new in the game, "level up" experience is boom, buy your ship again. Rinse and repeat. It gets old pretty fast. Other options are fly in solo or curated pg, or gather big enough blocklist.
It's certainly obvious that the PVP fans have difficulty in considering the game in any terms other than combat. It never seems to occur to them that the players who aren't engaging in PVP simply aren't interested in combat.
I've read somewhere that destroying human player ships does not have an influence on gaining combat rank. I try to verify this with a source.
Edit: Found the Info in the ED "inofficial manual Part1: Rookie" on page 90 (German version). The book is from 2019 and I don't know if the info is reliable.
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We could sit there and take turns blowing each other up in the free sidewinders and slowly level ourselves up that way. Or a freind that is already elite could get you up to dangerous or deadly quite quickly. It's also why trading with a carrier no longer earns you trade rank. Unintended ways of gaming the system like those make nearly useless metrics like "Elite" mean even less. Fdev tends to try to put a stop to stuff like that so they can neuter the Elite rank themselves by adding the Elite 1-5 rankings without making it retroactive.
Only in CQC does killing another player count towards rank.
This is true, but there is a fair chunk of pvp game play centred around good guy/bad guy squad interactions.
These result in some pretty dynamic organic wing fights.
If the "bad guys" didn't slaughter the odd arbitrary hapless victim, what would impel these white knight squads to form?
A bit of Canon fodder is good for the game, and if you're in Open then you are part of the story and fair game.
The reason for killing other players is that you can.
That's good enough of a reason.
Avoiding combat in a cutthroat galaxy where every ship comes equipped with a weapon and where you have to engage in some sort of combat, and if you're not into blowing stuff up, then you're forced into avoiding interdictions, dodging enemy fire or perhaps avoiding collisions with neutron stars or a planet surface.(COMBAT Noun. fighting between armed forces. / verb take action to reduce or prevent (something bad or undesirable)
The only way to avoid combat in elite is to not do anything at all really.
That's good enough of a reason.
Avoiding combat in a cutthroat galaxy where every ship comes equipped with a weapon and where you have to engage in some sort of combat, and if you're not into blowing stuff up, then you're forced into avoiding interdictions, dodging enemy fire or perhaps avoiding collisions with neutron stars or a planet surface.(COMBAT Noun. fighting between armed forces. / verb take action to reduce or prevent (something bad or undesirable)
The only way to avoid combat in elite is to not do anything at all really.
You wouldn't need to spend "a month" doing it.
Just hop into Solo, fly to the hotspot areas and check chat (as chat is all modes, so Solo players can chat with PG/Open players). From there you'll get the just of who to block.
A week tops to drastically change how open plays.
From there, just be careful who you team up with as you play.
There is no rule saying this aspect of the game has to be provided by another player.
So playing Solo you still have this from the NPC's.
An Open PvE mode would provide exactly the same gameplay. So the game could lose PvP altogether and remain the same for many players.
Defeating the AI interdiction is easy, even in an unmodded T9 - defeating a players interdiction, with all the engineering on it? Basically impossible.
And given in Open you rarely if-ever run into another human outside of touristy systems, basically makes anything other than Solo pretty redundant.
To add to that, you can just go to Inara, and just start blocking everyone listed in gank squadrons like "the code", or "Go And Kill", as well as anyone in coalition with them, and anyone in coalition with them, and so on. You can get rid of the people likely to interfere pretty easily. A new ganker seems to be born every minute, so Open would never really be safe, even if you had a list of every ganker that has ever played the game right now. I wonder if there is a limit to the number of people you can block?
Well there's a statement of the pointlessness of PVP.
If such were the case surely it would be better to pirate the cargo than send them to the rebuy screen, ignoring the possibility of creating an alt for the role.
Players actually go through the engineering grind for that?
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Soooo, pretend space cops & robbers is far more "pointless" than space trucking computer pixels, or exploring things that don't exist, or galactic politics......
Yeah....riiiiight.
Yeah....riiiiight.