They have dreams they are selling.
Game Discussions Star Citizen Discussion Thread v12
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They have dreams they are selling.
It's a concept for success.
There is no server meshing. How would something that doesn't exist "seem to work"?
Was just having a browse of the SC youtube channel and thought about the amount of videos they have put out over the last 10 years. Took a loot at the playlists. Today being a quiet day, being Orthodox Christmas and just got back from the mother in law's and had drinkies, decided to spend a few minutes cateogrising their videos.
Disclaimers:
There might be some overlap between playlists. I tried to avoid this by not counting any compilation playlists
There might be some videos missing that are not included in playlists.
I combined playlists that were on the same topic, eg: various citizencons, gamescoms, etc.
Take a gander
Notable points:
No idea why Alpha 2.6 got its own mini-playlist.
Apparently it takes 11 videos to explain what Star Citizen is!
The same number of videos declaring its "Playable now"
Only 26 videos on SQ42 (pretty low compared to the rest of the output)
78 ship commercials!!!!
Despite being discontinued for many years, 10 for the chairman is the second biggest playlist. 128 videos, 1280 times Chris said "Yes!" to whatever backers dreamed up.
AtV is the largest playlist by a good margin (actually 3 playlists for some reason).
Well over 1000 videos produced in close to 10 years. Over 100 videos per year. Perhaps 10 videos per month.
Zero released products.
Disclaimers:
There might be some overlap between playlists. I tried to avoid this by not counting any compilation playlists
There might be some videos missing that are not included in playlists.
I combined playlists that were on the same topic, eg: various citizencons, gamescoms, etc.
Take a gander
Notable points:
No idea why Alpha 2.6 got its own mini-playlist.
Apparently it takes 11 videos to explain what Star Citizen is!
The same number of videos declaring its "Playable now"
Only 26 videos on SQ42 (pretty low compared to the rest of the output)
78 ship commercials!!!!
Despite being discontinued for many years, 10 for the chairman is the second biggest playlist. 128 videos, 1280 times Chris said "Yes!" to whatever backers dreamed up.
AtV is the largest playlist by a good margin (actually 3 playlists for some reason).
Well over 1000 videos produced in close to 10 years. Over 100 videos per year. Perhaps 10 videos per month.
Zero released products.
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Well, to be fair, he said the server meshing team says its seems to work. But as always, trusting anything CIG say is a fool's game. Don't believe anything until you see it released.
So - around 1228 videos. That is 122.8 per year. Impressive. The year has 52 weeks, so more than 2 vids per week.
Done when done.
It’s real funny you used the image of small cargo vehicles that have DOORS to illustrate your point about sealed cargo containers!!!
it’s hilarious really…But don’t worry I get your point
You say the mustang is a sealed container, and that’s fine… in fact I can agree to that! but my point was that the system was made modular like a semi truck… you attach the cargo container to the driving unit. No need to walk inside the cargo grid or throw stuff in the cabin!!! you change the damn container completely and put one the suits your needs!!!
Is also funny that there are images of mustang alpha’s concept art with a cargo ramp, but they ended up adding what appear to be a cargo lift with a clamp (very clever)… that’s why I said it appears it was done to be compatible with Aurora’s Stor-All container.
How hard can it be for CIG 3D designers to come up with a structure that can be put in place of the current mustang’s container so it can act like a flat bed?
How hard can it be to add an interaction option to the mustang container so players can “magically” put the small box inside the container? you can call it “Cargo Loading T0”
Our game is NOT ready until it's ready
Of couse when it comes to customers actually paying for it NOW, we are absolutely ready to try to up-sell software that doesn't exist to everyone who clicks "play now" and chooses a starter package for our barely defined "alpha stage" software with this confusing additional ADD TO ORDER option...
Incidently, what rights do customers have if they "buy" this and the game is just hot garbage or they go beyond any kind of reasonable human expectation of when a product should be deliverable beyond a purchase date?
Few rights. If its really bad they could try a class-action, like has happened in the past.
But if it works and just pants, not really anything anyone can do. Would just be another lesson not to trust CR with your money.
Well, it's not hard - apart from the door stuff - but we actually want it physicalised so we need to place the cargo where we drop it. Which is a pain because of the glitches. And the door - of course. But it's more than in any other space game and I'm sure the fun is immense for the odd simple dude who is easily wowed. And an easy distraction from all the fraudulent behaviour and abusive marketing.
DUUUUUDE, I just ... OMG! I know why is called SQ 42! They run a VAT carousel on top! 2 times 21 = 42!
Hmm but I wonder, does the token "refund policy" they have in place only cover ownership of Star Citizen eg: if you own the main game for one month or whatever you have no rights to return SQ42 at any stage? Even though you have no way to play it or even ready a review until your refund period has exired on the main game.
Seems a bit scammy to refuse customer rights on two items being sold, especially when it's absolutly a seperate SKU when it suits them. It's very scammy to smuggle in an additional pre-purchase but dillute the customer rights on the purchase of the alpha.
In terms of CIG, anything after those five words requires years of development. Remember how long it took them to add a female skeleton? Believe me, you will know if they add it, because there will be a video, a press release, and both CIG and the main subreddit will be taking victory laps for weeks.
I'm sure you could easily debate it. Unless you're US consumer.
No date but functionalities : SM stabilized + few systems.
How many systems? Where are they drawing the line on that exactly? What definition/metric are they using for "SM stabilized"?
That's not really a defined end of a testing phase is it? It is in fact, the complete opposite of defined.
Don't let yourself get fooled around like that.
They haven't got the groundwork of the game done. Nor do they claim to have.
A good example is in fact: Server meshing. The Q&A said they might get 50 player shards working by the end of 2022.
(In, as you say, such a reduced and standardised form that it hardly deserves the grand term of 'Server Meshing'. But does bring into question whether the tech can ever support Chris's grander dreams of high player counts, an expansive seamless universe, and giant capital ship battles and the like. Kinda bringing us back full circle
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