Its basically the same stuff what many sim games have done for decades, just dressed up with a pretty name and Tony Z can bore people to death for hours talking about it at citizen con panels.
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Its basically the same stuff what many sim games have done for decades, just dressed up with a pretty name and Tony Z can bore people to death for hours talking about it at citizen con panels.
Ah, Tony Z, that man with great experience of developing such things...
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Last game developed in 1996.
26 years ago.
He might be crazy, but that's not what's needed, it needs someone with a good record of delivering things.
The guy has a lot to say about ED, and its clear that after many years of playing it the shine has worn off (check out his post history). I wonder how he will feel about SC in 7 years.
And that is a thing about a lot of these posts you keep making. Often from people fresh to SC after playing ED for many years. So for them its new and exciting. A good comparison would be to see how they are enjoying SC after an equivalent amount of time.
However, its not like the person you quoted is overall negative about ED, as shown by this post
What I did find funny was how they played the mile wide, inch deep card for ED but then turned it around and effectively said SC is a mile deep, inch wide. Which highlights the relative issues with both games.
However, their final statement "I have more to do in one system with Star Citizen than I do in an entire galaxy with Elite dangerous." I simply find laughable. Either they limited themselves in their activities badly when playing ED or they are just talking rubbish.
As a thank you for giving us lots of money, we are giving you this wonderful opportunity to give us more money! Aren't we awesome?!
Holy macaroni... check out the copium on this post
Yeah it's really strange that for many people bugs are basically "game breaking" in ED the moment FDEV releases a patch, but in SC bugs are something you have to work around, like part of the game...oops sorry alpha!
And yes I think bugs are to be expected in Alpha, but I also expect an Alpha to be almost free to play, at best a token amount like the FDEV alpha, after all you are doing the devs bug hunting for them.
Got someone over on YouTube at the moment deriding AAA publishers for selling buggy games in Early Access/beta while defending CIG for SC selling a buggy game in alpha (that is marketed at "playable now").
The fact that those EA/beta games are a whole lot more playable than SC currently is doesn't even factor for them. They've got a bad case of AAA publishers bad, CIG good.
Its already released and the BDSSE. People are having more fun in SC than any other games they've ever played in their long lives!
Get with the program!
And remember, its a pledge, not a purchase!
Aaahahahahahahahahahahahaha... good one.
How about "never" because shortly afterwards the cash flow will stop.
Learn these words: Development as a service.
It allows CIG to continue selling ships as pledges even when the game is effectively (and being marketed as) released.
ROFL. Yeah I suspect he's one of the main elements that fuel Chris' handwaving engine and how the Perfectionist come up with so much precise promises, release dates prediction.
You salivate about dreams Chris dreamed of thanks to Tony.
Both are made of the same wood: efficient at talking, bad at making things happen in an efficient way.
Would you rather buy a game that:
A. Is a buggy mess with missing features marketed as an Alpha
B. A released game with features done marketed as a released game
Now think about it, would CIG rather want to sell any Alpha forever or eventually progress to release. You say they want money? Well finishing the game up and releasing it will make them more than they ever have! And that doesn't mean stopping ship sales, if they want money that badly. The most logical step is progressing to a release! This conspiracy theory that "they're not aiming for a release, scam! scam! scam!" is utter horseshit.
Tony Z. has not delivered anything even relatively complex for the last 26 years. He tried in the meantime with a game that was supposed to have an open, dynamic world (we linked it here long ago) but it never found a publisher.
He definitely likes to create toy simulations but he has difficulty putting them in production.
But how can they make money when they have sold the game to people already?
This is the crux of peoples beef- CiG are happy to sell items, ships etc that don't exist for huge sums of money that either won't exist for years / at all / or are changed shortly after release. The longer dev takes the further down the spiral they go.
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I am probably missing something but the redditor author of that post seems to have created his account on 21 December 2021, no?
Because that's an Alpha. Lots of people stay away from Alphas because of bugs, missing features and so on, or because of the horrid reputation of "Haha, 10 years in development, might play it when it's done" attitude. (Which I can totally understand).
Yes, the more ships you make new pledges for to get money the more you'll need to develop. It sucks, but that's crowdfunding. It's a pledge anyway so you're not "buying" the ship. That's why Squadron 42 is their make or break release. They can NOT afford to have Squadron in a remotely buggy state. Because that is most likely gonna be their main source of revenue beside ship sales, which is to be seen if they stop that at some point.
Viajero
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What I mean is- the people who want SC have bought it. Unless it releases for consoles where there is new blood CiG are not going to make huge amounts from core sales of just the game alone.
And this why people view CiG as they do- its taken 10 years so far, and in that time we have effectively had a fun S42 like game in the shape of CoD Infinite Warfare (and several others) that CR could have done if he had not gone crazy.