Game Discussions Star Citizen Discussion Thread v12

Agony_Aunt

Agony_Aunt
Darkfyre99 said:
Pure Male Bovine Excrement.

Minecraft was in Alpha, and it was reviewed extensively. It was one of the reasons why I bought in at that stage of development.

Kerbal Space Program was in Alpha, and it was reviewed extensively. It was one of the reasons why I bought it at that stage of development.

Space Engineers, Valheim, Fortnight, Subnautica, the list goes on and on. If they're taking players money, then reviewing them should be fair game for journalists.

The only "playable Alpha" game I know of that insists that it's unfair to review the game (but paradoxically claims it is a playable game when taking your money) is Star Citizen. A continuously crowdfunded development project that despite not having delivered the game back in 2014 when they promised they would, not only continues to enrich the Roberts Clan through a despicable and duplicitous Hollywood Accounting shell company shuffle, but is now paying millions in dividends to those same individuals, in a particularly egregious and utterly unethical abuse of the crowd funding model.
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But but but... Star Citizen is spheshul!
 

ZeeWolf

ZeeWolf
LittleAnt said:
"Real games" never try to do what CIG is trying to do.
"Real games" shut off all risky features (the ones that takes forever to do and with an uncertain deliverability). When it's too complex, they cut and you get a game pretty similar to what exist on the market.
That's why we fund CIG, to let a company took these riks. And for now, I already love the result.

ED for exemple is a "real game" so there is very little chance that ship interiors will be added in the game.
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Well, I guess there's the rest of the "Non Risky real games" industry pushing everything from Unreal city technology stuff to Valve's VR stuff for Half Life Alyx and everything else from augmented reality to cloud AI to whatever block chain thing we're reading about today...

Then there's "risky" Star Citizen, using a ten year old engine stuck on single server instances that seems not to mention the stuff it boasted about in the past like VR and TOW and whatever this is and this.... and whatever this is

and this

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but only "real games" shut off risky features, as you say
 
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VR Mr Teatime

VR Mr Teatime
CMDR Reza Malin said:
I am the same. The whole idea just swept me along, and the ships are just amazing, no one can deny that. Especially as i love science fiction. Little did i know back in 2013 how real the term "science fiction" was going to prove for SC.

Back then though, backers had no idea it was going to take quite this long. They never said, you might see a slight return on your investment in 13 years. No promises. Thanks for the cash though/

Which is how it feels nowadays.
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I guess that's lending some credibility to the oft used adage "you don't understand game development" and for the vast majority of times it is used on game forums, could usually be applied to the accused and accuser.
FWIW I nearly dropped £300 on Star Citizen in 2013 due to YouTube videos from The Mighty Jingles and Jester814, but then confirmed CIG were using CryEngine and backed out of it rapidly...
 

Agony_Aunt

Agony_Aunt
StuartGT said:
https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/s3r5c0 Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/s3r5c0/i_need_some_honesty/
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Abusing the report button on comments and posts is against Reddit TOS. The report button isn’t a “super downvote” method and abusing it can get your account restricted or banned by Reddit’s admins.
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LOL, i guess some people didn't like the post asking about bugs and decided it was a troll :D

Ah, not the post, but the comments

A lot of comments in this thread are being reported over and over for a variety of nonsense reasons.
Felt the need to make a post to inform the community of this, as it seems to be people disagreeing with one another and using the “this is misinformation” report option to flood our mod queue with comments that don’t need action.
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Agony_Aunt

Agony_Aunt
Oh man, so many gold comments

I have been saying this for over 2-3 years. As soon as you have higher than 20-30 fps your experience gets 10 times better.
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:ROFLMAO:

If you run down stairs you’re more likely to die. If you jump into a black void elevator you will die. If you run down certain ship ramps before they are fully down you will die.
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The game is amazing when it isn't broken. If you can live with the bugs then go for it. The refunds sub are just a bunch of super big brains who are way smarterer than everyone else on the internet. When not defending the world from Chris Roberts they are probably debunking religion and the hyperloop. P
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If that was the case they would have moved on by now, but a lot of them will never ever give up the hate.
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:mad: 🔫🗡️

The rational response is to take your refund and move on with your life if you no longer wish to fund the project.
It is not creating a subreddit dedicated to it and then spending a portion of your life still following the game and attacking both the development and backers ad infinitum.
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By this logic, nobody should ever call out what they see as bad practices by companies. EA selling lootboxes? Don't complain about it, move on with your life. You see someone running a scam? Ignore it, move on with your life! Just whatever you do, don't bring it to the attention of others.

I'm pretty certain when that guy first posted about Fyre Festival being a scam, he was told by many people to to stop spreading FUD, to move on with his life or equivalent. Well, turned out he was right.

Uhh...yeah no. You're seriously implying that creating an entire subreddit dedicated to ragging on a game day in and day out for years is a rational response to said game still being under development?? In what bizarro world does this normally occur?
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A world where people speak out about shady business practices?

Quality comment in my opinion

Ohh my precious Karma.
Here we go:
A lot if not all starcitizen hate wounds are self inflicted.
CIG has set up unrealistic goals from day 1. Answer the call 2014, 2015, it was hard not to show sq42 progress, sq42 next year, sata ball, 3.0 by the end of the year, weeks not months, theathres of war, salvage, staggered development, more funding will expand development and speed it up - and im probably missing a ton.
All turned out to be in the words of CR - bulshit.
We have a small but very loud and very toxic part of this community that absolutely deserves the cult status name.
We have a ton of fake " I'm a ceo or I'm a project manager" comments that are just bat crazy.
We have people saying we'll cig needed to build an office first so real development didn't start until 2015.... I mean how did anyone at cig think that they could release a game with the original scope on 2014?!?
SC can be fun. It has potential. The idea is amazing.
The execution is terrible.
I think its safe to call it a buggy alpha demo that can be fun but to claim its anywhere near the level of polish of any other space sim is simply not true.
Elite has Odyssey issues and people are burned out with the whole mile wide inch deep thing, but right now sc is an inch wide and inch deep, with plans to make it a mile deep. The digging tech is still in development....
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Navigare Necesse Est

Navigare Necesse Est
Factabulous said:
I think they meant to say 'in a "normal game" localisation is one of the last things done'. Then again 'in a "normal game" server stability and game breaking bugs are addressed early' - this ain't no "normal game" - as LA keeps trying to tell us :)
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It is no normal game. Normal games arent made for frauding the crap out of gullible people. Well, some are. The cheap mobile and mtx cash grabs. Though I wouldn't call these "normal", but at least they made it to release fruition.
 
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