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What this news also means is probably that they're done trying to optimize Odyssey on PC.

Yeap, which also translates not only as we-dont-care-about-console players, but also as we-dont-care-about-pc-players either.

Lucky me, i'm not very fussed about frames-per-second and 30-45 fps are good enough for me. And i get those in a CZ on my RTX3080/16gb laptop 😇
 
Are you suggesting that there will be no future content updates after 11 for Odyssey?

Oh no, i do think they will move forward, but with little development assigned to engine improvement and optimizations.
The narrative will still go on - they're still looking to hire a game designer to keep the narrative and the events going

However, i do expect Arf to start commenting F1 races once the game is released and to get less involved into Elite.
 
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Are you suggesting that there will be no future content updates after 11 for Odyssey?

Its a bold suggestion, but one that should be easily provable/disprovable in the next few months.
I’m suggesting that Frontier have not announced anything beyond update 11 and that Odyssey was supposed to be the first expansion where all the content was delivered up front.

There is a possibility that Frontier are working on the next expansion to be delivered in 2 to 3 years, but next to nothing in the short term.
 
Are you suggesting that there will be no future content updates after 11 for Odyssey?

Its a bold suggestion, but one that should be easily provable/disprovable in the next few months.
Quote from OP (Original Post): "We need to be able to move forward with the story of the game, and in order for us to do this we need to focus on a single codebase."
I think that means beside FC interior we should expect more content coming and from sound of it, story wise content.
 
Quote from OP (Original Post): "We need to be able to move forward with the story of the game, and in order for us to do this we need to focus on a single codebase."
I think that means beside FC interior we should expect more content coming and from sound of it, story wise content.
Experience suggests that you should take Frontier predictions for future development with quite a pinch of salt.
 
Thanks for the update, but, you've been wrong before. You said consoles should be ready near the end of 2021. Why should we believe you now, about it not being continued? Sure, officially, but the moment one of your staff says "oh, I figured it out", it'll be money making time again. Your heads up just means we shouldn't expect it. That's ok, I never knew of or expected Holo-Me, but somehow that popped into the game flawlessly. My commander looked exactly like Mr Sammarco for the time that was allowed. That was fun...and of course axed!

What about the plan to switch everything to Odyssey and Horizons would being phased out? Is that still in the works, but only for PC now? So to go "hooning", I'd have to get the console game, if I only currently have ED for PC? Sounds like some missed money there, for sure.

But too busy continuing the story of ED to make the game work better? The real story of getting players hopes up, only to be dashed, or do you mean there is some fantasy in-game story absolutely noone has a clue is happening? Is there a link to some post or site that has the story, up to date? Or do we need to buy a book? For all I know, all commanders make their own stories in ED and make ED great. You're suggesting there's some huge part of your development team that is focussed on some unknown story, so much so they cant work on making something work? How about a low-poly version or one that uses modern visual stuff like clipping/culling artifcacts not in view. Anyways, 6 months of work, on a story noone sees? Do other companies or game makers have this luxury? I bet a lot of that time is actually 3 hour long lunch breaks. Im kidding a bit.

I like supporting ED, but I really dont like horse maneur. Admitting it wont be viable$$ on consoles, even if it was wokring perfectly, makes a lot more sense than this crap about a story taking presidence. "oh, sorry, cant have that on consoles, because we might not get the story right." Come up with something more real than that, is all.
 
of course the best way to attract new players is to dump a significant percentage of your existing player base with zero compensation when development gets a bit difficult😂!
A portion of the player base that has no hope of playing Odyssey after 10 months. People are fickle and within a few months will forget this and sing FDevs praises once more.
 
Experience suggests that you should take Frontier predictions for future development with quite a pinch of salt.
I always carry my salt shaker with me :p
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Sad to read this underwhelming but by all accounts expected message by Braben. No explanation, no nothing. Not even a proper goodbye. Just a middle finger. A truly full blown display of disrespecting customers. Prime specimen in the corporate textbook of how not to communicate.

I doubt console players will pick up and pay for a Frontier console title again after this stunt.

A note to the portion of the PC crowd that are now gloating doing funny I wee on your grave dances. Amusing, absolutely. But you're next, guys. Because this is not a successful company full of talented developers that can now "focus" on delivering a fantastic product. This is a struggling company in decline with poor communication skills, a weak leadership and a tanking share price. You think you've somehow cut the ballast and will now soar? Think again. There's no passion left at Frontier. Just a slow crawl to further decline.

Enjoy the ride.
 
Greetings Commanders,

Elite Dangerous is a game close to my heart.

It’s no secret that Odyssey’s launch was less than ideal, including the need to split the PC/console player base to focus on a PC-only launch. Since Odyssey’s release in May 2021, we have worked tirelessly to improve the Odyssey experience on PC, and whilst we have made great progress there is still more to be done. We have been supporting the pre-Odyssey and post-Odyssey codebases since.

Over the last several months, we have been wrestling with the best way to move forward, and it is with a heavy heart we have decided to cancel all console development. We need to be able to move forward with the story of the game, and in order for us to do this we need to focus on a single codebase. Elite Dangerous will continue on console as it is now together with critical updates, but we will focus on new content updates on PC on the post-Odyssey codebase.

We appreciate this news is not what our console community were hoping for. This was not an easy decision to make, but it was made with the long-term future of Elite Dangerous in mind.

Finally a good decision. Because of the adaptation to the console version, the development did not bloom properly. With the power of a PC, the game will really develop well. At least we all hope so. Now we have to think about console players, about a solution to recover console accounts for PC.
 
I believe that ED has the biggest team out of all their IPs. So that doesn't ring true.
I sincerely hope that ED has one of the smallest teams available for development, because, with all the bugs that creep into every patch, and which remain unfixed for a long time, if we have the biggest team, then the company is in trouble.

I'm talking about small bugs that can be overlooked in the light of "prioritization", like having to enter the FC market twice to sell commodities, the missing text in "Commit changes" button in Inventory, etc.

My PC is Ryzen 3900X,3800X RX580. My main account had been away exploring for over a month, with steady 90fps (limited in settings) in space, and 40-50 when disembarked. Beautiful graphics, very detailed. Yesterday I came back to a settlement, and I had a bitter smile: When my cmdr was facing away from the buildings, 40-50 fps. The simple act of facing the settlement was dropping my fps to the 30s. Facing a skimmer, down to 25. Back to facing the horizon, 50s. It was reproducible.

My personal belief is that there is something fundamentally wrong with the design of Odyssey, something that cost our console brethen their game.
 
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A portion of the player base that has no hope of playing Odyssey after 10 months. People are fickle and within a few months will forget this and sing FDevs praises once more.
No, I don’t think so.

Frontier are displaying a ‘can’t do’ attitude (can’t do VR, can’t do consoles, can’t do ship interiors, can’t do expansion launches) and the reputation hit is extending to investor confidence.
 
I'm a PC player, saddened to see so much PS players in the same squadron i am, deleting the accounts right now.
I'm not fully agreeing with their sentiment but i can understand them.

For the players that are asking for account transfer, i've found a reddit post that i think it could be damn right:
they also have licensing restrictions. To get on Xbox and Playstation they had to agree to restrictions on how much interaction players can have on other platforms. Both Sony and Microsoft wanted barriers so that players would be tied to them. If you migrate from console to PC, Frontier will only give you the credit value of all your ships and mats. There’s no extreme technical limitation, only a legal one.

Sorry mates.
 
The development on consoles drags down this fantastic game with a very big potential. That consoles can't handle anymore. Buy a STEAMDECK and plug it into your TV in your living room.


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You're now at the bargaining stage of grief.

You're just going to have to move into acceptance sooner or later. Its done on consoles. Either keep playing what is there or stop.

Same will happen to PC one day as well. We don't know when that will be. We have people in this thread predicting FD will stop development on PC soon and others predicting this now means good things for ED's future.

But in reality, nobody knows.

Go back to 2014 and i think many expected the game wouldn't be supported for more than 10 years with updates, and it isn't far off 10 years now.
That's the 'Dangerous' part in Elite Dangerous, you never know when the rug is going to be pulled from under us.
 

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The development on consoles drags down this fantastic game with a very big potential. That consoles can't handle anymore. Buy a STEAMDECK and plug it into your TV in your living room.


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That doesn't sound like a good idea. I doubt fdev will continue with performance optimizations, no need for that now with consoles out of the way. People already tried Odyssey on the steam deck and runs kinda of well but on low settings and I don't see that changing anytime soon if ever
 
The development on consoles drags down this fantastic game with a very big potential. That consoles can't handle anymore. Buy a STEAMDECK and plug it into your TV in your living room.


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This has to be one of the worst takes I've seen on here so far. You think a STEAMDECK can out perform this game when compared to a series x or ps5? You're pretty deluded if you think a handheld only capable of 720p to maintain playable framerates is somehow more capable than current gen consoles (costing $500) that even the PC master race can't replicate all capabilities in a 1 to 1, feature for feature comparison for less than a grand.

Might need to re-educate yourself on that one.

Keep in mind, I have a Ryzen 7 5800x, liquid cooled of course, 64gb of trident memory, an evga rtx 3080, 4tb of nvme storage, another 2tb of hard disk storage, All mated on an X570 Asus Strix motherboard.. A 1000w evga modular psu, an elgato pcie capture card and all that is wrapped up beautifully in a CM 500m Mid tower case. I play on both PC and console, I am lucky to have both available to me. Most of my friends on xbox however do not. So even tho I have a machine perfectly capable of chewing up EDO and spitting it out at a comfy frame rate. I'm not gonna put in the effort. Not without my brethren, not without my current progress, without these things it just isn't happening.
 
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So what is the realistic expectation on what this actually means for the PC version ?

What the statement says is that consoles were dropped to be able to further the "story" (huh ? ED has a story ?! On which planet is that hidden - Raxxla, I suppose ? One in 400 billion chance to ever experience the story...).

My fear obviously is that after dropping Mac, then VR, now console support, this just means that FDev is reducing the investment, the dev team more and more, and will be trying to milk Odyssey on PC with cosmetics sales etc. for a couple of years before eventually ceasing all efforts and eventually shutting servers down. So I do not even expect any further paid DLC/season to come along.

Does anybody believe that this actually will pan out differently, more positively ?
 
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