Please don't be boring.
This is not just an aesthetic change. Currently, we have to zoom in very closely to get a better view of the entire aviary. To get an overview (zoom out), we left the dome very quickly. The overall view of the place is BAD. The proper size (height) would be the JWE1 Aviary, but the current ones are too low.
And let the eventual update of the aviary be in Frontier's hands. Don't be a fool thinking mods would solve everything. There are console gamers around here too. I agreed with the Lagoon problem, but don't be stupid thinking that what others see is not a problem, it's only what you see.
The Lagoon they will adjust and improve. The Aviary feature I'm not sure. So let me ask for this improvement in peace.
It is 100% an aesthetic change, honestly, in what reality is this anything but done for said reasons. Hop into First-Person View and you'll see there is still verticality within the Aviaries enough for a Quetzal to walk around in. You can run tour vehicles through the Aviary which lets you see things up close and personal to get a better view of the interior of the Aviary. Everything you described and I corroborated confirm its for aesthetic purposes. Functionally the Aviary is working as intended, it could use some tweaks for quality purposes, sure, but let's not exaggerate that this is some wild problem needed immediate rectification.
Mods would easily be able to solve a mundane issue as small as Aviary height, they've already done things more aggressive than something of this nature. Unfortunately for console players we already see the same game across multiple platforms are not equal. RTS & park simulators as examples will by their very nature handle better with a mouse and keyboard, we are already seeing hardware limitations on top of this with last gen consoles performance suffering badly, there comes a point where we start to sacrifice content for the sake of consoles. We also don't know how much support JWE2 will receive, and I would rather Frontier bring Lagoons up to par before we refine Aviaries too much which could get away with things even if support ended tomorrow.
1 - Only the Quetzal IN YOUR OPINION. That's not to say that I - and others - don't think all summits deserve to be taller. I don't just pose the problem regarding the size of the creature, but the gameplay. In the current format, there is no vertical use of any space. The noise of leaving the dome and entering the dome is constant. It even seems poorly thought out.
2 - The current aviary, to be well visualized, must be seen from the side, almost horizontally. If you put the view a little more vertically, you're already out of your range. It's a BAD view, without much freedom to watch freely. You don't see the problem, but I do. On Reddit other people are already asking for an update on this too.
3 - The Aviary is getting more decorations, yes. And we hope get even more. The environment deserves it.
4 - The lakes are dead and bland. I'm sure they will improve it. Maybe even a Marine DLC will come out someday. But there are things there that are impossible to do, after all, it is a saltwater marine environment. It would obviously be a cleaner place.
I'm not saying that the aviary problem is bigger than the lagoon problem, but that needs to be improved as well. As for you, you want to disregard an argument of mine and only consider a flaw in the game that you perceive. How about rooting for Frontier to work on both?
1 - As it is your opinion that this is some critical game breaking issue that Frontier needs to drop everything else to fix. Name what sort of major benefit would be created by increasing the height of the Aviary immediately? You then describe noise which could be ambient noise or a minor technical or creative choice, not clear what noise you are referring to; however, that still isn't conveying much of the benefits of prioritization of more verticality. Now if you proposed some gameplay interaction only possible with a taller Aviary we can go somewhere, but it must be substantiated.
2 - I will concede the views do need refining and aren't ideal, they are a little stiff and the angles not ideal
3 - Rock pillars would be my next bet for more naturalist environments now that we have the verticality of the perches and standard perchable rocks. Frontier can probably just reuse code, so I think this is a relatively simple thing to add allowing for more varied customization options.
4 - This is kind of what I was getting at the whole time, the Aviaries aren't ideal but they are incredibly close to where they need to be, the Lagoon is a mile from where it needs to be. Given the state lagoons are currently in and the built-in limitations marine reptiles face compared to pterosaurs, I'd consider the Lagoon an immediate higher priority because the Aviary is already going to get the aforementioned support. The Lagoon's future is uncertain and if it has to wait too much longer even when it gets something done to it, it could be in a very unfinished state that needs multiple Updates to rectify with no promises Frontier will support the game long enough to get Lagoons to where they need to be.
I direct you back to my thread on the subject of aquatic flora, I proposed a desalination plant that would provide a pseudo-logical excuse to mix and match fresh and salt water lifeforms for the sake of customization and reptile interactivity.
You have been arguing with me about simple aesthetic changes
(views fall into this category) for a while now then completely disregard when I first mentioned the state of Lagoons. I could just as easily argue the opposite that those focusing so much on the Aviary are completely disregarding the state of the Lagoon because they want the Aviary to be in a perfect state before even acknowledging the need of the latter. I am not interested in engaging in such a petty argument, and if you think the Lagoon's state is a perception of my own imagination then you are being flagrantly disingenuous.
You immediately jumped to conclusions and accused me of shooting down Aviary improvements despite my acknowledging the need for them from the very first post while you continued to reiterate the importance of aesthetic changes. I expressed my thoughts on the state of Lagoons in comparison to the current state of Aviaries as marine reptiles have zero guest interaction and no possibility of escape, they are inherently less capable while Lagoons lack any customization options whatsoever. That is the pervading difference, Lagoons are in far greater need of attention. For all their issues, it appears some technical issues
(marine reptiles have them too) and aesthetic ones are what face the Aviary leaving them in a relatively good state by only needing more minor improvements.
If you wish to continue arguing, then I consider this discussion as resolved with an agree to disagree.
