General / Off-Topic Sci-fi anything

Precisely. Even though Star Trek: TNG was a great series in its time, it turned me off the "planet of the week" formula.

Yeah, I don't mind a series running to a formula sometimes, but it does get ridiculous when they just rehash the same ideas over and over. When they do that, you know it's time they finished. The logic in some Star Trek episodes was poor, but when it was at its best, it was unbeatable. I think I remember that episode you mentioned, there were one or two that were very similar if I recall, and the transporter did seem to cure a lot of stuff. These days a lot more is expected from a series.
 
Still, it was one of the few series that has ever brought tears to my eyes during the final episode. The only other sci-fi series that managed the same was B5.

B5 is under-rated now in the history of how television developed, it started the arc fad and is still possibly the only series that ever pulled it off effectively because from the outset it had a plan. BSG did it well (and better) but it's obvious they didn't actually have a plan, just an idea.
 
The new BSG kind of suggested that the greatest achievement of mankind was Jimi Hendrix's version of All Along The Watchtower. Who can argue with that?

BSG is one of those rare cases where the remake being better than the original.
 
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Minti2

Deadly, But very fluffy...
B5 is under-rated now in the history of how television developed, it started the arc fad and is still possibly the only series that ever pulled it off effectively because from the outset it had a plan.

Ive been waiting along time for them to release B5 in Blue-ray, but unfortunately i don't think there's any plans of yet...

Am the same as some others, in that there was a real sadness to see it end. I still choke up near the end of Babylon 5: In the Beginning film, where the Minbari are about to attack Earth.
All the remaining human pilots are asked to man the line and most likely die, while giving time for as much of the population as possible to escape from earth.
A real space Opera!
 
I missed the first run of B5 and because I only caught the odd show I didn't realise that there was one big story arc, when it came on again I caught it from EP1 and from there was hooked, got them all now on DVD but will say that season 5 was a let down with the telepath war,
 
I caught it from EP1 and from there was hooked, got them all now on DVD but will say that season 5 was a let down with the telepath war,
You probably know this by now, but the reason for that was that they thought that season 4 was going to be the last one and rushed the main plot through by the end of it. All they had left for the last season were the side stories that had been meant to fill out the main story. The very last episode of the whole series was actually filmed as the last episode of season 4. They only delayed it when they finally learned that they'd have another season.
 
Anyone used to watch Dark skies? Was a TV show in the mid 90's and kind of an x files rip off. They used real incidents and ufo references such as Roswell, operation bluebook etc... and made a shady government trying to cover up the impending alien invasion.

Another underrated 90's show I loved and was upset they scrapped after 1 season was Space above and beyond

I have been rewatching both these shows using online Tv show streaming sites
 
I watched the latter of those series when it came out years and years ago. It was not bad (iirc) and it was a pity that it was cancelled after the first season.
 
I am a real SciFi geek.

Nearly all of my DVD's are SciFi - the rest are Fantasy.

Over 800 books, with the majority SciFi.

I read SciFi, I write SciFi, I breath SciFi (almost :D) and I can't believe that nobody has mentioned Doctor Who. :S :eek:
 
I am a real SciFi geek.

Nearly all of my DVD's are SciFi - the rest are Fantasy.

Over 800 books, with the majority SciFi.

I read SciFi, I write SciFi, I breath SciFi (almost :D) and I can't believe that nobody has mentioned Doctor Who. :S :eek:

the thread was only created yesterday, Im sure the Doctor will have his moment:D
 
here is a question,

would you consider the lord of the rings and everything in middle earth a science fiction?

I mean middle earth isn't set on the planet earth so it must be on another planet or in a parallel dimension and as its on another planet/ dimension surly that makes it a science fiction?
 
would you consider the lord of the rings and everything in middle earth a science fiction?
No, it is fantasy. If you include LotR to sci-fi, you'll have to include _a lot_ of fantasy fiction as well, since they are all set in their own fantasy worlds that have _nothing_ to do with science. _Science_ fiction should have something to do with science, after all. Science fiction should look at science, try to think where it is going, what sorts of things we are going to discover and then make _fiction_ about how those discoveries will affect the human nature.

In this sense, you'll be hard pressed to include Star Wars to sci-fi and it begins to resemble fantasy. You'll find a lot of arguments about this on the 'net...

I think the more interesting arguments can be had about the line between hard SF and sci-fi...
 
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Doctor Who?! :S
I could say that phrase for real. I've never watched the series. My sister's been telling me to give it a chance and perhaps one day I will. From what I've understood, however, it seems that it also lacks a proper storyline and is mostly consisted of "story of the week" kind of things.
 
In this sense, you'll be hard pressed to include Star Wars to sci-fi and it begins to resemble fantasy. You'll find a lot of arguments about this on the 'net...

I definitely consider Star Wars fantasy. It has a Dark Lord (Vader), magic swords (lightsabers), wizards (Jedi) and a plethora of fantasy races and monsters (ewoks, wookies, sarlaks, rancors). I can't look at that and say it's scifi with a straight face.
 
From what I've understood, however, it seems that it also lacks a proper storyline and is mostly consisted of "story of the week" kind of things.

Doctor Who can seem that way, especially if you only watch the odd episode here and there. There have always been some sorts of over-arching plot threads though, such as the entire Third Doctor's episode run where he was trying to work out his exile on Earth by the Time Lords, the Key to Time episodes of the Fourth Doctor's run, also the E-space story arc, the Trial of a Time Lord arc of the Sixth Doctor, even when the series got axed in 1989 there were plans to add more backstory which suggested that The Doctor was the mysterious third person, "The Other", who founded Time Lord society along with Rassilon and Omega...

More currently, every series made in the "Modern" run has had some climactic end episode with every preceding episode in that series adding foreboding for those careful enough to pay attention - Starting with the "Bad Wolf" references. I have to say I like Stephen Moffat's style over Russell T Davies, because he's not above taking things that we're used to in the real world and turning them into things to fear, and because he's not above creating a main character who you eventually discover (after several years) has the sole and specific purpose to give a massive plot twist to another character you probably thought was incidental.
 
I mean middle earth isn't set on the planet earth so it must be on another planet or in a parallel dimension and as its on another planet/ dimension surly that makes it a science fiction?

Tolkien always considered his fantasy epic to be a legendarium of our planet. The stories are set in north-west europe. If you read the history of middle-earth this become very clear. The original idea of the island home of the elves was that it eventually became Britain (though this idea was abandoned).
 
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