Game Bashing On Steam

I guess English isn't your first language? Don't worry, it isn't mine either. Apparently you didn't understand a thing I said.
Lots of people give it a bad review for nonsensical reasons like no VR support, no ship interiors, FPS instead of full atmospheric planets, etc. Nothing of that was ever announced to be part of Odyssey, so these people aren't reviewing the game, they are just complaining that they don't get what they want. That reminds me of my 4 years old daughter by the way.

What proportion of those 6000 negative steam reviews do you think are a result of these factors?

Lots of other people are giving it a bad review because they don't like or are disappointed of the company rather than the game. They are reviewing the poor launch, console support, broken promises, etc. They can hate Frontier as much as they want, it's completely unrelated to the quality of the game.

What proportion of those 6000 negative steam reviews do you think are a result of these factors?

Many people gave it a bad review for the bad performance and issues at launch / the first few months, without changing it after many problems were fixed.

Here are a couple of games that started with negative reviews and have recovered.

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What makes EDO reviewers so different than Cyberpunk and NMS reviewers?

Why wouldn't EDO reviewers change their reviews?

Isn't it more likely the Odyssey expansion still doesn't offer good value for the $?
 
Lots of people give it a bad review for nonsensical reasons like no VR support, no ship interiors, FPS instead of full atmospheric planets, etc. Nothing of that was ever announced to be part of Odyssey, so these people aren't reviewing the game, they are just complaining that they don't get what they want. That reminds me of my 4 years old daughter by the way.

What proportion of those 6000 negative steam reviews do you think are a result of these factors?

Lots of other people are giving it a bad review because they don't like or are disappointed of the company rather than the game. They are reviewing the poor launch, console support, broken promises, etc. They can hate Frontier as much as they want, it's completely unrelated to the quality of the game.

What proportion of those 6000 negative steam reviews do you think are a result of these factors?

Many people gave it a bad review for the bad performance and issues at launch / the first few months, without changing it after many problems were fixed.

Here are a couple of games that started with negative reviews and have recovered.

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What makes EDO reviewers so different than Cyberpunk and NMS reviewers?

Why wouldn't EDO reviewers change their reviews?

Isn't it more likely the Odyssey expansion still doesn't offer good value for the $?
Cp 77 started at positive review actually^^

But yes, NMS started very rough.

The outcry was massively on social medias and faked on "gaming" website because it was generating clicks.


Do you know the difference between EDO and NMS though ? They worked super hard and have been providing non stop free content. For 6 years.
We have a bit better FPS and a long list of cut stuff since launch.
 
Do you know the difference between EDO and NMS though ? They worked super hard and have been providing non stop free content. For 6 years.
We have a bit better FPS and a long list of cut stuff since launch.
The irony is that No Mans Sky actually feels like a game that software developer and dreamer David Braben would write. To quote Mr. Spock speaking to Admiral Kirk CEO Braben, "If I may be so bold, it was a mistake for you to accept promotion. Commanding a starship Developing software is your first, best destiny; anything else is a waste of material."
 
I have over 5000 hrs in the game, I like it.
Would I recommend the game? Absolutely.
Do I get frustrated at times? Sure do!
Will I keep playing? Yep!
Really don't understand all the negative reviews, unless they are among the group of people who insist on instant gratification. Anytime you have upgrades to any kind of program, you are going to have bugs. That's just the nature of the beast. No programming is perfect. Every game is buggy when there is an update, it just seems like the Elite Dangerous community has more than their fair share of people that insist on perfection every time, that is not possible.

There are some tedious and tiring aspects of the game but overall, it's an enjoyable game with many different challenges within the game. It seems that there are some who believe that they should reach the top tier within a very short time. No.
Some, but not all, of the negative reviews seem to come from people who are used to getting their way and when they don't, they resort to belligerent and nasty posting.

Try the game, if you don't like it, get a refund and quit playing.
There are several games that I've played, didn't like, and quit playing. Didn't bash the programmers or the company that owns the games. I simply quit playing.

If you play the game through steam and like the game, go to steam and post your review.

I also noticed that there are quite a few in these forums that like bashing the game, the programmers and Frontier, seems like they spend more time in the forum bashing than they do playing. I'm not talking about the people that post legitimate questions or gripes. We all have some gripes, that's different from bashing.
You're telling me that even though you enjoy the game, others don't and/or wouldn't recommend it to others? Man, that really is unusual. Could try contacting Steam support, maybe it's some sort of error in their system.
 
Lots of people give it a bad review for nonsensical reasons like no VR support, no ship interiors, FPS instead of full atmospheric planets, etc. Nothing of that was ever announced to be part of Odyssey, so these people aren't reviewing the game, they are just complaining that they don't get what they want. That reminds me of my 4 years old daughter by the way.

What proportion of those 6000 negative steam reviews do you think are a result of these factors?

Lots of other people are giving it a bad review because they don't like or are disappointed of the company rather than the game. They are reviewing the poor launch, console support, broken promises, etc. They can hate Frontier as much as they want, it's completely unrelated to the quality of the game.

What proportion of those 6000 negative steam reviews do you think are a result of these factors?

Many people gave it a bad review for the bad performance and issues at launch / the first few months, without changing it after many problems were fixed.

Here are a couple of games that started with negative reviews and have recovered.

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What makes EDO reviewers so different than Cyberpunk and NMS reviewers?

Why wouldn't EDO reviewers change their reviews?

Isn't it more likely the Odyssey expansion still doesn't offer good value for the $?
Again, read what I said and not what you think I said. At some point you completely misinterpreted my post. There is not much point in talking to you as long as you don't realise that you interpreting it wrong.

You are making up random nonsense about me (like claiming that I said or implied 6000 people bought it just to leave a bad review). Nowhere did I say anything like it. In fact, I said that the current 'mixed' state of reviews is pretty much justified because of the bad current state and shortcomings of the game. I don't think you are doing this because you are a bad person or not intelligent enough, I guess you just completely misunderstood what I said. Now it's your turn to realise that as well. Until then, I am not going to argue about points I didn't make. 🤷‍♂️
 
My review was made in 2016.
Points such as:
  • Communication by devs.
  • Bug fixing.
  • Deadlines.
  • Productivity of new content.
  • Cash Shop & and cosmetics in a full game.
  • Beta tester strategy.
  • Game design & grind.
  • Sound design.
  • Use of external websites for information.
Added some extra points when legs came out. (2021)

But i think the points from back then is still good 2day.

Will i change it anytime soon?. not likely.
 
My review was made in 2016.
Points such as:
  • Communication by devs.
  • Bug fixing.
  • Deadlines.
  • Productivity of new content.
  • Cash Shop & and cosmetics in a full game.
  • Beta tester strategy.
  • Game design & grind.
  • Sound design.
  • Use of external websites for information.
Added some extra points when legs came out. (2021)

But i think the points from back then is still good 2day.

Will i change it anytime soon?. not likely.
Is it positive or negative though? :unsure:
 
Been playing since first beta as a supporter even pre-ordered Odyssey because I had faith and wanted as usual to support FD but the whole launch of Odyssey by FD was a fabricated lie to profit for stock holders and the original supporters like I am turned out to mean nothing to FD anymore, and that was the message that I received from FD and I haven't played the game since as a direct result. I appreciate FD patching the crap out of what was sold as a finished product to begin with, but personally I still feel FD treated us all like 'rubes' selling us Odyssey in the sad original state it was in and now I sadly believe ED is heading toward game maintenance mode, and this may be be happening a lot sooner than later at ED's current slide rate.
 
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Btw, EDO just passed in Steam the 50% rating for the "Recent Reviews", and it´s "just" 6% short to go from "mostly negative" to "mixed" for its "all reviews". EDO´s rating has been gradually raising since the initial post launch lows that got it close to 25% at the time.
It's 49% atm though oddly enough it's rated as mixed.
 
Lots of people give it a bad review for nonsensical reasons like no VR support, no ship interiors, FPS instead of full atmospheric planets, etc. Nothing of that was ever announced to be part of Odyssey, so these people aren't reviewing the game, they are just complaining that they don't get what they want. That reminds me of my 4 years old daughter by the way.
It's OK to review a product for what it doesn't have, it's very common in fact.
 
Not being != Not having.
Sigh. So how about a FPS game not having strategy gameplay. 🤦‍♂️

I guess the argument makes sense when you talk about features that you would expect in the expansion. Like thargoid on foot combat not being there (yet?). That's a missing feature in my opinion.
That the expansion doesn't have VR support is something everyone knew. So if you bought the game knowing there is no VR support, it's kind of stupid to tell people they shouldn't buy the game because it doesn't have VR support. Why did you buy it in the first place?

"I can't recommend the game because it is like it was advertised" just isn't a compelling argument in my opinion.

Of course it's a fair point when you add it in a list of shortcomings, like "the game does this bad, and that is bad and I don't like it. But I could ignore all that if it had something awesome that I never expected". So I guess in that situation it kinda makes sense, but it would still be a silly point.

PS
Or, if you are more into car analogies (I've been told every stupid argument needs them), how about:

I bought that car and it didn't come with tires.
Well, OK. That's a fair point.

I bought that car and it can't fly.
🤷‍♂️
 
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