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ZeeWolf

ZeeWolf
I don't see what relevance calling it a "game" or not has?

You can make a program into a game just by taking some interaction from a user and responding with some output and its a "game" in two lines of code..

Children play with dogs mess, they might think it's a toy, but I wouldn't call Mothercare and insist that they give me half a billion dollars to stock it as a product.

When CIG remove "Alpha" and send out review copies it's an entertainment product by the standards Roberts suggested when he first started collecting cash right?
 
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GuruNot

GuruNot
GuruNot said:
A bit of a spike in funding over the last two days, should clear $450 Million (as reported by tracker) this weekend.
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Well it didnt take the weekend ....
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Surefoot

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ZeeWolf said:
I don't see what relevance calling it a "game" or not has?
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Not much really, I think it started with some cultist claiming it was better than any other game on the market, which brings the comparison with proper released games, which of course clearly puts a projector on SC many shortcomings, so cultists will defend with "ITS ALPHA" which implies then it's not yet a game per se so we cannot compare on fair terms, and here we go... happy little circular argument.
 

VR Golgot

VR Golgot
Mole HD said:
Sleut is right though...very few of the persistent arguments against SC's marketing or Ci¬G's business practises have any relevance as to whether Star Citizen is a 'game' or not...nor do the counter pro arguments insisting it's 'an alpha'.
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He’s right that it’s a buggy pre-alpha game that people play.

But that doesn’t mean absurd comparisons with launched titles (such as Ant’s) suddenly get a free pass. Why should they?

And it doesn’t make the concierge guy above irrelevant. (People who’ve put in $1000s but don’t feel they’ve received the game that they paid for. More a backdrop for ship purchases instead, with an absence of promised gaming staples…)

Marketing and fan misrepresentations are eternally entwined with the 'state of the game' ;)
 

varonica

varonica
ZeeWolf said:
I don't see what relevance calling it a "game" or not has?

You can make a program into a game just by taking some interaction from a user and responding with some output and its a "game" in two lines of code..

Children play with dogs mess, they might think it's a toy, but I wouldn't call Mothercare and insist that they give me half a billion dollars to stock it as a product.

When CIG remove "Alpha" and send out review copies it's an entertainment product by the standards Roberts suggested when he first started collecting cash right?
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Sure you can, but if you don't let game reviewers whose business it is to review games, actually review it, then is it really a game? Because if it is really a game you should be fine letting it be reviewed. I am fine with it being a test environment for testing game play and bugs, and if people want to call that a game fine, but you know, it's still just an Alpha test environment.
 

VR Mr Teatime

VR Mr Teatime
LittleAnt said:
But you can review and critic the alpha as you want. It's just stupid. Like telling a cook that his cake is ugly when he has not yet unmolded his cake or that a slab is not very solid while the mason is pouring fresh concrete.

If we take all the criticisms made on the flight model, power triangle or the inventory system of 2019, they are good to throw in the garbage.
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What would you say to the cake baker who you catch using the ingredients for haggis to make his cake with, whilst asking his customers for cash before he's even got a mixing bowl out?
 

Mole HD

Mole HD
VR Golgot said:
He’s right that it’s a buggy pre-alpha game that people play.

But that doesn’t mean absurd comparisons with launched titles (such as Ant’s) suddenly get a free pass. Why should they?

And it doesn’t make the concierge guy above irrelevant. (People who’ve put in $1000s but don’t feel they’ve received the game that they paid for. More a backdrop for ship purchases instead, with an absence of promised gaming staples…)

Marketing and fan misrepresentations are eternally entwined with the 'state of the game' ;)
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I'm not arguing those points...but it's still a game ;)

Concierge, $50k whale or $45 backer...none of us have received the game or games we reportedly paid for. Whether or not someone has spent thousands of bucks on the project or not is entirely irrelevant...that's beside the fact all of us who have spent on the project should have known from the beginning that anything we've spent was supposedly to support the development process (a convenient untruth fostered by Clan Roberts and their marketing mafia of course) not buying a game. If anyone ever thought they were paying for an early access game like in a Steam purchase (per se)...their spending habits should still be controlled by their parents :)
 
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ZeeWolf

ZeeWolf
varonica said:
Sure you can, but if you don't let game reviewers whose business it is to review games, actually review it, then is it really a game? Because if it is really a game you should be fine letting it be reviewed. I am fine with it being a test environment for testing game play and bugs, and if people want to call that a game fine, but you know, it's still just an Alpha test environment.
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I present one game.
One billion dollars please..
 

Mole HD

Mole HD
StuartGT said:
https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/u4yiqr
Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/u4yiqr/nobody_across_servers_can_claim_ships_at_the/

https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/u4ytyf
Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/u4ytyf/3161_wtf_is_going_on_with_the_live_servers_ive/
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I've heard similar tales from a few folk. Bar firing up the 3.17 PTU for 10 minutes every now and then, I still haven't played since December...
 
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