I only put people on ignore when they're being abusive towards me, which is actually very rare and one or two of those ended up getting banned anyway. It's not healthy to live in a confirmation bias echo chamber.
ObsidianAnt: Frontier - What The HECK Is Going On With Elite Dangerous?
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Really? At least people talk back here. Beats youtube comments. The only thing that bugs me is when people don't talk back. Ie, they just post pictures or randomly stop talking about the game and start attacking people.
I'm finding that important thing is knowing where and when to engage. Piling on to a stupid post may be cathartic, but does leave one open to accusations of bullying or trolling. On the other hand only posting to provide helpful advice tends to provide slim pickings round here. It seems a lot of posts these days are deliberate flame-bait.
I'm utterly offended at you not mentioning me among the contributors to a positive forum experience (pffft, Alec, what that guy ever did for the community anyway?). Welcome to my ignore list!
....lalalala can't hear you!
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Moderation on these forums is a big problem and the way it's done does not help FDev's cause at all. It gives the impression that FDev are not willing to take any criticism and that they operate by fear. Look pretty much anywhere and you will see a lot of complaints about moderation of the official channels. I've had stuff taken down for literally disagreeing with the mods, citing thou shalt not disagree with the mods. Probably ex-traffic wardens.
The other thing, not everyone will agree with Obsidian Ant but much of the time he is pragmatic and has a point, as in this case (in my opinion). And by slating OA here, all it does is enforce FDev's view that they are doing a really super job. Which in your opinion they might be. I certainly think the CM's have an impossible job and I wouldn't point any fingers at them. Communication is a big problem, but if they don't have anything to communicate, that's hardly their fault is it. But overall for a live service space SIM, I find it lacking in areas where I think it should excel (ship interiors, new ships, new SRV's, base building?). These are purely my view of course.
But remember the days pre-Odyssey when there were weekly Elite Dangerous streams by a multitude of content creators? All but gone. And that's because there's nothing to show. Apart from the Burrs, they've all had to diversify into other games, taking what focus Elite Dangerous did have, away.
Anyway I'll leave it there and look forward to either being banned or moderated
Have a lovely day folks.
The other thing, not everyone will agree with Obsidian Ant but much of the time he is pragmatic and has a point, as in this case (in my opinion). And by slating OA here, all it does is enforce FDev's view that they are doing a really super job. Which in your opinion they might be. I certainly think the CM's have an impossible job and I wouldn't point any fingers at them. Communication is a big problem, but if they don't have anything to communicate, that's hardly their fault is it. But overall for a live service space SIM, I find it lacking in areas where I think it should excel (ship interiors, new ships, new SRV's, base building?). These are purely my view of course.
But remember the days pre-Odyssey when there were weekly Elite Dangerous streams by a multitude of content creators? All but gone. And that's because there's nothing to show. Apart from the Burrs, they've all had to diversify into other games, taking what focus Elite Dangerous did have, away.
Anyway I'll leave it there and look forward to either being banned or moderated
Have a lovely day folks.
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Yea, because Frontier has never given bad news or let the community down before.
FDev's forum, their rules. Mods have a small amount of leeway, but on the whole I think they do a pretty good job under very trying circumstances. Best not to stray into discussion of mod decisions, though - as that one is against the rules. I know because I do have a strike for that.
...which you are welcome to share - even here. You don't get banned for criticising lack of communication from FDev. Otherwise this'd be a pretty quiet place.
That's the thing - if you're reporting news from a game then you're needing something to be going on to report on. The Buurs have done magnificently with the paucity of official content - revealing a true knack for making the most of what they're given.
Good luck, but I bet you 1 Opinion Poll this post is still available next week.Anyway I'll leave it there and look forward to either being banned or moderated
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A genuine question: Did they offer any explanation why their interaction with the community virtually stopped?
Even in this thread - which was mentioned on last night's stream - has had no comment from any of the CMs, which is odd.
Ahhh, but I do a lot of post-editing once my brain has caught up with my fingers!See? He can't even quote the right lad complimenting him!
A truly despicable being.
Makes me look good, but obviously make you look terrible.
Among the top five rules of literally any decently managed forum there is "moderators actions are not to be discussed or argued with on the public forum". There are PMs for that. Look pretty much anywhere and that's the rule you'll see, and for very specific reasons. Moderators can intervene in a thread as normal users, and as such be subjected to the exact same rules in case of violations/misconduct the moment another moderator steps in in a moderator role. Such decisions, whether you feel are right or wrong, can't be discussed further on that or any other public thread, but need to be discussed/settled privately with the moderation/administration teams. It's really not rocket science, it's how large, public forums have worked since they are a thing.
But hey, it's always amusing to see self-victims shouting froom rooftops "Woe is me, cens0rship!1!! Look how they are going to ban me for telling the truthz, any minute now!"
Happily, I think I tick all of those boxes!
Hmm… a sensible core of the post but wrapped in moderation-bait nonsense at either end?Moderation on these forums is a big problem and the way it's done does not help FDev's cause at all. It gives the impression that FDev are not willing to take any criticism and that they operate by fear. Look pretty much anywhere and you will see a lot of complaints about moderation of the official channels. I've had stuff taken down for literally disagreeing with the mods, citing thou shalt not disagree with the mods. Probably ex-traffic wardens.
The other thing, not everyone will agree with Obsidian Ant but much of the time he is pragmatic and has a point, as in this case (in my opinion). And by slating OA here, all it does is enforce FDev's view that they are doing a really super job. Which in your opinion they might be. I certainly think the CM's have an impossible job and I wouldn't point any fingers at them. Communication is a big problem, but if they don't have anything to communicate, that's hardly their fault is it. But overall for a live service space SIM, I find it lacking in areas where I think it should excel (ship interiors, new ships, new SRV's, base building?). These are purely my view of course.
But remember the days pre-Odyssey when there were weekly Elite Dangerous streams by a multitude of content creators? All but gone. And that's because there's nothing to show. Apart from the Burrs, they've all had to diversify into other games, taking what focus Elite Dangerous did have, away.
Anyway I'll leave it there and look forward to either being banned or moderated
Smells like an attempt to get the whole thing moderated in order to then claim that the moderation was for the sensible part. I’m calling foul here.
Debate? What debate? Most of what goes here is unperceptive groups of people repeating their opinions ad nauseam, in the utterly ridiculous belief that that everyone else isn't doing exactly the same thing.
Sounds like you're debating if there is any debating going on. Shall we continue this debate, or will that just be repeating an opinion?
Oh yes he is a liar because he talks about the elephant in the room, I get it
Not the case I can assure you. But yes on reflection it could look like that. Sort of click bait for mods. But not my intention.
The bit at the beginning is my genuine feeling that moderation is over zealous. I think it's designed to steer the narrative by removing anything that can remotely viewed as anti FDev. I'm not anti FDev BTW, I really want ED to reach it's potential. I love the game.
The bit at the end is my appalling attempt at humour... I failed.... sorry
The mods are really failing at that then.
Not really, you can criticise FDEV and the game as much as you want as long as you are not getting personal or insulting.
If you get moderated that's not because you criticised the game but because of the way you have been doing it. You also get moderated when you are insulting or baiting those who criticise (I know that by experience).
That's because the people who are doing something wrong aren't going to admit they've done something wrong. They would always blame others for their bad manners.
What a surprise.
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