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ObsidianAnt: Frontier - What The HECK Is Going On With Elite Dangerous?
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Guilty on both counts, M'lud... (baiting being my most common, naturally... I have enjoyed a couple of infractions for flaming also, all deserved, of course!)
That is a fair commentWhat a surprise.
I just can't help myself sometimes. I honestly do try. God I'm in bother again.
You won't find that in the rules, but it's a rule nonetheless. Wife's decisions are never to be discussed or argued with in public as well.
Ooo... I didn't know that, time to look for it!
Frontier allow plenty of criticism. What they've been cracking down on is abuse.
You can't argue publically about moderation, that's always been the case.
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stop noticing things...
You've done quite a bit of posting on what you consider to be a non-issue
I've ranted here for a long time. You don't get moderated for being critical. You get moderated for pushing limits language and behaviourwise. There is nothing I can complain about when it comes to moderation in general here.Not the case I can assure you. But yes on reflection it could look like that. Sort of click bait for mods. But not my intention.
The bit at the beginning is my genuine feeling that moderation is over zealous. I think it's designed to steer the narrative by removing anything that can remotely viewed as anti FDev. I'm not anti FDev BTW, I really want ED to reach it's potential. I love the game.
The bit at the end is my appalling attempt at humour... I failed.... sorry
That's why the ignore function can't be said to work, in my opinion. The solution to persistent abuse, I don't mind saying, is a ban, whether temporary or permanent, and then there's nothing to ignore. If a poster has to be put on ignore, then by definition, they are behaving in accordance with the forum rules. As tempting as it is to use ignore, I'm aware that I'd be cutting off my nose to spite my face, because any number over one would leave me wondering whose post it was, and I can't even rule out one person having a sensible point to make.
The question of when a ban is justifiable is a whole other debate, and sadly, not permissible, here.
But why not if you think it's not been fair?
Exactly. Even from a quick glance through recent threads, you can see plenty of highly critical discourse that has been left alone by the mods.
Not seeking to be abusive, but the phrase, Ignorance is bliss'. comes to mind?
Indeed! I encourage those who dislike my approach to posting in the forum to put me on ignore, it saves them reading something they may not wish to read!
Some do, more power to them
I am mildly shocked that you use me as a negative example in this.
First, you obviously didn't understand what I tried to say, I even told you that your interpretation is not what I meant. It appears like you can't accept that you don't understand something and therefore you are calling me crazy. Well I don't like that at all, but I guess there is nothing I can do to stop you.
What I can do is correcting the picture you are drawing.
Where am I extremely negative about criticism? In every post I made I pointed out that criticism is very much justified. In every post about OA I pointed out that I have nothing against him and that the attacks are stupid. What I didn't do was attacking an imagined bunch of white knights instead, I didn't participate in the mudslinging. That's not because I deny the existence of stupid people on the "positive side", it's because I am against the concept of sides in general. I don't think it helps in bringing people together, it's good if you want to insult each other though.
But I guess as long as I am not for you I am against you? That goes so far that @StuartGT feels the need to correct me about something by repeating what I just said, just with other words. Not because I was wrong, but because I implied that sometimes more than one view is valid.
Stuart of all the people, who was accused to be a white knight and follower of Saint Brebus more than anyone else on this forum...
You are accusing me of doing the very same thing I am actually fighting against. Which, by the way, was what I criticised in the original post that started this particular discussion so I guess we are full circle now and you are me.
So maybe the original poster was right? Not because of toxic positivity but because of people in general?
'That's not what I meant'.
Ring a bell?
You're drawing a completely different picture, not 'correcting' one. My posts to you were specifically about accusing a poster of saying the forums were 'it', and then saying you didn't. I did not ('I did naaat...') refer to your opinion about OA at all.
But you have illustrated a key principle of white knighting, on forums at least, of the absolute certainty that the knight's opinion is always correct, about everything, and the person disagreeing is always wrong, about everything, so even if that person didn't comment on something, it's safe to say they would have been wrong if they had.
You may say I am wrong about that, as well, but plenty of other posters have noticed the phenomenon (and I'm not singling you out), I'm sure.
But who would guard the guards?
Indeed! I encourage those who dislike my approach to posting in the forum to put me on ignore, it saves them reading something they may not wish to read!
Some do, more power to them
That's not quite the takeaway I was looking for, from that sentence...
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