Help me to make the best woodlands/temperate Animal Pack

My favorite and most wanted pack after a desert pack is an temperate pack. Up until the conservation pack i had a near perfect line up of 8, but now that the amur is in a slot opend up and i cant decide how to fill it.

But first, my Main reasons for wanting a woodlands pack:
- Rn, Europe and North America are very close to a satisfying point, where i would be okay with not recieving any more animals for them. I want this pack to cover all 4 missing major key species (from the biased view of an European and data from the EAZA) that would be needed that i would be okay with no more animals for these continents, atleast from their temperate areas.

- Oceania is extremly underrepresented, so species from the temperate Tasmania are very welcome

- Besides one, all of these are very common animals, especally in smaller european zoos

So with that said, the current line up of 6 us:

  • Red Fox (NA, Eurasia, North Africa, completing the 3 "main" Fox species, over 180 EAZA holdings)
  • Wild Boar (Eurasia, North Africa, largest and very visually distinct suid, over 410 EAZA holdings)
  • Red Deer (Eurasia, North Africa, large "normal" Deer with high status and importance in european culture, over 490 EAZA holdings)
  • Racoon (North America, Arboreal Charismatic Smaller Animal, 543 EAZA holdings)
  • Bennets Wallaby (Oceania, most common Marsupial in captivity, over 570 EAZA holdings)
  • Tasmanian Devil (Oceania, largest carnivorus marsupial aka small carnivore, 9 EAZA holdings)

Solid line up isnt it?
For the exhibit animal i dont care about the stag beetle would be cool.
But now for the 7. Habitat Animal.
Rn we got a mix of 3 Europe, 3 Asia, 2 North America, 2 Oceania, which is pretty good.
The only hole id like to fill is South America, but the only animal from temperate south america that actually appears in zoo collections is the pudu. Which is a deer, but we allready have a deer.
So unless somebody else finds a temperate south american animal thats present in zoos, they are out from the count.
Africas main temperate area are the atlas mountains, with 3 of the animals being present there, so id say they are good aswell.
The other priority would be non mammals, which in this case pretty much only refers to birds.
Also id like the last animal to not be europe/eurasia exclusive, as 4 animals from one regions feel like a regional pack with extras which isnt optimal.


To get started, some of the strongest candidates:

Tasmanian Wombat and Echidna:
Both have a small presence in zoos and Oceania really needs that representation. The question here would mainly be if we really want to double down on this being a europe, tasmania + racoon pack

American black bear:
This pack is missing a large carnivore and the semi arboreal american black bear is both unique and requested enough to fill that slot. 3, 3, 3, 2 for continents is a nice, even split , but arguing for something more uniqud then the ABB is more then understandable. Still a nice inclusion to round out the pack and fill zhe amur leopards niche

North American Porcupine:
Cute aboreal chubby rodents with a good zoo presence with over 53 EAZA holdings and propaply quite a few more in North america.
It somewhat threads the same niche as the racoon so its propaply one over the other, but i also wouldnt mind both as they are very different outside of both being round aboreal north american animals.

Skunks:
Skunks are cute, but we allready got 3 small carnivores in the pack, where it cant match the unique traits of any of them (Mr world wide, arboreal, marsupial).
Still would love to get them one day.

And now its bird time:

Turkey:
Charismatic ground bird with huge cultural importance. Both the wild and domestic versions are equally good picks.
Also imagine listening to them in game and their funny sounds.

Wester Capercaille:
The largest groose, spread across Eurasia. Very unique from all the birds and extension animals we have in game so far, filling a similar niche as the turkey.

White Stork:
Very common in zoos and important to european culture.
They would also double as an african wetlands animal, which would be nice for the less temperate enthusiasts in the community.

Pheasents:
Frontier where are the pheasents?
Most notably are the common pheasent for its large range and the golden pheasent for being the 15. Most common animal in the EAZA and an asia only range.

Grey Partridge:
A small ground bird, but still a good bit larger then quails. Their range spreads across Europe and Western Asia, aswell as invasive in the Great Plains of north america.
They have a Healthy zoo presence with over 80 EAZA holding and are quite unique, as they are least concern as a species but fighting with local extinction across large parts of their range.
Id love more small animals and this prariedog sized bird delivers while also being quite the surprise pick.


But what do you guys think?
What 7. Animal would you choose and why?
Would it be one of my suggestions or something completly different? Cant wait to hear and hopefully learn something about what we all value for the animal selection in the dlcs :)
 
Where's my wolverine?!?! Add it and you have exactly my perfect temperate pack.
The wolverine is in the skandiavian, russian, canadian taiga jail.
While it defenetly can be counted as a woodland creature, it really isnt a temperate but a taiga one.
It also fell under the too much northern eurasia umbrella and while really nice to have, i dont consider it a key species for either northern eurasia or north america, but ofcourse i totally understand that that is a subjective take and somebody else might see it as THE animal they need for such a section, i know thats the case for me and the chinese muntjak regarding east asia.
 
From what ive read they range many habitats from the cloud forests over scrubland to alpine grassland, but none of them really are of the temperate biome type.
Its overall very rare, with only the regions on the south end of chile being seen as what we consider a temperate climate.
 
What about the Kiwi?

Edit: From your suggested birds the Western Capercaillie would be a great addition and an iconic european bird representation. And I have to agree with some of the posts above. A temperate woodlands pack should somehow have a bear. I would be okay with American Black Bear with a Lot of its color variations.
Kiwis a really good idear, havent thought about that!
On the other hand the kiwi feels to versatile and popular of an animal.
It could easily headline a islands or nocturnal pack, while this would propaply be one of the last realistic shots for birds like the capercallie or the turkey.
But still a cool addition
 
I would love your pack, I agree 100% with all your choices. ❤️

For the 7th slot I would pick a bird. Though I prefer the stork, I would go with a turkey or pheasant as they are a new type of bird for the game. And both offer NA representation which balances the pack.
 
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The only hole id like to fill is South America, but the only animal from temperate south america that actually appears in zoo collections is the pudu. Which is a deer, but we allready have a deer.
So unless somebody else finds a temperate south american animal thats present in zoos, they are out from the count…..

Tasmanian Wombat and Echidna:
Both have a small presence in zoos and Oceania really needs that representation. The question here would mainly be if we really want to double down on this being a europe, tasmania + racoon pack

Guanaco would be a good SA option and wombats and echidnas are found much more widely than just Tasmania - temperate Australia includes a lot more than just Tasmania anyway though.
 
Where's my wolverine?!?! Add it and you have exactly my perfect temperate pack.
That's because wolverines would only have the 'Taiga' and 'Tundra' tags as they are primarily found in boreal forests and tundra. The only temperate regions they are regularly found in are montane and subalpine coniferous forest areas, which are also classified as 'Taiga' in the game. Their presence in broadleaf forests would be marginal and possibly only seasonal, given they are close to the boreal transition, therefore wouldn't warrant a 'Temperate' tag.
 
According to this map (from the Encyclopedia Britannica website), six continents have some sort of temperate forest; notable just how little of South America has it though - just the southernmost tip.

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So, choosing at least one animal from each continent, options could include:
1. Common raccoon or striped skunk - One or other of these would probably be my favoured option for a North American species
2. Yellow-throated marten - Although found in many different forests, most of its range corresponds with temperate woodland and so is my most-wanted option
3. Barbary macaque - Most animal packs have at least one close reskin; this would be my favourite such option, as it adds a new African monkey that is very common in zoos
4. Parma wallaby - A widespread macropod that is as different from the red kangaroo as it is possible to be (in terms of size, habitat, sociality etc.)
5. Eurasian wild boar - Would add an ungulate to the pack that occupies many biomes as occurs as a native species in Europe, Asia and North Africa
6. Eurasian red squirrel - A charismatic small mammal that works well in open-topped walkthrough exhibits and is fairly commonly-kept in British zoos
7. A pheasant - Any manner of species could work (golden, Lady Amherst's, copper and ring-necked spring to mind), but my favoured option is the Reeve's pheasant, with its bold colours, threatened status, extremely long tail feathers and regularity in captivity

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The exhibit species would be where I include a South American species. Darwin's frog occurs only within the temperate forests of southern Chile and is an endangered species. Currently only kept in Santiago Zoo in Chile and facilities in universities, there are plans to import them to Europe as a backup population (there were plans to do so in 2016 but a disease outbreak killed all the frogs before they could depart). They are also pretty fascinating in terms of their breeding cycle - the male swallows the eggs and broods the tadpoles in his throat; he spits them back out when they are fully-formed froglets.
 
notable just how little of South America has it though - just the southernmost tip.
That map appears to be very coarse grained, to the point it shows the adjacent steppe regions as forest. In reality temperate forests range as far north as Santiago, Chile. Here's a map with higher level of detail, that also let's you zoom in, similar to Google Maps:


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Edit: Another thing I've just noticed is, the Britannica map also classifies subtropical deciduous and Mediterranean sclerophyll forests as temperate (akin to the Köppen climate classification system), while the in-game classification considers them to be 'Tropical' and 'Grassland' respectively. Therefore Global 200's biome classification system is closer to the in-game system in that subtropical forests are grouped with tropical and Mediterranean forests are separate from temperate forests.
 
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What plants would you guys like to see added in/alongside a woodlands/temperate pack? Here's some trees that I think would be ideal (all of these images are taken from these species' wikipedia pages).
Silver Birch:
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Ginkgo Tree
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Eastern White Pine
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Red Maple Tree
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If anyone has any other ideas for plants in this pack, let me know!
The red Hazel! Also known as blood hazel, these trees/bushes are just very beautiful and unique in colloration. Id love to add another color to my template pallete
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I would also love a woodlands pack! I think it would do well to give Europe and North America some of the species that were missing from their respective packs.
I personally would add the Striped Skunk as the seventh habitat animal to this pack. Not only are they adorable and VERY common in zoos, they would be extremely interesting for average players with their colour variations and a possible interspecies bonus with the raccoons previously mentioned in your hypothetical pack. They are, in my opinion, one of the first species to come to mind when somebody says ‘woodland’, and would really make a pack like this seem complete.
 
  1. American Black Bear: Cool coat variations, and I think the pack needs a large carnivore. This would work very well for representing eastern North America. Also, I see it as filling a very different role in gameplay. This would be a cheaper grizzly that players might start out with and maybe breed a few interesting coats before they get the fancy, late game Spectacled or Sloth Bear. I hope they add all of the bear species eventually, but this is my personal favorite.
  2. Red Fox: Cool coat variations. I hope they add the silver melanistic, leucistic, and perhaps albino coat. There is also a lot of variety in their regular coats. I am not opposed to more foxes after this, but I think it is the most important missing one.
  3. Wild Boar: This is the first I would drop because I don't like pigs, but it would do a good job filling out Europe.
  4. Striped Skunk: These are kind of cool. I usually only see them at 3 AM. I helped rescue a baby one once. It was NOT a kitten. I always thought of racoons as either pests or an invasive species depending on where they were found. I had no idea they were so popular in Europe. If they have a lot of support and a true presence in zoos in other continents, I could accept them in place of the skunks, but I would hope the skunk would be moved to a nocturnal pack.
  5. Red Deer: The game needs a generic deer species, and I think this one would work. There are a few other species (Elk, Pere David's, etc.) that might fill this role, but this would solve the problem of signage for species that aren't present in the game. Again, it would help fill out Europe.
  6. Golden or other pheasant: A bird would be nice
  7. Echidna or Wallaby: I am hoping they'll do an Oceania animal pack at some point to deal with the missing marsupials and the 2 ratites. Putting one marsupial in this pack would be nice.
  8. Exhibit: Colorful snake or tree/wood frog. (I don't know a lot about these.)
 
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