Discovery Scanner - 15/08/2022

sallymorganmoore

Senior Community Manager : Elite Dangerous
Feel like I should once again say, following the continued posts in this thread burying my small voice below them, that we're working on a standalone follow up post which will hopefully address answers to concerns and responses to questions following the previous post on 4.0 moving forward.
Just need a little more time to get it as solid as possible for you, but it's in the works in good time prior to all of this rolling out.
 

CMDR Sheehy

CMDR Sheehy
Clockdistrict said:
If EDH 4.0 cannot instance with either EDH 3.8 or EDO 4.0 at all, then bringing 4.0 to EDH is just a waste of time and human resources, when Odyssey is still terribly unoptimised. All you get is just an SRV that is entirely useless, probably the same framerate issues as Odyssey, and just a pretty coat of paint on the game. Also as a Fuel Rat, this will make things a lot more complicated...
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It's likely the new features, like what is happening with the Proteus site and the Thargoids, that are needed. And it's far better optimised than it was at launch.
 

CMDR Sheehy

CMDR Sheehy
sallymorganmoore said:
Feel like I should once again say, following the continued posts in this thread burying my small voice below them, that we're working on a standalone follow up post which will hopefully address answers to concerns and responses to questions following the previous post on 4.0 moving forward.
Just need a little more time to get it as solid as possible for you, but it's in the works in good time prior to all of this rolling out.
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Ah... Ssh then! 🤐
 

AtomicJuggler

AtomicJuggler
Obsidian Ant said:
No one from Frontier has confirmed if Horizons 4.0 and Odyssey 4.0 players being unable to instance together is related to PEGI.

As the message from Bruce has shown, what Frontier said in the past on this topic, doesn't apply today. So essentially, we have no idea what the situation is and isn't. Maybe it's to do with PEGI, and maybe it isn't.
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Also true, but without explanation, Horizon 4.0 just brings more confusion. One game, two codebases and 3 separate instancing systems (not counting the 3 game modes).

Like I said, disappointing, but it is what it is...
 

CMDR Sheehy

CMDR Sheehy
Obsidian Ant said:
No one from Frontier has confirmed if Horizons 4.0 and Odyssey 4.0 players being unable to instance together is related to PEGI.

As the message from Bruce has shown, what Frontier said in the past on this topic, doesn't apply today. So essentially, we have no idea what the situation is and isn't. Maybe it's to do with PEGI, and maybe it isn't.
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It is in here: https://customersupport.frontier.co...348381714-Odyssey-and-Horizons-compatibility-

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CMDR Sheehy said:
It's likely the new features, like what is happening with the Proteus site and the Thargoids, that are needed. And it's far better optimised than it was at launch.
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I wouldn't say far better , I'd say slightly , since update 8 (when I started) the fps has gone up maybe 2 or 3 fps , concourses havent changed and planets havent changed , performance is still terrible , the game has become more stable and with less bugs though
 

Old Duck

Old Duck
sallymorganmoore said:
Feel like I should once again say, following the continued posts in this thread burying my small voice below them, that we're working on a standalone follow up post which will hopefully address answers to concerns and responses to questions following the previous post on 4.0 moving forward.
Just need a little more time to get it as solid as possible for you, but it's in the works in good time prior to all of this rolling out.
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Question (something maybe to be addressed in your new OP for that thread) - is the inability of Horizons 4.0 players to instance with Odyssey 4.0 players a "This is what we (Frontier) want and have planned from the beginning" decision, or is it a "This is not what we wanted, but due to unforeseen circumstances, it's what must be, at least for now" situation?
 

LernanRuss

LernanRuss
sallymorganmoore said:
Feel like I should once again say, following the continued posts in this thread burying my small voice below them, that we're working on a standalone follow up post which will hopefully address answers to concerns and responses to questions following the previous post on 4.0 moving forward.
Just need a little more time to get it as solid as possible for you, but it's in the works in good time prior to all of this rolling out.
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We fully understand it, but UNTIL this new topic is made, we need some place to talk on the matter. And this place is as good as any.
 

Obsidian Ant

Obsidian Ant
CMDR Sheehy said:
It is in here: https://customersupport.frontier.co...348381714-Odyssey-and-Horizons-compatibility-

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That's from one year ago, before today's post. :)

Today it has been announced that Horizons 4.0 and Odyssey 4.0 cannot instance together. Before today this information on instancing wasn't available.

It hasn't been confirmed if today's information is related to the details from last year's announcement about PEGI ratings. We can only assume it is the same reason. Frontier have not yet confirmed.
 

CMDR Sheehy

CMDR Sheehy
Obsidian Ant said:
That's from one year ago, before today's post. :)

Today it has been announced that Horizons 4.0 and Odyssey 4.0 cannot instance together. Before today this information on instancing wasn't available.

It hasn't been confirmed if today's information is related to the details from last year's announcement about PEGI ratings. We can only assume it is the same reason. Frontier have not yet confirmed.
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I don't understand, it's clear to me.

Before today, the clear plan was to instance Horizons in Space but not on planets, and that was because of age ratings. That information was and is available. You've probably chatted about it in one your episodes a year ago.

We are waiting to find out the reason for this. On that we agree.
 

sallymorganmoore

Senior Community Manager : Elite Dangerous
LernanRuss said:
We fully understand it, but UNTIL this new topic is made, we need some place to talk on the matter. And this place is as good as any.
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Gosh, consider me told (I pressed enter way too soon then, I'm rushing!).
No that's fine I just wanted you to know, to anyone who didn't see my earlier comment because they get buried, that we're not not going to address this further o7
 

Obsidian Ant

Obsidian Ant
CMDR Sheehy said:
I don't understand, it's clear to me.

Before today, the clear plan was to instance Horizons in Space but not on planets, and that was because of age ratings. That information was and is available. You've probably chatted about it in one your episodes a year ago.

We are waiting to find out the reason for this. On that we agree.
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To make it clear, this is the change: Today, the plan appears to be for Horizons 4.0 and Odyssey 4.0 to not be able to instance together at all.
 

AtomicJuggler

AtomicJuggler
Obsidian Ant said:
That's from one year ago, before today's post. :)

Today it has been announced that Horizons 4.0 and Odyssey 4.0 cannot instance together. Before today that information wasn't available.

It hasn't been confirmed if today's information is related to the details from last years announcement about PEGI ratings. We can only assume it is the same reason. Frontier have not yet confirmed.
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Technically at least, O4 and H4 (should) share the exact same codebase, with some client "switches" turned off on H4 (at least that's how it should be).
If the reason for this split (between O4 and H4) is non-technical*, then well... any reason is possible...

Edit: When I say 'non-technical', I mean not requiring heavy codebase programming.
 
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