Discovery Scanner - 15/08/2022

Tyres O'Flaherty

Tyres O'Flaherty
@sallymorganmoore

Will you or one of the team get back to us on the fact gathering you need to do when it comes to CMDR's having to log to Horizons to sort and issue? Just referring to my own one mentioned earlier as well as a few others.

Wondered if that would be a separate address. I'd (we?) would also like to know which game version we should switch to - I'm thinking 3.8 but it's still too humid here for me to unfog my brain cells :giggle:
 

V'larr

V'larr
sallymorganmoore said:
Honestly I'm not working this hard with the guys right now to be sleeping on comments where people think we don't want what's best for the game or them, or even think we don't know that they aren't entirely happy with certain things - we know. We want to fix it. We're trying very, very hard to fix it. It won't happen overnight.
We can only do things within the realms of actual development possibilities but we will find ways, we are constantly looking at ways and that's all I've got right now.
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If there's any opportunities for the community to help out - with, say, participating in test client flights to see if hypothetical solutions to game issues can work - do let us know.
 

angusmadmac1

angusmadmac1
It's ok there will be two instances in the near future . EDH 3.8 will be slowly phased out as the numbers dwindle ( not doom ....yet .....😜) due to "critical fixes as there is no future content This will slowly be apparent after the console transfers .
 

Old Duck

Old Duck
angusmadmac1 said:
It's ok there will be two instances in the near future . EDH 3.8 will be slowly phased out as the numbers dwindle ( not doom ....yet .....😜) due to "critical fixes as there is no future content This will slowly be apparent after the console transfers .
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I see it the other way. With Odyssey going on sale more and more regularly, people who like Horizons 4 graphics and UI will likely just fork over the extra coin to get the full Odyssey experience, while those of us who prefer Horizons Legacy will have little reason to use H4. It would not surprise me at all if Horizons 3.8 ends up being the more popular Horizons version, especially when you factor in consoles.

Of course there's nothing stopping Frontier from pulling the plug on 3.8 and forcing everyone to H4. But they've given no indications that this is their plan, quite the opposite actually.
 

Cmdr. Numa

Cmdr. Numa
Zethraxxur said:
Why is it that the player-base must be split up between two instances of the game? In so many games, like in World of Warcraft for instance, all players are in the same game but have in-game locks in place for expansions and such. There are literally 2 things separating Odyssey players from eachother; the disembark button and the atmosphere landing module!
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I guess it is a bit more complex than that. Take a Horizons and an Odyssey player both landed on the surface of a non-atmospheric world. The Horiszons player can't disembark from the ship, can't disembark from the SRV, which would be a Scorpion in this example, which Horizons 4.0 gets access to. But how do you handle the Odyssey player ? Can he board the ship or SRV of the Horizons player ?
 

Elensar FFXI

Elensar FFXI
Part of me wonders how many people becoming hysterical over Horizons and Odyssey instancing, play in solo anyway and would be unaffected. The drama is good (I guess?) though because the passion is apparently real for the games progression meaning it's obviously not dead as we're all here talking about it. 😁👍

I actually hate these conversations in text format because everything always sounds unkind we need a pub and some cold pints. ❄️👀😀
 

AtomicJuggler

AtomicJuggler
Cmdr. Numa said:
I guess it is a bit more complex than that. Take a Horizons and an Odyssey player both landed on the surface of a non-atmospheric world. The Horiszons player can't disembark from the ship, can't disembark from the SRV, which would be a Scorpion in this example, which Horizons 4.0 gets access to. But how do you handle the Odyssey player ? Can he board the ship or SRV of the Horizons player ?
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Only in telepresence maybe ? But not in team since horizon 4 commanders can not get out of their vehicles to board another one.

Edit: Added precisions
 
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zikolach

zikolach
Cmdr. Numa said:
I guess it is a bit more complex than that. Take a Horizons and an Odyssey player both landed on the surface of a non-atmospheric world. The Horiszons player can't disembark from the ship, can't disembark from the SRV, which would be a Scorpion in this example, which Horizons 4.0 gets access to. But how do you handle the Odyssey player ? Can he board the ship or SRV of the Horizons player ?
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Wouldn't it be sufficient to limit Horizons players to buy Odyssey suits? Would it be such a big profit loss for FDev instead of supporting Hor 4.0?

UPD: probably all this is just to let Horizons players to "migrate" to the client with different PEGI rating? Or keep same rating which Horizons 3.8 has. We can only guess.
 
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Viajero

Volunteer Moderator
Viajero
Bruce G said:
Hi Factabulous,

What Sally has posted is correct. When the option to launch in 4.0 is made available to all PC players, instancing will be separate between 3.8 and 4.0 (as it has always been) AND separate between Horizons and Odyssey on 4.0. There's no final state to confirm in situations like this which are always open to re-evaluation. If the situation changes, we'll make an announcement to that effect.
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Hi @Bruce G @sallymorganmoore , irrespective of the instancing incompatibility between EDH and EDO players you mention, can EDH 4.0 players see Odyssey settlements in non atmo planets, from their ships or SRVs? Or will they just see the same 4.0 planetary surface but without the Odyssey settlements?

Asking because I think that, unless there are technical difficulties to achieve it, having EDH 4.0 players be able to instance with EDO players, see them on foot, and see EDO settlements in non atmo planets could be a very big incentive for those to get the expansion.
 
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Bonesaw

B
CalumKnight said:
Well as per the previous posts I also had been expecting Horizons 4.0 to be able to instance with Odyssey. (As per the following image.)

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When was this posted originally?
 

sallymorganmoore

Senior Community Manager : Elite Dangerous
Tyres O'Flaherty said:
@sallymorganmoore

Will you or one of the team get back to us on the fact gathering you need to do when it comes to CMDR's having to log to Horizons to sort and issue? Just referring to my own one mentioned earlier as well as a few others.

Wondered if that would be a separate address. I'd (we?) would also like to know which game version we should switch to - I'm thinking 3.8 but it's still too humid here for me to unfog my brain cells :giggle:
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Of course - this is quite a complex subject but I want to get it covered as accurately as possible :)
 

Yuri John

Yuri John
One more "Bug" report. Since February 2022, the Codex archive has been working on consoles to the extent that it can be opened again, but all the reports collected cannot be opened. (except for tourist information) I find this "slowly" critical. Any new plans for an Xbox Series/PS5 version?
 

Bonesaw

B
Old Duck said:
I see it the other way. With Odyssey going on sale more and more regularly, people who like Horizons 4 graphics and UI will likely just fork over the extra coin to get the full Odyssey experience, while those of us who prefer Horizons Legacy will have little reason to use H4. It would not surprise me at all if Horizons 3.8 ends up being the more popular Horizons version, especially when you factor in consoles.

Of course there's nothing stopping Frontier from pulling the plug on 3.8 and forcing everyone to H4. But they've given no indications that this is their plan, quite the opposite actually.
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If they did pull the plug then it would have to be taken off the console market places, game pass and p.s. store. Turning my physical copy of the game into a glorified( 40$) coster.
 

CMDR Sheehy

CMDR Sheehy
Bonesaw said:
If they did pull the plug then it would have to be taken off the console market places, game pass and p.s. store. Turning my physical copy of the game into a glorified( 40$) coster.
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Wait - you mean you haven't been using it as a coaster? What possible use has it otherwise had?
 

Dragsham

Dragsham
Wow...just read the whole thread! Peeps are peeved 4 versions of instancing, or is it 3.?
Buy odyssey!!
Problem solved!

Moving on....

I'd like to post saying that performance has improved in VR. Marginally.
I'm now on 170% steam slider hehe. Runs lush.
Welldone!!
But it's far from perfect chaps/chapettes, it needs more tweaking.
3090fe 9900k 32gig 4400mhz ram needed to get this resolution I'm in (4132+).
VRfps shows 90fps on foot 70+ in space 45+ in assets.
In bases and orbitals the framtime indicator is bright red...only the overpowering gpu hammer takes me through it.
The rest of the time it's green..cpu always green Btw.
Graphical performance needs more work.

o7
 
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