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Read in my post why you would want to launch 4.0 Horizons even though you had 4.0 odyssey available ... there are use cases for it.
 
@sallymorganmoore, I want to ask you directly. The current situation with instancing between Horizons and Odyssey is temporary due to problems with console accounts (and will accordingly be resolved over time, as was the case with the release of the first version of Horizons), or it will remain permanent and dictated by the marketing plan. Please answer as is. This is necessary to understand what we should expect in the future.
 
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Sally, what if you will change naming on steam, like Ody is base game, and Horizons is "classic DLC" ? This way Steam will keep Ody updated and I will be able to delete Horizons completely and save SSD space ...please, please,please :D
 
Interesting read.

I've disabled the intro video again, it would be good to have a persistent option in the graphics settings to disable this.

I'm not seeing any patch notes that cover what changes happened to my Odd installation upgrade. If it's only story related stuff that's super secret then saying that would be helpful, if it's bug fixes or new features I'd like to know.

Not having an option to play 4.0 seems odd, but as long as I can instance with '4.0' players from my Odd client it's not a problem. If I cannot instance with those 4.0 players I'd like to have the option (on the launcher) to install the 4.0 client please. If neither are practical perhaps some justification for this decision could be provided because it seems an unusual path to have chosen & is as likely to put customers off buying Odd if they haven't already as it is to motivate them to buy it, and may even cause some customers to regret paying for it.

The upgrade went smoothly & I'm back in the game (Odd) with no issues to report thank you.
 
@sallymorganmoore, I want to ask you directly. The current situation with instancing between Horizons and Odyssey is temporary due to problems with console accounts (and will accordingly be resolved over time, as was the case with the release of the first version of Horizons), or it will remain permanent and dictated by the marketing plan. Please answer as is. This is necessary to understand what we should expect in the future.
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We have nothing further to say regarding instancing between versions at this time.
Focus from here will be to of course appreciate your feedback on the situation and hold tightly to it, however there will not be anything further to add on this topic for you at this time.
 
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As a person who has an idea of how such projects work, this answer does not suit me. And I want to get a clear answer, as a person who, among other things, invested money in the development of this game.
Plus, I don't need any detailed information. Short enough:
yes it will be fixed later
no, it won't be fixed.
 
Greetings Commanders,

The deployment of 4.0 for PC Commanders is now complete and available for you.
This release is a courtesy and free upgrade for non-Odyssey owners. They now get to try the 4.0 codebase with a number of perks that contains (see previous FAQs), as well as engage with future content and narrative updates at no additional cost, where this wasn't possible before.




Once again to confirm. These are the options that will be available to you, following the update, via the Elite Dangerous Launcher:

Odyssey Players (players who have purchased Odyssey):

  • Elite Dangerous: Odyssey
  • Elite Dangerous: Horizons (3.8)
  • Elite Dangerous (Base Game - pre Horizons)
Horizons Players (players who have not purchased Odyssey):
  • Elite Dangerous: Horizons (4.0)
  • Elite Dangerous: Horizons < This is 3.8
  • Elite Dangerous (Base Game - pre Horizons)
(Arena and Combat Training will remain for both).




Previously shared links:




Known Issues:
Whilst a number of these known issues are naturally cause for concern among players at present, the team are viewing them with high priority of address and we'll of course inform you of progress on resolution of them in due course.

Store.
We are experiencing some degree of turbulence around the in game store at present.
Issues include:
  • A number of Odyssey suits that should be available for Commanders to purchase are currently greyed out and unobtainable in game.
  • All Suit decals in Livery display with a red "Odyssey-only content" icon, no matter if they are Odyssey or Horizons decals.

Game:
  • Codex entry for optional exploration equipment lists Advanced Planetary Vehicle Hangar rather than Advanced Docking Computer.
  • [Horizons 4.0] The glass for the bar area on Fleet Carriers has an incorrect texture.
    • It's very...VERY bright in there. Very bright.
  • When viewing ringed planetary bodies, the planetary rings do not currently appear to render correctly.
    • It is possible to drop into the ring and asteroids will be present.
  • [Horizons 4.0] Some Power Regulators, when visible on the SRV Radar appear targetable on approach, but cannot be acquired, as they are inside the local Power Building.
  • [Horizons 4.0] Suit decals currently equip as expected in Livery, but do show in-game when using the Camera Suite, nor to other players in the same instance.
  • Ship decals can be seen by other Commanders in Horizons 4.0, however the Odyssey rank decals ( Mercenary & Exobiologist) can not be seen by other players currently.
As I say, please do accept our apologies on these issues being present currently. We're working hard on our forward moving plan to address these and you'll be kept informed.




Once again, Commanders, thank you as always for being on this journey.

I'll be here to monitor proceedings following everyone's return to game and support in any way needed.

We have nothing further to say regarding instancing between versions at this time.
Focus from here will be to of course appreciate your feedback on the situation and hold tightly to it, however there will not be anything further to add on this topic for you at this time.

Onward form here is primarily going to be centered on providing any release support in the best way possible at our capacity, for any immediate issues o7

Let's go!
I think it would be reasonable for the higher ups to make a statement on that. That right there is one of the biggest things players want right now. All we want is a good reason for why it’s not happening. Is it because of server stability issues? Is it because of the age rating laws in the UK? Is it financial? Is it lack of resources?
 
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As a person who has an idea of how such projects work, this answer does not suit me. And I want to get a clear answer, as a person who, among other things, invested money in the development of this game.
Plus, I don't need any detailed information. Short enough:
yes it will be fixed later
no, it won't be fixed.
Your most likely answer is "we'll get back to this when we have something to say"
 
Your most likely answer is "we'll get back to this when we have something to say"
Well, taking into account yesterday's post, I can make an assumption that this decision was also made, literally yesterday. Therefore, the position, "we have nothing to say" is extremely strange on the part of the Frontiers.
 
Interesting read.

If you open with this, then continue as you did, you missed the opening paragraph
This release is a courtesy and free upgrade for non-Odyssey owners. They now get to try the 4.0 codebase with a number of perks that contains (see previous FAQs), as well as engage with future content and narrative updates at no additional cost, where this wasn't possible before.

So no, we, Ody players, dont get to play with Horizons 4.0 users.
It's a release for Horizons 3.8 players (and the newly migrated Console accounts), not a release for us - as we already own the full product which is Odyssey.
 
The part about instancing for this update being associated with console transfers (apologies if I misunderstood what you were saying), as this was not something in any statement I've put out (hopefully!).
It was a question addressed to you)
Let me rephrase. We can't play with people from Horizons 4.0 because of the accounts transferred from consoles or not?
 

sallymorganmoore

Senior Community Manager : Elite Dangerous
It was a question addressed to you)
Let me rephrase. We can't play with people from Horizons 4.0 because of the accounts transferred from consoles or not?

TehnoMag I included this line in the original post for a reason:

We have nothing further to say regarding instancing between versions at this time.
Focus from here will be to of course appreciate your feedback on the situation and hold tightly to it, however there will not be anything further to add on this topic for you at this time.

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Assumptions in relation to console transfers and our current stance on instancing for Horizons 4.0 are assumptions and not fact.
 
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