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[bugbait42]

Ouch, had been in discord too long to get aware of this...

BTW, taking the express elevator to hell~ on foot CZ seems fun
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Yes, I want to try some on-foot CZ stuff when I eventually get back to the bubble. Some while back I bought a dominator suit and a scary-looking machine gun thing or something to go with it, but still haven't tried them out yet as I've been too busy visiting Felicity Farseer, followed by exploring.

 

[Zieman]

Without motion sickness, SRVs (at least those in Horizon) are a complete nightmare to drive anyway...

Not really.
You need to remember a couple of basics* though:
Drive Assist OFF!!!
The throttle is not digital (or: there are other settings for throttle beside 0 and 100%), and neither is steering.
Learn to use those jump jets to your advantage, knowing when to (and how to) change SRV orientation suitably when airborne is good.

*if you don't use/have analog device to control inputs, things can get tricky though.

 

[thinder]

You did it wrong. You never, ever go to Hauser's reach. It's just Robigo to Sirius and back.

Sorry but that's the only station where one can dock a Cutter, and the same happened back at CEOS, never used to be scanned before in CEOS but now, twice in a row, so I sold my Beluga Liner and never looked back.

 

[Marvin the Martian]

Sorry but that's the only station where one can dock a Cutter,

Again, that's completely wrong.

The Python is the best ship to do it in. If you don't have one, then any medium ship will do. You simply CAN NOT use a large ship to do Robigo runs. It's not possible because Robigo Mines does not have a large dock available.

So again, it's not the mission. You're just doing it wrong.

 

[aRJay]

Thanks guys!...

Anyway, they say those datas are transcient, so if your ship is lost before you sell them so are your datas, I'm already doing my usual trade loops to buy the Universal Cartographics.

The corollary to that is if you want to dig a list of locations out of your journal files you can revisit them and collect the data again and as long as nobody else beats you to it still sell it with all the first discovery bonuses and honours.

 

[CMDRQuainMarln]

If it's Robigo to Sirius Atmospheric from Hauser's reach, yes it is. I returned to CEOS after that and experienced the same, scan and detention.

This is why it's best to do the runs from Robigo Mines outpost or dock manually at Ceos or Hauser Reach and use heatsinks to defeat the scan.

 

[CMDRQuainMarln]

Again, that's completely wrong.

The Python is the best ship to do it in. If you don't have one, then any medium ship will do. You simply CAN NOT use a large ship to do Robigo runs. It's not possible because Robigo Mines does not have a large dock available.

So again, it's not the mission. You're just doing it wrong.

Well, you can, and I have, done runs from Hauser's Reach in the Robigo system using an Anaconda. You also get passenger mission to Sirius Atmospherics from stations in Ceos, but I don't think the pay is as good.
It is best done with a Python from Robigo Mines outpost, though.

 

[aRJay]

2+2=5? I always thought that it would be 6...
Although, some people say that 1+1 can be everything between 0 and ...

But then someone else will chime in and ask which infinity they mean.

I'm still gradually on my way to Hawking's Gap and just got first discover on yet another whole system. Has multiple stars, several gas giants and the usual assortment of smaller icy and metal planets and moons. One of the gas giants is one with ammonia-based life which are apparently pretty rare. (Maybe not quite Earth-like planet rare, but not very common nevertheless.)

Anyway I decided to try to map it and took this screenshot just before I tried to get into the best position to map it:

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Like quite a few others I usually don't bother to map gas giants, as they are not simple to map and still get an efficiency bonus like you can with smaller planets. The rings get in the way and usually I end up firing a gazillion probes at them, just to be able to map them at all. With this one though, I did manage to get a bonus with a probe to spare. (Fired 16 out of the 17 required.) I did this by ignoring all the "front view, back view" stuff and first of all mapping the side facing me, then physically flying my ship to the other side of the planet so I could do that side.

There are ways to map gas giants fairly easily

• Approach so the rings are edge on and as long as they aren’t too wide so you are out of range you should be OK
• Approach so the rings are face on and map that side of the planet then reposition to the other side to get the bits you missed.

 

[thinder]

Again, that's completely wrong.

The Python is the best ship to do it in. If you don't have one, then any medium ship will do. You simply CAN NOT use a large ship to do Robigo runs. It's not possible because Robigo Mines does not have a large dock available.

So again, it's not the mission. You're just doing it wrong.

Yeah, right, that's why you find the same amount of missions in this station. FACTS. The scanning started at Robigo but went on in CEOS where I never was scanned before, the number of missions from this station is virtualy the same, so there is something else than "doing it wrong" and I used a Python to buy another Anaconda after the Colonia fiasco.

I've been doing runs to Syrius atmospheric for ages both with Python, then Anaconda and Cutter to maximize credits, I know when something changed and being put in detention twice the same day in CEOS where it never happened before is a change in the game, not something I have anything to do with.

For your info, I paid my Fleet Carrier doing COES runs from low credit, with no issues whatsoever with the passengers, except those who want you to kill an ennemy, meaning you're gonna be interdicted, scanned and shot at by their ships. But the stations, Brunel, New Dawn or Babbage never caused me any problem.

What I know for sure is that if the game senses the absense of shield on your ship, something I used to do with the Anaconda to fit an extra cabin, it worked for a good while and I could average 10 million plus per run without luxury cabins, now it will send you banging the walls of the station repeatedly, you'll get too much damage and canceled missions.

It's not random it's programmed.

 

[Marvin the Martian]

Yeah, right, that's why you find the same amount of missions in this station. FACTS. The scanning started at Robigo but went on in CEOS where I never was scanned before, the number of missions from this station is virtualy the same, so there is something else than "doing it wrong" and I used a Python to buy another Anaconda after the Colonia fiasco.

I've been doing runs to Syrius atmospheric for ages both with Python, then Anaconda and Cutter to maximize credits, I know when something changed and being put in detention twice the same day in CEOS where it never happened before is a change in the game, not something I have anything to do with.

For your info, I paid my Fleet Carrier doing COES runs from low credit, with no issues whatsoever with the passengers, except those who want you to kill an ennemy, meaning you're gonna be interdicted, scanned and shot at by their ships. But the stations, Brunel, New Dawn or Babbage never caused me any problem.

What I know for sure is that if the game senses the absense of shield on your ship, something I used to do with the Anaconda to fit an extra cabin, it worked for a good while and I could average 10 million plus per run without luxury cabins, now it will send you banging the walls of the station repeatedly, you'll get too much damage and canceled missions.

It's not random it's programmed.

I have no idea what you're on about there at all.

The fact is, if you're doing Robigo MINE runs, you are never scanned at all. By anybody. So it's not possible for that to have been the cause of your detention. That is what I've been talking about all along.

And nobody anywhere ever said that running a large ship out of Hauser's was more profitable. It isn't. And it's harder. And you get scanned. Guaranteed. And it's very likely you'll get pinched at some point because of it.

I've run Robigo Mine runs for well over 2 billion credits and have never once been so much as scanned, let alone ever pinched and locked up.

Here's one I just did. It doesn't get any easier than this:

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_s8g9hk7uI

 

[bugbait42]

• Approach so the rings are face on and map that side of the planet then reposition to the other side to get the bits you missed.

Yup, that's what I did.

 

[Marvin the Martian]

Here's one I just did. It doesn't get any easier than this:

I stand corrected.

The very next run was worth nearly 30 million.

 

[Marvin the Martian]

I stand corrected.

And again I'm corrected. This is the very next one after that:

 

[Frankymole]

I'll check again but this is not the only problem I had, mixing the Universal Limpet Controller and other types causes issues, I had to reverse to 2 X 5$ Collector Limpet Controllers.

Sometimes I think that some files in my game instalation forlders are corrupted a bit...

It's not hard to run the Verify Files thing from the launcher though it can take a while to complete.

 

[Marvin the Martian]

The question before the Fleet Carrier Owners Panel today is:

Concourse bar: yes or no?

 

[HRDiagram]

The question before the Fleet Carrier Owners Panel today is:

Concourse bar: yes or no?

Yes!

I use it as a cosmetic item that costs credits instead of ARX.

 

[Tyres O'Flaherty]

The question before the Fleet Carrier Owners Panel today is:

Concourse bar: yes or no?

Yes!

I use it as a cosmetic item that costs credits instead of ARX.

People's views will differ here!

I'm a no because a) I doubt I'll set it up as a material seller; b) I'm not usually on my carrier long enough to bother with a bar; and c) they're too expensive.

But, each to their own - there's no right or wrong.

 

[Marvin the Martian]

That's what I was wondering: if anybody actually used it for selling anything. In my brief excursion into on foot missions, most places I went looking for materials didn't have any. I wasted about 2 hours looking.

I wasn't sure if that was a one off or if that was typical.

 

[HRDiagram]

People's views will differ here!

I'm a no because a) I doubt I'll set it up as a material seller; b) I'm not usually on my carrier long enough to bother with a bar; and c) they're too expensuvd.

But, each to their own - there's no right or wrong.

As a matter of fact I agree with all three of your points!
I rarely use it for materials trading (i.e. only used it once to get rid of the chaff, and now it's no longer needed), I don't spend much time on my carrier, but I always get there when I land on it, especially when I am out in the black, if only for 30 seconds and yes, it's expensive! (But I have funds on my carrier to let it go for a few decades, so I am not that bothered! )
Like all cosmetics, I use it just because it's nice to have it. I have kits and paintjobs for my ships but, being in the pilot's seat, I don't really get to see them too much!

 

[CMDRQuainMarln]

People's views will differ here!

I'm a no because a) I doubt I'll set it up as a material seller; b) I'm not usually on my carrier long enough to bother with a bar; and c) they're too expensuvd.

But, each to their own - there's no right or wrong.

I like the idea from a pure role play perspective if out in the black with other commanders on an expedition. But there is no way we'd all stand around in the bar for no reason when we could be out flying ships. So they are expensive and pointless unless you want a lot of personal equipment engineering materials storage or want to trade those materials. I'm just not into on foot game play enough for it to be remotely worth it for me.