Two things I want to point out

[Waiting for New DLCs]

First thing, how on earth do koalas and red kangaroos enrich each other if they don't share a biome? It is super hard to meet both species' needs.
Second, giant burrowing cockroaches only live in temperate biome of Oceania, but there is no option to make Oceania temperate zoo. Why would it be so? It is very sure there is a temperate biome in Oceania...

 

[Firestar97]

First thing, how on earth do koalas and red kangaroos enrich each other if they don't share a biome?

Don't really think Koalas would even enjoy the Companionship of another Species a lot in Real Life. But I'm no Marsupial Expert so if someone can prove the Opposite feel free to do so. Some of the Interspecies Enrichment doesn't really make that much Sense. For Example why aren't Llamas and Bactrian Camels enriching each other. They should enjoy each other a lot. Frontier could do a bit better with their Research. For Example there are some Animals with totally wrong Social Requirements and why can we let Guests safely enter Giant Anteater Enclosures?

Second, giant burrowing cockroaches only live in temperate biome of Oceania, but there is no option to make Oceania temperate zoo. Why would it be so? It is very sure there is a temperate biome in Oceania...

Also regarding the Biomes they should've done better Research. Australia isn't just hot and dry with a little bit of Rainforest on the Coast. Especially Tasmania has lower Temperatures but there are also temperate Areas on Mainland Australia. Also why is Florida temperate?
A Shame that they probably won't fix the Globe because they mentioned once that it's very unlikely to happen

 

[Waiting for New DLCs]

Don't really think Koalas would even enjoy the Companionship of another Species a lot in Real Life. But I'm no Marsupial Expert so if someone can prove the Opposite feel free to do so. Some of the Interspecies Enrichment doesn't really make that much Sense. For Example why aren't Llamas and Bactrian Camels enriching each other. They should enjoy each other a lot. Frontier could do a bit better with their Research. For Example there are some Animals with totally wrong Social Requirements and why can we let Guests safely enter Giant Anteater Enclosures?


Also regarding the Biomes they should've done better Research. Australia isn't just hot and dry with a little bit of Rainforest on the Coast. Especially Tasmania has lower Temperatures but there are also temperate Areas on Mainland Australia. Also why is Florida temperate?
A Shame that they probably won't fix the Globe because they mentioned once that it's very unlikely to happen

Llamas and Bactrian camels don't enrich each other because they don't share any habitats in real life in the wild.

1-1. Aardvark&Meerkat

2-1. African Buffalo&Black Wildebeest&Common Ostrich&Common Warthog&Plains Zebra&Reticulated Giraffe&Sable Antelope&Springbok&Thomson's Gazelle
2-2. African Buffalo&Black Wildebeest&Common Ostrich&Plains Zebra&Reticulated Giraffe&Sable Antelope&Southern White Rhinoceros&Springbok&Thomson's Gazelle
2-3. African Buffalo&Common Ostrich&Nile Lechwe&Reticulated Giraffe
2-4. African Buffalo&Common Ostrich&Plains Zebra&Reticulated Giraffe&Scimitar-Horned Oryx
2-5. Nyala&Southern White Rhinoceros

3-1. American Bison&Black-Tailed Prairie Dog
3-2. American Bison&Pronghorn Antelope
3-3. Black-Tailed Prairie Dog&Striped Skunk
3-4. North American Beaver&Raccoon&Striped Skunk

4-1. Asian Small-Clawed Otter&Binturong&Malayan Tapir
4-2. Asian Small-Clawed Otter&Bornean Orangutan&Malayan Tapir
4-3. Asian Small-Clawed Otter&Indian Rhinoceros
4-4. Asian Small-Clawed Otter&Malayan Tapir&Proboscis Monkey
4-5. Binturong&Sun Bear
4-6. Bornean Orangutan&Siamang
4-7. Indian Elephant&Malayan Tapir&Proboscis Monkey
4-8. Indian Rhinoceros&Wild Water Buffalo
4-9. Malayan Tapir&Wild Water Buffalo

5-1. Bactrian Camel&Przewalski's Horse

6-1. Baird's Tapir&Capybara&Colombian White-Faced Capuchin Monkey&Giant Anteater
6-2. Capybara&Galapagos Giant Tortoise
6-3. Capybara&Llama

7-1. Black-And-White Ruffed Lemur&Red Ruffed Lemur&Ring-Tailed Lemur

8-1. European Fallow Deer&Red Deer

9-1. Japanese Macaque&Red-Crowned Crane

10-1. Koala&Red Kangaroo

These are the animals that enrich each other. Which one do you think doesn't make any sense? Maybe entering giant anteater habitat safely changed after update if I remember correctly. Before the update, guests couldn't.

Is Florida even temperate on the Planet Zoo globe? I don't even remember. They must add Temperate Australia map option for sure.

 

[Firestar97]

Llamas and Bactrian camels don't enrich each other because they don't share any habitats in real life in the wild.

This absolutely makes no Sense as a Reason for that. It should be based on if the Animals actually enjoy living with each other. Also they are both Farm Animals and can even hybridize

6-2. Capybara&Galapagos Giant Tortoise
6-3. Capybara&Llama

Those ones also don't live together in the Wild

3-1.American Bison&Black-Tailed Prairie Dog

Not sure about that one. Might be that such large Animals might stress Prairie Dogs too much

3-2.American Bison&Pronghorn Antelope

Pronghorns are easily stressed and shouldn't be really kept together with other Animals

3-3. Black-Tailed Prairie Dog&Striped Skunk

,,While primarily an insectivore, the striped skunk is adaptable enough to incorporate other animals and even vegetable matter into its diet"
,,at least one specimen was observed pursuing gray cottontails into their burrows"

Striped skunk - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Sounds like a Accident waiting to happen

4-2. Asian Small-Clawed Otter&Bornean Orangutan&Malayan Tapir

Not sure if it would work to keep Orangutans together with Tapirs

4-7. Indian Elephant&Malayan Tapir&Proboscis Monkey

Just be careful if you keep a Bull Elephant in the same Enclosure. They get very aggressive when they come into Musth but most Zoos don't keep their male and female Elephants together permanently anyways as far as I know

I think besides the Koala and Red Kangaroo (maybe) everything else should be fine

Maybe entering giant anteater habitat safely changed after update if I remember correctly. Before the update, guests couldn't.

Maybe they've changed it then. Pretty sure they were Walkthrough when the South America Pack was released

Is Florida even temperate on the Planet Zoo globe?

Yes, I know that for sure because originally I wanted to build my Marine Park there but decided to build it on Hawaii instead because Florida is temperate

 

[Waiting for New DLCs]

This absolutely makes no Sense as a Reason for that. It should be based on if the Animals actually enjoy living with each other. Also they are both Farm Animals and can even hybridize


Those ones also don't live together in the Wild


Not sure about that one. Might be that such large Animals might stress Prairie Dogs too much


Pronghorns are easily stressed and shouldn't be really kept together with other Animals


,,While primarily an insectivore, the striped skunk is adaptable enough to incorporate other animals and even vegetable matter into its diet"
,,at least one specimen was observed pursuing gray cottontails into their burrows"

Striped skunk - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Sounds like a Accident waiting to happen


Not sure if it would work to keep Orangutans together with Tapirs


Just be careful if you keep a Bull Elephant in the same Enclosure. They get very aggressive when they come into Musth but most Zoos don't keep their male and female Elephants together permanently anyways as far as I know

I think besides the Koala and Red Kangaroo (maybe) everything else should be fine


Maybe they've changed it then. Pretty sure they were Walkthrough when the South America Pack was released


Yes, I know that for sure because originally I wanted to build my Marine Park there but decided to build it on Hawaii instead because Florida is temperate

You really think many of them don't work and even quote them one by one! But what do you mean when you say everything else should be fine? You just said many of them don't work! Giant anteaters weren't walkthrough when they were released as I remember, but after the update, they changed to walkthrough.

 

[Firestar97]

You just said many of them don't work!

Never said that

Some of the Interspecies Enrichment doesn't really make that much Sense

Giant anteaters weren't walkthrough when they were released as I remember, but after the update, they changed to walkthrough.

Then it must've been in a later Update. Doesn't change the Fact though that they are too dangerous for that

 

[Waiting for New DLCs]

Never said that



Then it must've been in a later Update. Doesn't change the Fact though that they are too dangerous for that

Maybe I misunderstood you. Giant anteaters must be dangerous. They have such large claws.

 

[KönigDerKaffeebohnen]

The interspecies inrutchment system is random and quite sucky, pretty nuch only existing as a subtle tutorial for new players to try mixinh species.

 

[Waiting for New DLCs]

The interspecies inrutchment system is random and quite sucky, pretty nuch only existing as a subtle tutorial for new players to try mixinh species.

1-1. Aardvark&Meerkat

2-1. African Buffalo&Black Wildebeest&Common Ostrich&Common Warthog&Plains Zebra&Reticulated Giraffe&Sable Antelope&Springbok&Thomson's Gazelle
2-2. African Buffalo&Black Wildebeest&Common Ostrich&Plains Zebra&Reticulated Giraffe&Sable Antelope&Southern White Rhinoceros&Springbok&Thomson's Gazelle
2-3. African Buffalo&Common Ostrich&Nile Lechwe&Reticulated Giraffe
2-4. African Buffalo&Common Ostrich&Plains Zebra&Reticulated Giraffe&Scimitar-Horned Oryx
2-5. Nyala&Southern White Rhinoceros

3-1. American Bison&Black-Tailed Prairie Dog
3-2. American Bison&Pronghorn Antelope
3-3. Black-Tailed Prairie Dog&Striped Skunk
3-4. North American Beaver&Raccoon&Striped Skunk

4-1. Asian Small-Clawed Otter&Binturong&Malayan Tapir
4-2. Asian Small-Clawed Otter&Bornean Orangutan&Malayan Tapir
4-3. Asian Small-Clawed Otter&Indian Rhinoceros
4-4. Asian Small-Clawed Otter&Malayan Tapir&Proboscis Monkey
4-5. Binturong&Sun Bear
4-6. Bornean Orangutan&Siamang
4-7. Indian Elephant&Malayan Tapir&Proboscis Monkey
4-8. Indian Rhinoceros&Wild Water Buffalo
4-9. Malayan Tapir&Wild Water Buffalo

5-1. Bactrian Camel&Przewalski's Horse

6-1. Baird's Tapir&Capybara&Colombian White-Faced Capuchin Monkey&Giant Anteater
6-2. Capybara&Galapagos Giant Tortoise
6-3. Capybara&Llama

7-1. Black-And-White Ruffed Lemur&Red Ruffed Lemur&Ring-Tailed Lemur

8-1. European Fallow Deer&Red Deer

9-1. Japanese Macaque&Red-Crowned Crane

10-1. Koala&Red Kangaroo

Of these, which one do you think is sucky and why?

 

[Chuditch]

First thing, how on earth do koalas and red kangaroos enrich each other if they don't share a biome? It is super hard to meet both species' needs.

The kangaroo and koala enriching each other has always been something that bothered me, they require very different enclosure types and I've never heard of the two species being kept together IRL. It's like giving a rhea and a sloth an interspecies enrichment bonus just because they're both South American.

None of the current Australian species should enrich each other or be kept together, which just goes to show how desperately we are in need of things like emus, wallabies and echidnas.

Second, giant burrowing cockroaches only live in temperate biome of Oceania, but there is no option to make Oceania temperate zoo. Why would it be so? It is very sure there is a temperate biome in Oceania...

The giant burrowing cockroach should actually have the tropical and grassland tags rather than the temperate, as they live in north-east Queensland rather than the temperate regions of the south-east. That's a weird error on Frontier's part that they still haven't fixed.

There should absolutely be a temperate map option for Oceania regardless, it's impossible to build a realistic zoo set in south-eastern Australia, Tasmania or New Zealand when placing a map there gives you a tropical rainforest or an African savannah.

 

[Waiting for New DLCs]

The kangaroo and koala enriching each other has always been something that bothered me, they require very different enclosure types and I've never heard of the two species being kept together IRL. It's like giving a rhea and a sloth an interspecies enrichment bonus just because they're both South American.

None of the current Australian species should enrich each other or be kept together, which just goes to show how desperately we are in need of things like emus, wallabies and echidnas.


The giant burrowing cockroach should actually have the tropical and grassland tags rather than the temperate, as they live in north-east Queensland rather than the temperate regions of the south-east. That's a weird error on Frontier's part that they still haven't fixed.

There should absolutely be a temperate map option for Oceania regardless, it's impossible to build a realistic zoo set in south-eastern Australia, Tasmania or New Zealand when placing a map there gives you a tropical rainforest or an African savannah.

We really do lack a lot of Australian animals, I guess. Any way, thank you for your opinion. I hope Frontier Developments listens to the game player's words and make changes.

 

[Davinia_NL]

prairie dogs + anything big is sucky for two reasons.
1. prairie dogs dig! to make a viable enclosure for them (IRL) you'd have to make it dig-out-proof (as well as escape-proof). How are you going to make an enclosure big enough for a Bison dig-out-proof??
2. with all the holes prairie dogs dig there is a very big risk of the Bison breaking a leg by misstepping himself in one of those holes. Why would you risk that?

 

[DrBurrito]

Koalas and kangaroos enriching each other is a hot topic on its own, so I will not comment on it, but there are some interesting points you've made that I want to comment on.

First thing, how on earth do koalas and red kangaroos enrich each other if they don't share a biome? It is super hard to meet both species' needs.

Realistically koalas should be given 'Grassland' biome suitability because they are present in savannas and grasslands across tropical, subtropical and temperate Australia. I never understood why many climbing animals like ring-tailed lemurs, chimps and koalas were never given 'Grassland' biome suitability. Almost implying trees can't exist in savannas, when the very definition of savanna includes trees. Interestingly, many tree assets in the game already have the 'Grassland' tag, which contradicts the decision to not include 'Grassland' biome suitability for these animals.

Second, giant burrowing cockroaches only live in temperate biome of Oceania, but there is no option to make Oceania temperate zoo. Why would it be so? It is very sure there is a temperate biome in Oceania...

Funnily enough this is the only forest/woodland animal in Australia that shouldn't have 'Temperate' biome suitability in the game; as they are endemic to a very small portion of tropical and subtropical Australia that is part rainforest and part dry woodland/savanna. 'Tropical' and 'Grassland' biome suitability would be more fitting for this species of cockroach.

That being said, your point is more than valid. There should be 'Temperate' biome available on the globe for Australia. The recently added common wombat is a prime example, having biome suitability only for 'Temperate' and 'Grassland'. I was worried they would include 'Tropical' in order to justify the globe, but thankfully they stayed true to realism. Since the platypus, koala and many other examples additionally have 'Tropical' biome suitability, this makes the common wombat the perfect ambassador animal for 'Temperate' biome representation on the globe for Australia.

As I do elsewhere, I will link my front-end globe biome feedback thread here as well:

Single Source to Fix All Front-End Globe Biome Issues

As some of us know, last year there had been some complaints about the front-end globe's biome inaccuracies. One particular case, China, was fixed, but the rest remained untouched, with a patch note saying this would be the one and only change made to the front-end globe. However, since we saw...

forums.frontier.co.uk

 

[Waiting for New DLCs]

prairie dogs + anything big is sucky for two reasons.
1. prairie dogs dig! to make a viable enclosure for them (IRL) you'd have to make it dig-out-proof (as well as escape-proof). How are you going to make an enclosure big enough for a Bison dig-out-proof??
2. with all the holes prairie dogs dig there is a very big risk of the Bison breaking a leg by misstepping himself in one of those holes. Why would you risk that?

So you think American Bison&Black-Tailed Prairie Dog is the only sucky combination for that reason?

Koalas and kangaroos enriching each other is a hot topic on its own, so I will not comment on it, but there are some interesting points you've made that I want to comment on.


Realistically koalas should be given 'Grassland' biome suitability because they are present in savannas and grasslands across tropical, subtropical and temperate Australia. I never understood why many climbing animals like ring-tailed lemurs, chimps and koalas were never given 'Grassland' biome suitability. Almost implying trees can't exist in savannas, when the very definition of savanna includes trees. Interestingly, many tree assets in the game already have the 'Grassland' tag, which contradicts the decision to not include 'Grassland' biome suitability for these animals.


Funnily enough this is the only forest/woodland animal in Australia that shouldn't have 'Temperate' biome suitability in the game; as they are endemic to a very small portion of tropical and subtropical Australia that is part rainforest and part dry woodland/savanna. 'Tropical' and 'Grassland' biome suitability would be more fitting for this species of cockroach.

That being said, your point is more than valid. There should be 'Temperate' biome available on the globe for Australia. The recently added common wombat is a prime example, having biome suitability only for 'Temperate' and 'Grassland'. I was worried they would include 'Tropical' in order to justify the globe, but thankfully they stayed true to realism. Since the platypus, koala and many other examples additionally have 'Tropical' biome suitability, this makes the common wombat the perfect ambassador animal for 'Temperate' biome representation on the globe for Australia.

As I do elsewhere, I will link my front-end globe biome feedback thread here as well:

Single Source to Fix All Front-End Globe Biome Issues

As some of us know, last year there had been some complaints about the front-end globe's biome inaccuracies. One particular case, China, was fixed, but the rest remained untouched, with a patch note saying this would be the one and only change made to the front-end globe. However, since we saw...

forums.frontier.co.uk

I never knew if koalas&red kangaroos was a hot topic. I never thought about koalas needing grassland suitability. I also never thought about giant burrowing cockroaches' actual biomes in real life. Thank you for your opinion.

 

[Swjosdotschka]

and why can we let Guests safely enter Giant Anteater Enclosures?

Giant Anteaters are dangerous animals. It was never a good idea to make them walk-in habitat animals in the first place. I don't know of any zoo that even has 1:1 contact between keepers and anteaters nowadays, since there were deaths in the past. No guest should be close to an animal with 4 inch claws.

Honestly, sometimes it's wild to me why people think animal X or Y should be a walk-through animal. Same with the camel. They are large, can kick all around and can be quite aggressive. Zebras? No shetland ponies and I rarely see any tame equines in walk-in habitats in the first place, for the same reasons as camels.

 

[Firestar97]

Zebras? No shetland ponies and I rarely see any tame equines in walk-in habitats in the first place, for the same reasons as camels.

Someone suggested Zebras? You can train Equines to not kick when someone is behind them but Zebras are incredibly hard to train. I think most of the Time it doesn't even work at all. Would never put a Zebra in a Petting Zoo

 

[Captain Callum]

I would never want to be in the same habitat as a giant anteater, the last time I saw one irl it looked to be a very territorial animal who would not be afraid to use those giant claws. Viewed from a sturdy barrier was more than enough of a view

 

[Waiting for New DLCs]

Giant Anteaters are dangerous animals. It was never a good idea to make them walk-in habitat animals in the first place. I don't know of any zoo that even has 1:1 contact between keepers and anteaters nowadays, since there were deaths in the past. No guest should be close to an animal with 4 inch claws.

Honestly, sometimes it's wild to me why people think animal X or Y should be a walk-through animal. Same with the camel. They are large, can kick all around and can be quite aggressive. Zebras? No shetland ponies and I rarely see any tame equines in walk-in habitats in the first place, for the same reasons as camels.

It's pretty safe to keep any animals at a non-walkthrough habitat.

Someone suggested Zebras? You can train Equines to not kick when someone is behind them but Zebras are incredibly hard to train. I think most of the Time it doesn't even work at all. Would never put a Zebra in a Petting Zoo

I just try to keep species with interspecies enrichment all together so those habitats often are not a walkthrough habitat. I wonder why the topic is about walkthrough habitat all of a sudden by the way.

 

[Waiting for New DLCs]

I would never want to be in the same habitat as a giant anteater, the last time I saw one irl it looked to be a very territorial animal who would not be afraid to use those giant claws. Viewed from a sturdy barrier was more than enough of a view

Dangerous enough. If I put Baird's Tapir&Capybara&Colombian White-Faced Capuchin Monkey&Giant Anteater all together, it is a non-walkthrough habitat. I always tend to put species with enrichment together.

 

[Swjosdotschka]

Someone suggested Zebras? You can train Equines to not kick when someone is behind them but Zebras are incredibly hard to train. I think most of the Time it doesn't even work at all. Would never put a Zebra in a Petting Zoo

A lot of people actually and I believe Planet Zoo Plus (the mods) makes them walk-in animals.
And of course you can train horses to not kick when someone is behind them. I was a rider. But they are still sensitive animals and easily scared. It's completly irresponsuble for me to put them into a walk-in habitat. Not only because of kicking, but also because of biting. And everyone and their mother would put kids on their backs constantly.

Not every tame animal should be trusted with 20 guests at a time and especially not with super small kids walking around.