Compulsively bad, bit like one of those trashy womens magazines, or the national enquirer..
1.1 Beta - You're not missing anything
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Compulsively bad, bit like one of those trashy womens magazines, or the national enquirer..
Let's be realistic here, it's not just 1 month since release (btw we're quite close to 2 months since release), the issue is that community goals is the first actual new feature since the release of mining back in beta 3.
And the first feature after the release of beta 3 is what? A progress bar. A progress bar that you advance by doing the same grind that people have been doing since early beta phases.
And the first feature after the release of beta 3 is what? A progress bar. A progress bar that you advance by doing the same grind that people have been doing since early beta phases.
Yes, any guesses as to how construction of a new station will actually be handled?
Pick one of these:
- We'll see construction ships buzzing around, heroic workers EVA-ing, sparks flying, plasma welding bots, sections being constructed or hauled into place as the thing organically takes breathtaking shape before our very eyes.
- The servers will go off, and when you log back in, the station model will be updated another 25%.
100% agree
Haha, so true. More like the comments section of the Daily mail online. Terrible to read but strangely addictive.
I'd personally not want to take part in a trade community goal anyway. I'd be more interested in the combat orientated ones.
Clearly, it's still not where it needs to be. Keep giving your feedback, though. Like on how it could be improved (I say this because the OP doesn't appear to have any of this). It's pretty clear the reward is underwhelming. But, generally speaking, the game has underwhelming rewards for everything, except trading.
One area I think FD could look into is providing tangible, non-credit rewards. That is, upgrades that are alternative/improved versions of what you can buy in the stations. Or higher tier rewards of ships that are alternative/improved versions of what we can buy in the shipyard.
On top of this, every career except trading could use a significant revamp pass on credit awards. And we really do need more missions that scale with your ranking of the appropriate rank. My sincere hope is that the introduction of wings will pave the way for all of the above, in tangent with improvements to the goals system.
And then we have Thargoids. One day.
Clearly, it's still not where it needs to be. Keep giving your feedback, though. Like on how it could be improved (I say this because the OP doesn't appear to have any of this). It's pretty clear the reward is underwhelming. But, generally speaking, the game has underwhelming rewards for everything, except trading.
One area I think FD could look into is providing tangible, non-credit rewards. That is, upgrades that are alternative/improved versions of what you can buy in the stations. Or higher tier rewards of ships that are alternative/improved versions of what we can buy in the shipyard.
On top of this, every career except trading could use a significant revamp pass on credit awards. And we really do need more missions that scale with your ranking of the appropriate rank. My sincere hope is that the introduction of wings will pave the way for all of the above, in tangent with improvements to the goals system.
And then we have Thargoids. One day.
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I don't know why you bother to post and inform us of this fact, either.
SpiralRazor
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A fininshed game where AT LEAST the stuff that was released WITH it was working 99% correctly...
Thats what i expect out of a release client.
I don't know why you bother to inform us that you don't know why he bothered to inform us
SpiralRazor
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Coming from a Comp Sci background, i think you are way over estimating how difficult some of the most annoying and game breaking bugs and systems are to actually fix/implement.... Were talking one person maybe a couple days here. Assuming that FDs base code isnt a huge spaghetti mess of messes.
Yep, I really get the POV. It's a compelling reason to not participate in beta's, for me. It's comparable to opening your Christmas presents before Christmas. I knew I'd like this game, what to generally expect etc. I think the devs have done a fair amount of work in the past month.
I'd frame it simply like this. If someone isn't enjoying the game, how long did it take them to realise? If you don't like the speed/direction of development, how long will you wait? If there is optimism, then they can simply come back at a later date.
There's always a degree of finality with the more critical postings, almost like they need reassurance to go do something better with their time. In my little world, I've already had $60 worth of entertainment, and I think within 3-6 months a lot of the mainstream suggestions will be implemented.
Aside from the 'is that it' improvements of 1.1 there's the Mac version they've been working on. I'm (err) quietly optimistic about the game, and played it quite heavily upon release but have taken it easy the past week due to work commitments. The nice thing is I'm not really missing out or obligated to 'catch up' in any grind-related manner. It's all good (for me).
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Say what now?
Community goals being nothing more than organized grinding not worth bothering with I was expecting but this concerns me. VR implementation is one of the few things this game got right, I prefer they would trash 1.1 completely than mess with my DK2.
SpiralRazor
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Some of it is, but A LOT of it is not...work i mean...not a lot of work for some things..
Heres the thing though, implementing new systems into the game while the old systems are still bugged and terrible is....just bad form and poor workflow design.
No, it doesn't.
SpiralRazor
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The "features" you talk about are so completely stupid that giving feedback on them is kind of senseless. Like...if i glued a large rock to your living room floor and asked you to give me feedback on it..."Well sir...its a big piece of iregular basalt glued to my living room floor".
yeah.
The turret changes are good though, kudos to that woman.
is it not called balancing
if 200 of 100000 people in Beta are willing to take part in a community goal then 1000 of 400000 will do
if in 2 days 200 people has become 100 and are at 6% then they can figure it will take 2months to achieve in actual
that is or isn't what ED excpect so they balance the requirement and put it up or down they pay more or less to attract players in
If you cant figure out how to be a tester then here is a useful tip - dont
Seems perfectly sensible to me
Some things take less time then others to implement, teams of developers work on different parts of the project, and some things will obviously be completed before others. This is just the way software development works. The fact that small updates are being completed while larger ones are not holding up progress shows good workflow. An unorganized development project would not be releasing updates as quickly as FD is.
Being an actual software developer, I think you're way underestimating how difficult some of the most trivial appearing bugs are to a) reproduce and b) fix.
I shouldn't have to come on here and defend Frontier's work ethic. It's clear that they are a talented bunch who work their socks off to try to keep us happy. How demoralising must it be for them to see threads like this criticising their efforts? They did an extraordinary job in getting to where they did at release, but it's not the fault of the developers that the game was released prematurely. What we should be doing is getting behind Frontier's team, helping them find and fix the bugs, giving constructive feedback and stop acting like whiny children. IMO.
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