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CMDR Nef

CMDR Nef
Kyokushin said:
I am do not know how works aiming with fixed weapons on Xbone pad and version, but, in silent mode with hrp any gimballs or turrers cannot lock on You. If playing on fixed on xbox is not easy and common, with a 'stealth' build you could be hard to aim.
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Would that work against NPCs too? I've never tried silent running in a combat role before. Just messing around, I got my Python up to 1,100 armor without even going full armor. I could imagine a Dropship/assault/gunship going full armor if you can't be locked on to with gimbled weapons. What about rockets? Most players that I know just run basic like gimbled pulse setups. Only the vets I know of use weapons like railguns, let alone fixed beams or something of that nature. What about radar signature? I could have my new anti-player role.
 
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Kyokushin

Kyokushin
Omnifarious Nef said:
Would that work against NPCs too? I've never tried silent running in a combat role before. Just messing around, I got my Python up to 1,100 armor without even going full armor. I could imagine a Dropship/assault/gunship going full armor if you can't be locked on to with gimbled weapons. What about rockets? Most players that I know just run basic like gimbled pulse setups. Only the vets I know of use weapons like railguns, let alone fixed beams or something of that nature. What about radar signature? I could have my new anti-player role.
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You need to test it against NPC, but players have a problem to aim, especially if you are using a black skin. Here you have pvp build fore stealth python.
http://coriolis.io/outfit/python/24...b292927.AwRhrSumSA==.Aw18eQ==?bn=Stone Reaper
3900 armour. It is like a bunker, much better than any other ship (except conda/vette/cutter). We made a test and i just cant touch this in my shielded fdl.
Rockets and torpedoes also cant lock on you, but they could make a lot of dmg to hull, it is wise to have installed POD on HRP based builds.
 
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CMDR Nef

CMDR Nef
Kyokushin said:
You need to test it against NPC, but players have a problem to aim, especially if you are using a black skin. Here you have pvp build fore stealth python.
http://coriolis.io/outfit/python/24...b292927.AwRhrSumSA==.Aw18eQ==?bn=Stone Reaper
3900 armour. It is like a bunker, much better than any other ship (except conda/vette/cutter). We made a test and i just cant touch this in my shielded fdl.
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3900? Wow, must be from the bulkhead upgrades, no? I've never used them because they're crazy expensive, and don't inform you of how much armor they give. Does anyone know the exact numbers? Like the hull reinforcement packages tell you the exact amount of armor they give you, but the bulkhead descriptions don't.
 
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DustyArne

DustyArne
BongoBaggins said:
Anyone?

:S
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Only based on figting NPC in warzones, i find the FDL more easy to kill with then the FAS, never flew an orca.. so i have no clue about that. Also the endurance of MY FDL in a warzone is pretty much the same, if not, better aswith my fully upgraded FAS, with 2 HRP, and Militairy grade bulkheads..

But this is PVE, in PVP, i expect that PVP python to kick the FDL's butt
 
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Kyokushin

Kyokushin
Omnifarious Nef said:
3900? Wow, must be from the bulkhead upgrades, no? I've never used them because they're crazy expensive, and don't inform you of how much armor they give. Does anyone know the exact numbers? Like the hull reinforcement packages tell you the exact amount of armor they give you, but the bulkhead descriptions don't.
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You have everything on coriolis about HRP. About the bulkheads - reinforced alloy +25% against thermic/kinetic, mirrored +75% against thermic and +25 kinetic, reactive +25% against thermik +75% against kinethig, military, +50% to both.

DustyArne said:
Only based on figting NPC in warzones, i find the FDL more easy to kill with then the FAS, never flew an orca.. so i have no clue about that. Also the endurance of MY FDL in a warzone is pretty much the same, if not, better aswith my fully upgraded FAS, with 2 HRP, and Militairy grade bulkheads..

But this is PVE, in PVP, i expect that PVP python to kick the FDL's butt
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Make a numbers on coriolis.
Shieldless FDL 2100, ASP 2400, FAS 2800, Cliper/Orca 3300/ Python 3900 armour points. And Shieldless are better than shielded in most, however it may depend of individual player preferences. In case of FDL shielded and shieldless works similar, maybe shieldless/stealth are a bit more efficient.
 
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tafkabb

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DustyArne said:
Only based on figting NPC in warzones, i find the FDL more easy to kill then the FAS, never flew an orca.. so i have clue about that. Also the endurance of MY FDL in a warzone is pretty much the same, if not, better aswith my fully upgraded FAS, with 2 HRP, and Militairy grade bulkheads..

But this is PVE, in PVP, i expent that PVP python to kick the FDL's butt
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Go an find the 'Pirate Orca vs Combat Python' video on Youtube if you haven't seen it already. The Orca is a beast despite having the same hardpoints as the DBX

Edit: this one
[video=youtube_share;8EH0OC9j04Q]http://youtu.be/8EH0OC9j04Q[/video]
 
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Kyokushin

Kyokushin
Shieldless Clipper vs shieldless FAS, very equal fight, in my opinion Clipper is better - faster, and better armoured, but fight was equal because CMDR i fought, played a bit better than me.

[video=youtube;KsKp5gZLEB0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsKp5gZLEB0[/video]

I cant tell you why, but we both not using silent running there. It is of course our mistake.

Ok. Sorry for OT :)
 
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Kyokushin

Kyokushin
DustyArne said:
But, why, did he kept running in to you? while clearly that didn't worked out.
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He have frags only installed - a build dedicated against my build (we have a few duels before), so the only one way to hit me was a shoot from four frags in a straight, just before ram. And i think he though a FAS have more hull than a Clipper, but it is not true, fAS have max 2800, clipper 3300. However, a Commander i fought is a good player in PvP, it was not our first fight - i lost in orca (but there was only a few percent of difference), so i got a clipper to have better agility and speed.
 
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DustyArne

DustyArne
Kyokushin said:
He have frags only installed - a build dedicated against my build (we have a few duels before), so the only one way to hit me was a shoot from four frags in a straight, just before ram. And i think he though a FAS have more hull than a Clipper, but it is not true, fAS have max 2800, clipper 3300. However, a Commander i fouth is a good player in PvP, it was not our first fight - i lost in orca (but there was only a few percent of difference), so i got a clipper to have better agility and speed.
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Ah, yeah.. legit mistake.. lol

But long story short, its kinda stange that a dedicated war vessel like the FDL, will underdo compared with a luxery cruiseship like the Orca..
 

Kyokushin

Kyokushin
DustyArne said:
But long story short, its kinda stange that a dedicated war vessel like the FDL, will underdo compared with a luxery cruiseship like the Orca..
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Yepp, thats why i got a troll Orca, to show that strange situation/balance.
Of course also clipper and fas should win. Clipper is a bit better than orca, faster and agile.
 
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Tempestfox3

Tempestfox3
Kyokushin said:
You need to test it against NPC, but players have a problem to aim, especially if you are using a black skin. Here you have pvp build fore stealth python.
http://coriolis.io/outfit/python/24...b292927.AwRhrSumSA==.Aw18eQ==?bn=Stone Reaper
3900 armour. It is like a bunker, much better than any other ship (except conda/vette/cutter). We made a test and i just cant touch this in my shielded fdl.
Rockets and torpedoes also cant lock on you, but they could make a lot of dmg to hull, it is wise to have installed POD on HRP based builds.
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Gimballed Cannons, Ewww.

You know if you get closer It depends on the ship but all ships have a auto detect range where no matter how stealthy they are you'll see them and be able to lock on. (With a Python I think it's around 800m)
 

tafkabb

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Tempestfox3 said:
Gimballed Cannons, Ewww.

You know if you get closer It depends on the ship but all ships have a auto detect range where no matter how stealthy they are you'll see them and be able to lock on. (With a Python I think it's around 800m)
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My brain is telling me 300m is the minimum. If I'm wrong don't blame me, blame my brain
 
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