... My Python loadout not outruns my Cobra and my old Asp. That does sort of blur ship classes, but it does have rationale within the Elite narrative and as a gameplay element (we love souped up ships!).
I'd not mind the RNG as much if it was clear that it was say, RNG reward, but the mats were straightforward to put together (think about Edison, he didn't fail, he just made a thousand things that got him nearer to success each time) or if the mats were hellish but the reward was predictable. It's the combination of RNG mats AND RNG reward that makes the Engineers uniquely idiotic, and divorces the concept of effort to reward ratio.
Some people get absurdly lucky and will get their best outcome on the first roll, some will take multiple weeks to get the materials they need due to bad mission spawns and then to add salt to the wound, bad rolls on top. So put the two together? No. That's where it falls down for me, if you want the Engineers to be crazy tweakers, great, knock yourself out, but then they have to be accessibly crazy tweakers, the current setup just makes them inaccessible and unrewarding for anyone but the most dedicated of forumites (most of whom are here).
Not seeing that - people are asking FDev to consider some of the issues that they've seen as players. Go from there. No one has said it has to be done as X really, just it shouldn't be done as Y: let's talk on the rest.
All of which are essentially arguments which would require either high fraction delays or full travel time delays, which render the concept of ship transit useless, so they can be disregarded from the gate, and the people who say there should be a "short" delay, well that's akin to saying "Go take a tea and your ship will be ready" so there might as well be no delay at all. Effectively you've two options - Instawarp or No warp. Anything with a time delay is just inconvenience for the sake of it, narrative is just a smokescreen argument for "I had to suffer through a ton of loading screens so I'm going to make you wait."
Yes, but so do cheat modes. And what happens when people get what they want through cheat modes? Watch how quickly they get bored of the game they're playing. When we get what we want, what we have loses value, and that's very much at the core here. This is a BIG change. A BIG reward. And in game mechanics, a BIG reward requires a trade off - and there is no trade off here. Just a simple Elite ideology breaking "cheat" to get your ship to a player without having to navigate any factor of the set-up universe. Why? because they want it. Is that really a good enough excuse? I want a Corvette? Can I instant-have one?
Offer people what they want, they'll often say yes and think about it later. Doesn't mean it's right.
I've played in Skyrim with full cheat modes on, but then I've gone back, wiped out all the cheat mods and set it up as a much tougher game using Frostfall and the like, however, the point there is I -choose- my difficulty settings and I'm not -imposing- them on other people. If I want to have full on realism in a game, that's my good right, but I'm not going to force every other Skyrim player to do the same, they can do as they please. Now there's an argument here that there's a shared universe, so the change is going to affect everyone, casual, mid or hardcore, but I would take a firm guess that the hardcore group (and I am in the latter as a HOTAS exclusive flyer) are in the minority, and even I'm overjoyed at instawarp, because frankly I don't find the concept of shuttling around in little ships to move my big ships around *FUN*, it's not, it's boring as all sin, and getting rid of the busywork for me is nothing but net. Now I can simply use ONE fast ship and then warp whatever big ship I require to the location and get laserboppin'.
For me that's nothing but positive.
I can assure you that you are rewarded amply for your time spent with engineers. I told you this before and you blew me off...
Then you may wish to stop posting up straw men in future
