But they can already do it when you die and respawn so what's the difference. ED lore isn't consistent anyway, just treat it as the gamey system it is and either use or ignore at as you please.
2.2's Instant Ship and Module Transport - Yay or Nay?
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But they can already do it when you die and respawn so what's the difference. ED lore isn't consistent anyway, just treat it as the gamey system it is and either use or ignore at as you please.
I like this idea.
You should have to go to the station to be able to set up the transfer.
That's all due to licensing, you pay for it in lieu of a transfer fee.
The only thing you listed there that I remotely agree with is exposed cockpits. Your opinion on aesthethic design, technological limitations/difficulties to instancing and BGS, and a *core* game mechanic for death aren't particularly relevant. Having a ship instantly transfer a distance it may take you hours to traverse manually is a) illusion breaking, b) not consistent with the internal logic of the game universe, and c) entirely avoidable.
Robert Maynard
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It is quite an elegant way of introducing a delay while, at the same time, requiring planning and forethought.
The player in the ASPX[ENG] would still get there rather quicker than the ship sent on ahead though....
+1. Frontier have built a universe around specific space travel technology. It isn't scientifically feasible according to current knowledge, but it is self-consistent.* Moving things light-years instantaneously simply doesn't fit with the model.
* And yes, I am aware that the instant-respawn on death thing isn't consistent with the FD universe, but there really isn't any practical alternative in a shared-universe game beyond an enforced dead-is-dead-and-you-start-again-from-zero mode. Which I doubt many players would accept.
Some people are forgetting that it seems that transfer fees depend on a) the distance of travel b) the type of the ship. It might be possible for a transfer to cost millions, or hundreds of millions in case of distance like Jaques Station. If someone is willing to pay that much, they deserve an instantenous transer.
That said, personally I would also like a small time delay.
That said, personally I would also like a small time delay.
Yaffle
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It was consistent, but it is losing it bit by bit.
I've never been a fan of the insta-spawn in your old ship, but could at least reconcile it to 'it's always been that way' and until we have escape pods taking us home or similar it's kinda how it is. With that I can loosely justify it with my commander being in stasis so it seems instant (but ignore the non-moving galaxy clock) so while (s)he was in an escape capsule a nice man from the pru sorted out a new ship. I'd actually rather the game dumped you at the nearest station, and if that didn't have the ship in stock you could borrow a sidewinder to get to where it was in stock. Instant has to be the case here, it would be a poor game that sat a commander useless in an escape pod from Beagle Point to Jaques (or wherever).
Every time there's more contradiction it kills the reason for the background to exist a little bit more, every time a game fundamental rule shifts it damages the fabric of the game. Landing on planets, fine. We now have approach suites. Engineers, fine, weird, but fine and internally consistent. Death and insurance, economically for the insurance companies bonkers, makes no real sense in the appear bit, but has been consistent from the beginning. This, and the BGS change mentioned above, just keeps damaging the very fabric of the reason there is a game to be played.
The forum already exploded after some FD change on the game (remembrer when the python was nerfed or the IA buffed ?
).The point is the transfert price should be related to the assurance cost: 1% for the cheapest, 10% for the most expensive.
If you can afford a full A grade Anaconda, 10% would be peanuts in regard of the risk of paying the full assurance
I hope that Frontier listen and do not completely destroy the entire backbone of this game. How anyone can pitch this idea in their mind and not see the game-breaking problems instantly is ludicrous. It is as if it was proposed by someone who has never played the game. It would literally make going anywhere in your main ship, a pointless exercise, leaving all trails filled with range Haulers. It is mind mindbogglingly stupid. Just fix the bugs, leave the ideas to someone with better knowledge of the game.
That's fair enough, though I think you're going to be disappointed in the long run, ED is well and truly on the gamey MMO path and I think you'll see more and more of this sort of thing with the game becoming the lore so to speak and there being no real distinction between either side of the forth wall. Most online games seem to take that approach.
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The forum already exploded after some FD change on the game (remembrer when the python was nerfed or the IA buffed ?
The point is the transfert price should be related to the assurance cost: 1% for the cheapest, 10% for the most expensive.
If you can afford a full A grade Anaconda, 10% would be peanuts in regard of the risk of paying the full assurance
I remember everything ! (or do I ... I can't remember)
Yaffle
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I am sure you're right. Fundamentally it's FD's decision, not mine. I do think it worthwhile us stating why we disagree with decisions though, and in the main this thread has been pretty civilised and constructive, with some thoughts why all three scenarios work (no transport, instant transport, transport plus delay).
Yes to module transfer
Yes to ship transfer
No not instant, it's unrealistic.
Yes to ship transfer
No not instant, it's unrealistic.
I feel that there is a potential for abuse with this system but i really like the idea. I hope that we are not allowed to transport ships with full cargo holds at least.
Yes to module transfer (maybe even instant)
Yes to ship transfer
No to instant ship transfer. This should be realistic
Yes to ship transfer
No to instant ship transfer. This should be realistic
Transport: yes!
Instantaneous: no, no, no, no, no, no. NO.
Instantaneous: no, no, no, no, no, no. NO.
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