4 Questions About Core Mining

I don't get it. 3 weeks ago I was able to core mine with success .. more or less. This time, I decided to go for Benitoit. Jumped into a "Hotspot", scanned about 30 rocks, - nothing. No cores. A complete waste of time.
 
I don't get it. 3 weeks ago I was able to core mine with success .. more or less. This time, I decided to go for Benitoit. Jumped into a "Hotspot", scanned about 30 rocks, - nothing. No cores. A complete waste of time.
Weird - I did just that at the weekend and found loads.

Maybe ... Monday Mining Nerf? ;)
 
I'm very confused. Few questions here:

- Is musgravite found in any Rocky rings or specifically in hotspots?
I'm currently parked outside a planet with Pristine Rocky rings. (There's a painite & platinum hotspot in it) If I go down into the ring, will I find musgravite? Or do I need to specifically find a hotspot?

- How do I actually find Musgravite hotspots?
I don't understand. Was Frontier's intention for me to actually fly around to different, countless systems with rocky rings and scan them for the odd chance of finding a hotspot? Unless I'm ignorant of something important, this is a really crazy, hopeless task right? This game has millions (billions?) of ringed planets. I can't just randomly fly to different systems hoping to come across a hotspot...or is that the intended design? There HAS to be an in-game method, a 3rd party tool, a list, or some meaningful way of finding musgravite hotspots.

- How common are Musgravite hotspots?
Are they rare? I've only scanned 2 rocky ring planets before I stepped back at the realization that I'd have to search countless systems. Is it not as mind-boggling hopeless as I think it is?

- Do Overlaps Matter for Core Mining as Much as Laser Mining?
Someone said overlaps matter to laser mining, but don't matter for core mining. Is this true/accurate?
"...core mining makes very little difference with over laps to cores after the FC updates"
"...over laps matter to laser mining"



Thank you for your time!
Dustin

So OK - this mat will pay circa 680k/t ...
but its core mining only in Only Rocky rings... You can't laser mine this mat.
Rocky rings have a lower yield than metallic rings per sec
So you would be better off mining something in those for a higher yield/roid...

That said - I've not found an answer to this question: Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/EliteMiners/comments/kxfxv3/has_anyone_foundlooked_into_a_difference_in_core/


I'm guessing the meta for this (assuming you only want to do core mining) is that rocky rings only spawn Musgravite, Monazite, Serendibite and Benitoite. These other mats are all high value materials so even if you find a core with something other than Musgravite, it will not be a bad deal.

But! Do the cores spawn at the same frequency (i.e. per roid per cubic km) in the these three ring types?

If cores in Rocky rings are half as frequent as metallic rings - it all evens out anyway!
 
Today I decided to give it another try. Same System, same ring. But another Hotspot (btw, that label is ridiculous) .. and yes, I'm using type A prospector limpets. So far 20 rocks scanned; but no cores. So, how can I coremine, when there are no core-mats inside the rocks at all?
 
Full disclosure: I just started mining like a week ago.

But just doing the napkin math...core mining isn't worth it when I can laser mine platinum so reliably and quickly.

I sat in a double Muskgravite Hotspot last night and couldn't find a single core. I was in solo so it's not that it was depleted either. This is just a waste of time right now now. They broke something.
 
Something is definitly broken. After 3 hours and 52 rocks scanned, I finally had found one with Monazit and one with Serendibit core. Frontier shouldn't call that Hotspot. "Maybe-or-maybe-not-Spot" should be the name. :mad:
 
I'm very confused. Few questions here:

- Is musgravite found in any Rocky rings or specifically in hotspots?
I'm currently parked outside a planet with Pristine Rocky rings. (There's a painite & platinum hotspot in it) If I go down into the ring, will I find musgravite? Or do I need to specifically find a hotspot?

- How do I actually find Musgravite hotspots?
I don't understand. Was Frontier's intention for me to actually fly around to different, countless systems with rocky rings and scan them for the odd chance of finding a hotspot? Unless I'm ignorant of something important, this is a really crazy, hopeless task right? This game has millions (billions?) of ringed planets. I can't just randomly fly to different systems hoping to come across a hotspot...or is that the intended design? There HAS to be an in-game method, a 3rd party tool, a list, or some meaningful way of finding musgravite hotspots.

- How common are Musgravite hotspots?
Are they rare? I've only scanned 2 rocky ring planets before I stepped back at the realization that I'd have to search countless systems. Is it not as mind-boggling hopeless as I think it is?

- Do Overlaps Matter for Core Mining as Much as Laser Mining?
Someone said overlaps matter to laser mining, but don't matter for core mining. Is this true/accurate?
"...core mining makes very little difference with over laps to cores after the FC updates"
"...over laps matter to laser mining"



Thank you for your time!
Dustin

all i know is you need medium Seismic charges, because trying to fit small ones will lead to a quest of misery and despair, but we live in hope that one day... we too can go core mining
 
Something is definitly broken. After 3 hours and 52 rocks scanned, I finally had found one with Monazit and one with Serendibit core. Frontier shouldn't call that Hotspot. "Maybe-or-maybe-not-Spot" should be the name. :mad:

You are finding the occasional core then, Core mining takes a lot of practice, you need a fast ship - a good pilot and and a first class MKI eyeball 😎

Fast, because even in a hotspot there are not vast quantities of Cores, Good piloting skills - speed inside an asteroid belt can lead to the rebuy screen very easily and you need to learn which glowing rocks are Cores and which are SD and SSD rocks, you then ignore the SD/SSD rocks and only target the Cores.

There is also another "style" of mining where we ignore the Cores and only target the SSD's, done in Tritium hotspots, for Tritium.
 
Other hotspots are available :) You should publish where you are so we can all have a laugh finding the cores you say are not there :ROFLMAO:
I know they are there. As I said, I found two. But 2 out of 50 is a very lame quota. But maybe you and Frontier are ok with that.
Anyhow. I had enough of this crap. But at least you had some fun, making jokes of frustated ppl.
 
Fly fast above the asteroid belt scanning with PWA, slow down before entering belt to investigate any of the better looking glowing rocks, its speed and practice that are required, or as I do most off the time - laser mine with the occasional ping and say thank you when I find one.

I do mainly Laser mining, using T9's, I also use a Krait MkII for Core mining and a Python for SSD Tritium mining, all ships are setup differently, but most are normally equipped to handle all types of rocks.
 
Fly fast above the asteroid belt scanning with PWA, slow down before entering belt to investigate any of the better looking glowing rocks, its speed and practice that are required, or as I do most off the time - laser mine with the occasional ping and say thank you when I find one.

I do mainly Laser mining, using T9's, I also use a Krait MkII for Core mining and a Python for SSD Tritium mining, all ships are setup differently, but most are normally equipped to handle all types of rocks.
yea, I might try again in 3 weeks or so. But my point is the quota. I'm pretty sure, 3 weeks ago, when I was coremining somewhere in the bubble, I have had a quota of 10 - 15 to 1 finding a rock with a core of any material. Of course, I expected more, when prospecting in a system outside the bubble. Or at least the same quota. Maybe there is problem with some belts, maybe its the randomizer-algorithm. Dunno. Frontier should look into that. But I guess, their focus is now totally on Odyssey shrug
 
Other hotspots are available :) You should publish where you are so we can all have a laugh finding the cores you say are not there :ROFLMAO:
I’m with doc eisen on the core mining being, well a scam. I have visited 4 seprate core hotspots, 1 of which of my own findings, and spent 2h in each. 3 of them not a single core astroid, even when I resorted to prospecting any yellow astroid. The 4th one I found 1 void opal core, and that is it.

I gave up and set up for laser mining platinium, and 2h later, I’m 300 million richer.

the thing is, it would also seem like the mining is biased towards laser mining anyway, i mean this is how the mechanics compare up:
core space rocks:
  1. once blown up, they take about a week to regenerate
  2. its state is serverwide, so once someone has blown it up, be in in open, private or solo, it disappears for everyone else.
  3. very RNG dependent, you can fly for hours on end without finding a single core astroid, or find mutiple back to back.
  4. not affect by resource extraction sites, or ring quality
now compare to laser mining space rocks:
  1. regens in 2-3h once mined
  2. not serverwide, so each player gets their own “instance“ of the astroidm which means that even if every single player laser mines a single astroid, it will give enough mats for each player to get the same amount.
  3. there is still some RNG, but the effect is much less since every space rock that you find in a pristine hotspot is open for mining, so if you find a space rock with no good resource, the space rock next to it would probably have a 60% platium/painite content.
  4. resource extraction sites gives fragment bounus, and is also affected by ring quality, with pristine being the best.
at this point I start to wonder what is the point of core mining, and why people are still defending core mining of all things .(I give you blowing up space rocks is certainly fun)
 
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yea, I might try again in 3 weeks or so. But my point is the quota. I'm pretty sure, 3 weeks ago, when I was coremining somewhere in the bubble, I have had a quota of 10 - 15 to 1 finding a rock with a core of any material. Of course, I expected more, when prospecting in a system outside the bubble. Or at least the same quota. Maybe there is problem with some belts, maybe its the randomizer-algorithm. Dunno. Frontier should look into that. But I guess, their focus is now totally on Odyssey shrug
There are a variety off things that affect the amount off Cores within a hotspot, First check within the system map to see the reserve level, best is Pristine, others are not really worth bothering with, then there is your location within the hotspot, normally the highest amount can be found nearer the centre of it but as with laser mining the quantities can vary from one area to another within the hotspot. Try moving location by either getting above the ring and boosting along for a few minutes or if you are not worried about NPC attacks low wake to another area within the hotspot.
 
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