Simple question... Why! Are they giving them for free?
If there is no motive, then why do it at all. If there is a motive, what is it?
400 ARX per week max - How Come?
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Simple question... Why! Are they giving them for free?
If there is no motive, then why do it at all. If there is a motive, what is it?
You do understand playing more costs FD money? And that buying skins gets them money, the only source of revenue from existing players? So that you are effectively asking why they don't want to go for a business model that promotes increased expenses and reduced income?
Because if you really can't answer that yourself I have a business proposal for you...
For the same reason KONAMI regularly gives players some coins in PES, but not an endless supply. It creates goodwill (among normal people, that is) while still earning piles via their store.
It is fun too see the difference in communities. On the one hand you have the 'entitled millenials' grateful for receiving a gift while understanding you need to pay money if you want more stuff. On the other hand are babyboomers endlessly moaning and whining about how they should get more for less, wondering why they don't get unlimited free stuff and so on. It's like a real-life comic book.
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How long does it take you today?
Wow, the amount of people creating a strawman by using the excuse that because the currency is "free". That, it negates the notion that people aren't allowed to feel dissatisfied with the arx cap or the time it will take to earn something, is ridiculous.
Also, the excuse of the cap being there because "they care" about you, is hilarious. How naive have you got to be, to come up with this nonsense.
Also, the excuse of the cap being there because "they care" about you, is hilarious. How naive have you got to be, to come up with this nonsense.
Lol, you can be as dissatisfied as you want about not getting more free stuff from a business, but that is as close to the definition of 'entitled' as you can get.
Getting free Arx for playing the game isn't there so everyone can get all of the cosmetics for free. It's there more as a bonus reward for playing the game.
Personally I like this change and I don't care whether I reach the limit each week or not. I'm going to continue to play the game as I normally do, which I admit is a lot because I love the game, and occasionally I might get a free cosmetic or a reduction in price for the cosmetics I normally buy. This is a win!
The game isn't doomed but with some of the reactions I've seen to free Arx I think the human race might be doomed...
Personally I like this change and I don't care whether I reach the limit each week or not. I'm going to continue to play the game as I normally do, which I admit is a lot because I love the game, and occasionally I might get a free cosmetic or a reduction in price for the cosmetics I normally buy. This is a win!
The game isn't doomed but with some of the reactions I've seen to free Arx I think the human race might be doomed...
If you work for money, how is that money "free"? If your not happy about something(even if it is free) you are not "entitled".Lol, you can be as dissatisfied as you want about not getting more free stuff from a business, but that is as close to the definition of 'entitled' as you can get.
If I mow your lawn for free and destroy it by reducing it to dirt, are you not allowed to be dissatisfied?
Using the "free" line is a marketing strategy for dumb people who cant see the forest for the trees.
For the same reason KONAMI regularly gives players some coins in PES, but not an endless supply. It creates goodwill (among normal people, that is) while still earning piles via their store.
It is fun too see the difference in communities. On the one hand you have the 'entitled millenials' grateful for receiving a gift while understanding you need to pay money if you want more stuff. On the other hand are babyboomers endlessly moaning and whining about how they should get more for less, wondering why they don't get unlimited free stuff and so on. It's like a real-life comic book.
Not at all.. I'm more wondering why we needed 'arx' in the first place. And why it's more important than giving us game content.
Lol, calling 'playing computer games' 'working for money'.
You were playing a computer game, now you are playing the same computer game while occasionally getting a free paint. Comparing that to 'destroying your lawn' is just so mind-boggingly insane... 
Thanks for picking one line and not reading all the text around it, good job.
Also, as an aside, Destiny's slot machine was one of those popular ones where you KNEW what you were getting, that was the very point of how it psychologically manipulated people. You could buy up to 7 additional spins every week, and each time would get one of the 8 listed items that you had not received before, the manipulation was precisely in the fact of KNOWING that if you just spent the money you'd eventually get the items you wanted from it. Thus it created the sense of investment with the first payout, in that now you KNEW you had better odds on the next spin. Thankfully it was the FIRST thing Bungie removed upon splitting with Activision.
For the people who actually read the full text of my post, (I'm going to generously assume you're just not good at reading full context, not deliberately disingenuous) the point was clearly that the entire point of businesses giving away "free" stuff has, for roughly the last 5000 years, been to tempt people to spend their actual money. There's a calculation in there. Frontier's financial team have done the maths. You give away a certain amount with the expectation of a specific minimum amount of profit which will be generated by people developing a sense of investment and wishing to pay a bit more to get the rest of what they couldn't get with the single freebie. Because there's a well known psychological effect.
When you add this on top of a shift from a system where the purchasable currency had a 1:1 exchange ratio to a real world currency where you could easily track the values of stuff, and in which the purchasable items' costs tracked easily to whole fractions of that - to one where the exchange rate is arbitrary, this raises legitimate concerns, based on what it usually entails in all other cases ever observed of publishers doing this. Not to mention for PC users, shifting from actual real money transactions to selling a virtual currency is a technique used to inflate a company's balance, because players pay up front for virtual currency, which they then do not necessarily spend right away, but instead that money is sitting earning interest in Frontier's accounts, not theirs.
The "Free" Arx, at their most generous interpretation, exist to provide a buffer of sorts to this scummy practice of arbitrary fake-currency values. If something you want would require purchasing two Arx bundles to get the extra 1000 or so Arx you'd need to afford it, this can offset that. This is a good thing for players who were already willing to spend more money on the game than simply the cost of the core game and expansions. I count myself among these, but I recognise that there are other types of people.
But Frontier is first and foremost a BUSINESS. So they'd not choose to implement something which potentially reduces their sales of the bundles without doing the calculations beforehand, and predicting that overall, this would increase sales of those bundles, by pushing people who have bought stuff with the free ones, or are saving them to be able to afford something, to then spend money they might not have otherwise chosen to, because of how long it'd take to save up for the next thing they'd like, as now they have a sense of having an amount saved up towards it. And there is the "nudge".
At the end of the day it's all about understanding the psychology of purchasing, and using it to optimise profits. It always is. And that is why this kind of thing is always rightfully under scrutiny. No matter how it happens to be implemented in any individual case. No matter what the track record of the business is. No matter how much people trust the one telling them all about it. It always has to be.
Any stipend of a game's real money currency with a subscription is never "Free". You literally pay for it with the subscription fee.
Anyone who does not take this into account when doing the maths on what they're getting for their money with a sub is exactly the kind of rube they're looking to exploit the naïveté of.
This. ED has no subscription, the more existing players play the game the higher the expenses of FD. This is offset by new players and the cosmetics store. Free Arx are a 'goodwill gift' they no doubt hope to earn back by enticing a number of people to also buy a paint or two after spending their free credit. Its the digital version of a free sample, a sales tactic used for literally thousands of years. They allow individual paints to be bought, which is in our advantage, but via packs, which they hope entices people to spend more on a collection of individual paints as compared with buying sets of paints directly. Some people will get some free stuff while spending nothing, some will spend the same while getting more of what they want, others will spend more than they used to. That is pretty much it, beyond the parts where quality is supposedly improving and we can better see how things look on ships before we buy it.
As for people arguing other games give you more free stuff after giving them a monthly fee; they are... confused about what 'free' means. To them I offer a variety of free products, including free shipping. Just let me know how much free stuff you want and I'll work out a price.
At worst it’s a marketing ploy to grease the wheels a little to get people who aren’t interacting with the store,involved.
I still can't get my head around the negativity - of course 'free' arx is there to encourage one to buy further cosmetics, but one is not being forced to do so, they are only vanity items and certainly don't give any advantage in actual game play, is there a reliance on 'weakness' to force folk to buy a vanity item?
As for the doom-mongers extrapolating actual 'pay-to-win' goodies appearing in the store, wake up - there is no 'end-game' to win, everything in game can be acquired in game...
As for the doom-mongers extrapolating actual 'pay-to-win' goodies appearing in the store, wake up - there is no 'end-game' to win, everything in game can be acquired in game...
I wonder how many takers they’d get if there was an option to opt out?
Your sense of entitlement is breathtaking. Today you get nothing. You want the cosmetic? You pay.
If you 2 choices: carry on as you are, pay or get nothing, or pay as normal, but get some free tokens over time just for being there, which would you choose?
Please note: I'm entitled and want everything for free, right now is not an option on the table. Just one of the two choices above.
So which?
I thought he was talking about daises
I wonder how many takers they’d get if there was an option to opt out?
Err, the store is opt-in, you can simply conjure the magical power not to click on that button...
I wonder how many takers they’d get if there was an option to opt out?
And go back to just buying what I want when I want without having to wonder if I'm being ripped off with ARX packs? I'd be first in that Queue. As it is, I'll now igonore them completely.