Modes 5 minutes in Open...

[Gédéon_Lecanard]

Then play in solo or mobius, I have no issues with PvE only players if that's what they enjoy but playing in open and cheating cannot be approved. I am no fan of murder hobos but Fdev has stated they are a valid play style.

I'm not more PvE than PvP, I play in open. I enjoy the occasional fight, and actually did my share for a while. I just can't be bothered with the average griefer cursed with the eloquence of a dead moth. So I use an implemented mechanic to avoid making my playtime a pain. Other than that, I do pvp, and have no problem losing ships into a fight, even a totally unfair one.

Even then, if I have a bounty or some cargo, or playing for the opposite power (I don't PP but you get the point), don't chat, it's fine, there's some logic.

 

[S~P]

I got ganked a week or so ago, joined Mobius so no more griefers for me! I've seen maybe 3 or 4 other cmdrs in Mobius and they all o7 to me which is great. Not going back to open anymore that's for sure, sticking with Private group from now on, which is a shame as I did like playing in open until all the griefers pretty much taking over open now.

 

[Goblin949]

I always wondered why so few people reply to my o7s.

From my inattentive experience it's because they are busy trading and missioning at the mission board, or they have a different tab selected in the comms, and your message disappears too fast, or they are already jumping out, etc. and have no time to reply. Or simply they don't know what's o7!

 

[Willa Allason]

Over 1000 hours in open, I've never been attacked by a player, including many CGs. I think I must be living a charmed life.

The current Beta is a different story - what a gank fest lol!

 

[Arry]

Then play in solo or mobius, I have no issues with PvE only players if that's what they enjoy but playing in open and cheating cannot be approved. I am no fan of murder hobos but Fdev has stated they are a valid play style.

....and cheating?? You not quoting or referring to anything I have said or done.

I fly where I am comfortable and with about 180 re-buys for my Cobras and about 18 in my FDL, I have no problems or issues with losing either. 90% plus of the humans I meet in open, are all OK guys and girls. Every now and then; dependent on where I am, I meet an idiot. This is not something I come here to complain about, it is part of the entertainment; but I agree, with those that find it puerile, childish and often, contemptuous.

 

[Goblin949]

I got ganked a week or so ago, joined Mobius so no more griefers for me! I've seen maybe 3 or 4 other cmdrs in Mobius and they all o7 to me which is great. Not going back to open anymore that's for sure, sticking with Private group from now on, which is a shame as I did like playing in open until all the griefers pretty much taking over open now.

And I got ganked yesterday (see my very first post on the forum on page 8, which have finally went through moderation), staying in the open, so maybe more griefers, but I'm sure I will meet far more often just peaceful cmdrs. Not going to solo or mobius that's for sure, sticking with open from the beginning and see no overtaking by griefers... wait, what griefers, was it just one gank and you call this a grief?

find it puerile, childish and often, contemptuous

An online game, who would thought.

 

[Threeofseven]

....and cheating?? You not quoting or referring to anything I have said or done.

I fly where I am comfortable and with about 180 re-buys for my Cobras and about 18 in my FDL, I have no problems or issues with losing either. 90% plus of the humans I meet in open, are all OK guys and girls. Every now and then; dependent on where I am, I meet an idiot. This is not something I come here to complain about, it is part of the entertainment; but I agree, with those that find it puerile, childish and often, contemptuous.

Not you. I was referring to another cmdr who said he combat logs when he did not like the interaction.

 

[Vandaahl]

Not you. I was referring to another cmdr who said he combat logs when he did not like the interaction.

No he did not, he logged off using the menu. Which is, according to Frontier, a graceful way of exiting the game. In other words, as much game as the yolo crowd clubbing seals.

 

[Noctover]

not everyone has the time. i do (i'm happily retired!) but i just can't be bothered to waste it waiting for absurd uss to spawn just so i can do some pvp, life is too precious. luckily i have many other games for that. as much as i love elite and pvp, elite is just not good pvp for me.

but i'll keep an eye on "escape from tarkov". thanks for the heads up!

Community can be toxic, but if you just play the game you never interact with them other than at barrels end where the interaction belongs.

I can put the time in, and i agree with you i cannot be bothered to put the effort in to being THAT engineered because the system to get there is too long winded and contrived for my liking, but i do however acknowledge the fact that if being so outmatched bothered me, that is an option.

 

[jasonbirder]

I wasn't aware of any circumstances under which exiting a game is considered "cheating"
Combat logging via disconnect/hard re-set is a very inelegant way of dealing with this kind of interaction - as it gives the social inadequate you're dealing with a momentary feeling of "superiority" - don't feed their pathetic fantasies!
Menu logging on the other hand is perfectly legitimate and obviously it enables you to continue your activity in Private/solo without interruption...
Generally as this kind of individual will only be encountered very briefly when you're inbound to a CG or an Engineer you don't have to continue in Private/Solo for very long....

 

[Vasious]

I find it amazing with all the 5 minutes in open and I get killed threads, there is always another Cmdr in the same system as them at the right time.

I mean no context given, could be in a CG system or engineer or what not

But it is ways the way.
Years not in OPEN, and the moment in Open another rplayer.
I am in Open 99% of the time and out side CGs it is never just a 5 minute wait to run into another Cmdr

 

[Anopheles]

Space is dark and full of terror. As It should be. I know if what I speak, being one.

 

[Phisto Sobanii]

Space is dark and full of terror. As It should be. I know if what I speak, being one.

Too easy to forget space is disease and danger wrapped in darkness and silence.

 

[Vandaahl]

Menu logging on the other hand is perfectly legitimate and obviously it enables you to continue your activity in Private/solo without interruption...
Generally as this kind of individual will only be encountered very briefly when you're inbound to a CG or an Engineer you don't have to continue in Private/Solo for very long....

Yeah, but content providers just don't like getting this kind of content provided back to them. Its like the guys minding their business suddenly run into guys minding their own business, instead of minding 'their' business. You know...

 

[Anopheles]

I wasn't aware of any circumstances under which exiting a game is considered "cheating"
Combat logging via disconnect/hard re-set is a very inelegant way of dealing with this kind of interaction - as it gives the social inadequate you're dealing with a momentary feeling of "superiority" - don't feed their pathetic fantasies!
Menu logging on the other hand is perfectly legitimate and obviously it enables you to continue your activity in Private/solo without interruption...
Generally as this kind of individual will only be encountered very briefly when you're inbound to a CG or an Engineer you don't have to continue in Private/Solo for very long....

Assuming someone who as different aims in the game from you is socially inadequate is low.

 

[krylite]

Yeah I hear you, especially at engineer systems where griefers who've already ganked their modules are basically like throwing rocks at others just trying to progress their own ships at the engineers.

If in open I often use my cutter to travel to engineer systems sometimes to engineer a module intended for use in another type of ship. And there are still idjits who are shooting reverb torpedoes at my cutter from ambush just as I'm boosting from the engineer base (or any ground base that happens to be in a popular event system at the moment).

Hopefully the new C&P with 3.0 sorts some of this lowlife droog behavior for systems with security.

 

[wrmiller]

I got ganked a week or so ago, joined Mobius so no more griefers for me! I've seen maybe 3 or 4 other cmdrs in Mobius and they all o7 to me which is great. Not going back to open anymore that's for sure, sticking with Private group from now on, which is a shame as I did like playing in open until all the griefers pretty much taking over open now.

Mostly solo player here, but I do play in Mobius PvE at least a couple of times a week. As I hang my hat a Jameson I see lots of open squares, sometimes too many.

The other night I arrived home, had just dropped out of SC and noticed one lone open square. Who promptly started trying to maneuver behind me?!? So I thought, OK, I'll play along. Scanned the ship and it turned out to be a Vulture. Master or something. After a half dozen or so attempts to get behind me he gave me a o7 and headed towards the station. I guess he just wanted to see if he could get behind a Corvette? No harm, no foul. Sent a o7 back at him and tail-gated him all the way into the station.

That's about all the 'interaction' I need from players in this game.

 

[Azamo]

Problem with open is players get their rocks off killing other players. They attack because they know that their is another person that will be mad/sad/unhappy that they just lost their spaceship. Easy fix to this is make it so you can't tell who is a human or a NPC. It would eliminate most of these blood thirsty attacks. Then open would have a lot more people in it and a lot less grief.

 

[Paidtodrive]

Back in the day when warp tech wasn't as good your ship would come in at the edge of the system and you'd point towards the star and torus 'jump' inwards. I always remember feeling twitchy when it cut out and another ship slunk out of the darkness and passed by. Will they turn and open fire once they get on your rear or just keep going. Hell some crazy pilots used to activate warp once the station auto pilot kicked in and jump straight into their next destination to avoid getting hijacked.

It's a nasty galaxy. Strange thing is the game is made that way. I get jumped constantly by rival faction NPC's in the systems I'm in. The usual message " Mmm fat cargo... Give me x thousand credits..." mostly I don't even have much on me yet still they open fire and keep blasting til I bug out or the feds arrive or I suck vac and go for a rebuy. Half the time they don't even wait for their own "10 seconds and I'll open fire". Average cobra with a proudly mostly harmless pilot gets hammered by vulture/python/fdl/conda. Avoiding the initial interdiction is actually quite easy but once you've low waked it's like blood in the water for sharks, they soon catch up and it's shoot on sight. Mega inconvenient as you are trying to align that salvage black box bouncing off the upper atmosphere/gravity well of a nearby planet.

Don't mind the rebuy, I'm slowly getting the hang of combat and of boosting away and high waking. Maybe one day I'll have a super cool ship with ultra killozap weapons but till then I'll keep my head down. I will be bloody furious when I get done over by someone real, but they'll be bottom of my list, still working on getting back at all the NPC's who got me first. This is Elite. Open or solo the game has your number and is coming for you. Don't be surprised just be prepared. If I'm close by call for help, you can have a good laugh watching me get blown up, again. Peace dudes.

 

[jasonbirder]

Assuming someone who as different aims in the game from you is socially inadequate is low

I'm open to being corrected...feel free to explain to me how a mature, balanced, socially-well adjusted individual would choose to attack with no communication (or no substantive communication) another CMDR that offers them no-in game benefit (monetary/cargo/PP/advancing their PC-Minor Faction etc) AND no "meaningful gaming experience (PvP against a combat equipped ship)...
I can't contextualise one...to me it seems most likely the action of someone either actually or merely emotionally immature OR acting out a frustration (financial/employment/residential situation, relationship/lack of relationship, bullied/lack of attention/perceived lack of respect) or perhaps low self-esteem issues etc etc
But I COULD be wrong...feel free to explain it to me