Marx didn't show that at all. Have you read much Marx? His main points were that the individual had to own the product of their labor to be fulfilled, that the world was causally determined, and that history was a progressive march towards his ideal society of whip wielding freeloaders lashing at the backs of the proletariat. That last part might be a slight addition.
Marx didn't show that at all. Have you read much Marx? His main points were that the individual had to own the product of their labor to be fulfilled, that the world was causally determined, and that history was a progressive march towards his ideal society of whip wielding freeloaders lashing at the backs of the proletariat. That last part might be a slight addition.
This is what happens when your entire view on Ayn Rand is based on grabbing occasional wicki entries written by left leaning Rand haters and listening to the leftist artiste' crowd discuss her works over their triple no fat soy lattes at the local bistro (along with their "feelings"). Hank Rearden, who is being quoted there, has absolutely vile ideas about his own and other peoples sexual desires/proclivities based on a lifetime of emotional abuse from the hands of spiritualists integrated into the fabric of society, including his own wife who's entire purpose for marrying him was in order to emotionally emasculate him, as well as utterly poison the very foundation of his own strict code of morality. This "poison" is demonstrated clearly in that speech to the woman Dagny Taggart (who serves as the main protagonist throughout the story), and they go on to clarify their love for one another until he eventually throws himself at her feet and begs for forgiveness for how he spoke to her in that scenario.
Ayn used her characters as devices to introduce various arguments, and this was one such argument; how Hank spoke to Dagny was essentially the literal opposite of how she felt it should be between a man and a woman, and the quoted conversation was an example on how Ayn felt people were being taught to view the desires of their flesh. But see, you would have to actually read the book in its entirety and with an open mind to understand that.
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Peculiar how often these types of stories pop up for the blatant toxicity in Open being such a "myth", isn't it?
It's not a myth it's a game so it's all fake so it doesnt matter at all:x[haha]
Marx understood that growth and therefore some form of profit, was unavoidable. The issue was, who controlled the growth and who gained from the profits; which most of the time were the same few individuals and at the expense of the many. He agreed with Orwell, that some men are more equal, than others. The human condition makes equality impossible.
Knuckle draggers, aren't they
The moment economists show up as a profession in Elite is the moment I'll fit guns to my ship and go on a spree.What are you nerds going on about in here?
Show up for the space sim nerds, stay for the economics nerds.
Present company excluded of course [where is it]
I had to rep you for the no fat soy lattes. Made me gag just reading it.
I did read most of it but never finished it years ago. Sorry, glad you got something out of it but I found it shallow and trashy. And I like real trashy stuff. Hell I think "Faster, P*ssycat! Kill! Kill!" is the height of militant feminist cinema.
Let's be honest. We all find a philosophy or belief system that fits, or justifies, our "feelings" and actions. This just ain't the one for me. But I did like the sex in 'The Fountainhead', so it's not all bad.
And why the quotation marks on feelings? You said ol' horny Hank and Dagny (Dagny? Now that's a leftist name if I ever heard one) fell in love and all was forgiven. Isn't love a feeling?
I have to go now. My organic tofu and seaweed pizza is ready.
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Oh, I think it's perfectly alright to have feelings, it's just that the crowd I meant to disparage has little else to judge the events of the real world with outside of them, therefore I'm a bit critical of that demographic. I'm a little too butch for that kind of self fappery, tbh.
Edit: Wait, did you say organic tofu and seaweed? That actually sounds pretty yummy...
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Economics...never! We're just philosophizin' some out on the porch.
It isn't that we love talking about people and things that are irrelevant, but rather we discuss among ourselves the puzzling phenomena of peoples' continuing obsession with ideas proven to be bad, such as unchecked, unmitigated, unhinged capitalism, and the myth that economies are self-regulating to about the same extent as a boiler with a broken release valve. To further that point, no actually, she didn't know much about economy or production or government's rightful role in those enterprises. She ignored the necessity of public investiture in "large, expensive, dangerous, projects of unknown risk," to quote Dr. Tyson. It's plainly obvious that her economic opinions were informed by her personal life, tastes, and wants, instead of any seriously considered economic policy or system of policies.
To further this point even more, consider its name: "Objectivism." Really? Objectivism? Instead of giving her philosophy a name taken from its central thesis--such as existentialism pondering existence, nihilism pondering (literally) nothingness, communism and its focus on community, and even capitalism with its focus on capital (see a trend yet?)--she chose the vanity of claiming objectivity. Objectivism, as if all other economic ideas and philosophies--all philosophies, really--were not objective. See the problem? This is just the name, like naming the worst street in town "Pleasant Street." If you need to name it so, it probably isn't, and if she needed to claim objectivism... you know how it goes. It is downright Orwellian in its inversion.
Oh, Ayn Rand's ideas were terrible. She was terrible. Terrible ideas the product of the terrible mind of a terrible person who treated people terribly. She was a sadist. Great writer, yes, a great story teller. But stories. Just stories.
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I bet the mods seriously wish that I would just for the love of all that's holy put my Archer avatar back on!
Warm, you are wrong about everything
Warm, you are wrong about everything
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I bet the mods seriously wish that I would just for the love of all that's holy put my Archer avatar back on!
Warm, you are wrong about everything
This was a disappointingly short rebuttal.
What is there to rebut? Capitalism has been the root of the greatest prosperity on earth; no other system even remotely come close. His opinion about Ayn Rand is subjective and hateful, without fact or substance.
Plus, I was trying to keep from wandering even further off topic with a bunch of wannabe socialists.
Ooooh touchy
But facebook is the place for such arguing really I just like watching people try to defend it all without compromising it.
Ooooh touchy
But facebook is the place for such arguing really I just like watching people try to defend it all without compromising it.
It's funny; an avatar of Ayn Rand triggers some people more than a casual disparagement of PG's by a PvPer, something I thought would have been impossible up until I switched from Archer
I've become the perfect weapon!
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I have 80 hours played, all in open and I've never been interdicted by a human player.
You can't photoshop a stache in there? Just for me? For old time's sake?It's funny; an avatar of Ayn Rand triggers some people more than a casual disparagement of PG's by a PvPer, something I thought would have been impossible up until I switched from Archer
I've become the perfect weapon!
Pweaeaeaeaese? [heart]