What he said. It's simple and no one in this game has any business complaining that they lost a ship. It's their own fault that they can't afford to replace it. Not to mention, the insurance to fully replace is exceptionally low.
8.5m Cr ship loss - 30+ hours wasted - discuss!
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What he said. It's simple and no one in this game has any business complaining that they lost a ship. It's their own fault that they can't afford to replace it. Not to mention, the insurance to fully replace is exceptionally low.
I vote no. I don't want anything to be done about it. I WANT to have to be responsible for my own failings, even if it costs me everything.
+1 for Space Mafioso and Loan Sharks.
Its A GAME If i wanted real life levels of realism I'd focus on real life! What I want is to explore a virtual universe and not have to expend hundreds of hours just because the minority of no lifer trolls want it that way. Gaming is a hobby that should not punish you in RL terms or time to satisfy a small minority.
I feel you pain. I just a lost a fully laden Type-6 about an hour ago crashing into a bit of a station. I could afford my rebuy insurance and got my Type-6 back immediately but lost over 600000 worth of cargo. Many hours of grinding wiped away in an instant.
For a hauler, it's not just the value of the ship that can potentially get lost, but also the value of the capital investment you've put into a your cargo. It takes over half a million credits to fill a hold of Type-6 for a maximised profit/efficiency trading run, so even if you can afford your rebuy insurance if you don't have enough money to fill your hold you're ability to earn credits tanks regardless.
For a hauler, it's not just the value of the ship that can potentially get lost, but also the value of the capital investment you've put into a your cargo. It takes over half a million credits to fill a hold of Type-6 for a maximised profit/efficiency trading run, so even if you can afford your rebuy insurance if you don't have enough money to fill your hold you're ability to earn credits tanks regardless.
Did you try to deselect modules to lower the rebuy cost?
Yes the cost of just the ship was more then the loan cost, hence this topic.
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Lets get back on topic, for all those who either didn't read or misread my points:
1) I dont want reduced insurance costs, id be happy to pay more if you could pay the re buy cost in advance!
2) I think the order and way insurance is handled could be done better, you are only informed of short funding after death by which point you cant do anything about it!
3) a simple warning when trying to launch if you don't have the funds to cover re buy would solve ALL of these threads (at least those with validity)
MACMAN86
Banned
Sorry mate. If it helps, if your upgrade was not one of the standard part upgrades which get listed on the re-buy screen then you are stuck buying your ship back with the upgrade (e,g. non-compatible FSD) so you would lose money in trying to buy it back by insurance. The only way out of this is to begin again in the Sidewinder or swap to another ship you own. SUCKS!
Well unfortunately its tough luck.
I guess some kind of minor ship rebuy should be implemented. Something alternative in between whatever ship one got and the sidewinder. Lose an Asp and you get a Cobra. Lose a T9 and you get a T7, lose a T7 and you get a T6 etc.
Its hard to blame the game mechanics tho. You knew you bought an expensive module, you didnt check etc etc.
With that said, its not that hard to recover 8.5m.
I guess some kind of minor ship rebuy should be implemented. Something alternative in between whatever ship one got and the sidewinder. Lose an Asp and you get a Cobra. Lose a T9 and you get a T7, lose a T7 and you get a T6 etc.
Its hard to blame the game mechanics tho. You knew you bought an expensive module, you didnt check etc etc.
With that said, its not that hard to recover 8.5m.
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Today this no life troll will spend maybe an hour playing this game, in between work, family, powerlifting training and picking up the guitar to pratice the piece I'm working on. Your not going win anyone to your side of the debate with phrasing like that.
Counting up the post seems like a majority of repondants want it the way it is. Currently you're part of the minority opinion.
Not being funny but how do you manage to survive in real life?
Like dealing with having to 'not spend money all your money' in order to pay bills/food etc... how do you cope? =(
Is it? I'm not talking about the right-hand holographic panel, but the information displayed about a ship in the shipyard before you hit the purchase button. I've just had another look and I can't see the insurance displayed there.
MACMAN86
Banned
Correct. Threaded already.
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=88571
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=88571
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It needs a babbling computer voice that tells you before you take off "you have x points left on your licence" or "You do not have enough cash to insure your ship" 
I am only kidding. Although the loss is bad and I feel for you, there are indicators, but it couldn't hurt that you get a message before take off that you are in risk due to insufficient funds. Then you can acknowledge the message and tick the little option to say don't tell me again.
I think if there are a few more messages like this for noobs, it would help. i.e. if you cargo scoop something in space, a message to tell you that "picking up anything in space is a crime and the goods are marked as stolen". You tick the don't show this message again option and you have learned an important rule without destroying the game mechanics.
A few more messages like that would help ease people into the rules that can be somewhat obscure and get them to understand the law of the land.
Bill D
I am only kidding. Although the loss is bad and I feel for you, there are indicators, but it couldn't hurt that you get a message before take off that you are in risk due to insufficient funds. Then you can acknowledge the message and tick the little option to say don't tell me again.
I think if there are a few more messages like this for noobs, it would help. i.e. if you cargo scoop something in space, a message to tell you that "picking up anything in space is a crime and the goods are marked as stolen". You tick the don't show this message again option and you have learned an important rule without destroying the game mechanics.
A few more messages like that would help ease people into the rules that can be somewhat obscure and get them to understand the law of the land.
Bill D
It needs a babbling computer voice that tells you before you take off "you have x points left on your licence" or "You do not have enough cash to insure your ship"
I am only kidding. Although the loss is bad and I feel for you, there are indicators, but it couldn't hurt that you get a message before take off that you are in risk due to insufficient funds. Then you can acknowledge the message and tick the little option to say don't tell me again.(...)
Actually, that is a good idea, maybe it will stop some kids from moaning....
ohh wait... they never listen/learn do they?
If you really get that confused between real life and a game, you should seek psychiatric help!
