A Guide to Minor Factions and the Background Sim

thx for the confirmation. would it matter if say, we hit 68% and carried on doing mission so the next tick we were over 80?
No, not at all. You'd get the war pending, you'd build up even more margin to win it. You wouldn't get the expansion pending until the war was over, and you'd need to be still above 75% to get that.
 
what are the down sides to getting influence so fast you expand before you've taken a station?
Very few.

The only immediate downside may be that if you go pending conflict for control on day 3 pending expansion so the conflict for control triggers active the same day as the expansion it will fail the expansion in favor of the conflict.

An annoying downside might be that you'll go pending conflict on day 1 or 2 of the pending expansion, forcing the expansion to annoyingly wait till the conflict for control is over - otherwise it'll just be a normal expansion.

Other than that... nothing really, if you can keep your influence above 60% by the time the active expansion ends you'll still be in a position to attempt to take over the system when the controlling faction is free.
 
Does it only take 1 day at 65-79% to trigger the control war? (assuming the controlling faction is free)
It follows the normal conflict rules, so it'll be 3 days pending then fighting time - the normal 3 day minimum for that winning gap and changeover on day 4 active for the fast run.

Its a 1 day recovery for Civil Wars and Wars, but 2 day recovery for Elections - perhaps that's what you are thinking? If you have a secondary fight where you skyrocket in influence before claiming control of the system you'll need to wait a day or two depending ont he conflict before you can attempt to fight the controlling faction if your influence is high enough.
 
Thanks for all your great advice as we start out on our pmf journey!
Day 2 and we have an election! Is it non combat missions? and as much inf+++ as you can get?
 
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Thanks for all your great advice as we start out on our pmf journey!
Day 2 and we have an election! Is it non combat missions? and as much inf+++ as you can get?
Yes.

Combat missions are non-combat activities, so they count in elections but not in wars (though any secondary effects of them like getting bounties or bonds to hand in are combat activities and count in wars but not elections)

While the election is only Pending, both combat and non-combat activities count normally, so pile on that influence however you like.
 
Very few.

The only immediate downside may be that if you go pending conflict for control on day 3 pending expansion so the conflict for control triggers active the same day as the expansion it will fail the expansion in favor of the conflict.

An annoying downside might be that you'll go pending conflict on day 1 or 2 of the pending expansion, forcing the expansion to annoyingly wait till the conflict for control is over - otherwise it'll just be a normal expansion.

Other than that... nothing really, if you can keep your influence above 60% by the time the active expansion ends you'll still be in a position to attempt to take over the system when the controlling faction is free.

I've heard conflicts dont fail expansions anymore if they are due to go active the same day, expansion stays pending until conflict clears
 
I've heard conflicts dont fail expansions anymore if they are due to go active the same day, expansion stays pending until conflict clears

How recent is your information? I used conflicts to cancel two expansions in late March. From what I've read, another was cancelled in early April.
 
o7 CMDR, as I´m new into BGS, i would like to know

When is the refreshing of the System state (the percentige of influence in the System)

Sorry for this question, i didn`t found it in the BGS guide i have.

Thx to all
 
o7 CMDR, as I´m new into BGS, i would like to know

When is the refreshing of the System state (the percentige of influence in the System)

Sorry for this question, i didn`t found it in the BGS guide i have.

Thx to all

12.45 ish in game time. Check sticky thread called “ what is the tick?”
 
Yes.

Combat missions are non-combat activities, so they count in elections but not in wars (though any secondary effects of them like getting bounties or bonds to hand in are combat activities and count in wars but not elections)

While the election is only Pending, both combat and non-combat activities count normally, so pile on that influence however you like.
Soooo...during an election, does that mean gaining fines/bounties on yourself from interdiction/shooting (but not killing) don't count either? What about getting a fine for having illegal goods and getting scanned?
 
Soooo...during an election, does that mean gaining fines/bounties on yourself from interdiction/shooting (but not killing) don't count either? What about getting a fine for having illegal goods and getting scanned?

I'm pretty sure that you personally will get fined or a bounty on your head when doing what you described. Live Elections only prevent that anything combat related has an impact on the % of a MF (Murder etc.) but doesn't exclude you as Player from anything in that regard.
 
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Soooo...during an election, does that mean gaining fines/bounties on yourself from interdiction/shooting (but not killing) don't count either? What about getting a fine for having illegal goods and getting scanned?
Fines used to count. It was removed due to being exploited. It was too easy to tank a faction by loading up on biowaste and dumping it just outside their station - earning a small fine per can. So now they just cost you credits and reputation.
 

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Fines used to count. It was removed due to being exploited. It was too easy to tank a faction by loading up on biowaste and dumping it just outside their station - earning a small fine per can. So now they just cost you credits and reputation.


Still works as a generalised expression of displeasure though.
 
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I've heard conflicts dont fail expansions anymore if they are due to go active the same day, expansion stays pending until conflict clears

So, given that provoking a well-timed conflict was the only reliable / possible way of stopping an Expansion once it went Pending, can we now assume that once an Expansion goes Pending, it's a done deal / the faction expanding will get their target system?

(I have a very expansionist PMF on the edge of the area I work in - in two cases I've nuked their Influence down into the 30s between Pending and Active and they've still suceeded. To say I was ::unprintable:: would be an understatement, but I'm told this is normal behaviour...)
 
So, given that provoking a well-timed conflict was the only reliable / possible way of stopping an Expansion once it went Pending, can we now assume that once an Expansion goes Pending, it's a done deal / the faction expanding will get their target system?

(I have a very expansionist PMF on the edge of the area I work in - in two cases I've nuked their Influence down into the 30s between Pending and Active and they've still suceeded. To say I was ::unprintable:: would be an understatement, but I'm told this is normal behaviour...)

Correct, once an expansion goes pending, it's gonna happen. They can't technically "target" a system though.
 
can I coax those with questions into looking at the rest of the BGS subforum

eg.

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/400110-Don-t-Panic-BGS-guides-and-help

Apart from anything else - your replies can be more easily indexed into Walter2's fabulous FAQs

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10iKMPhmggDDgxifrlluWim313KUhQ7CEIbOzRyT-DvQ/edit#gid=0
The main reason I post a question here instead of a separate post, is some of my questions don't seem "worthy" of a separate thread. Maybe it's time to lock this one (up to Walt)?
 
Correct, once an expansion goes pending, it's gonna happen. They can't technically "target" a system though.

Ahem....

That's debatable.

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