Notice A statement on cheating in Elite Dangerous.
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Of course and I had indicated in my post : "However, no misunderstanding, all the pirates and the criminals in the game are not cheaters, of course."
But ...
... there should be extreme vetting of pirates and criminals?
Difficult to take this kind of initiative only based on psychological criteria, for sure.
There would be a form of segregation for sure.
No politics on the forums.
My post originally was tinged with humor.
The question could be legitimate but it was not the purpose to make a politics.
Of course and I had indicated in my post : "However, no misunderstanding, all the pirates and the criminals in the game are not cheaters, of course."
But ...
You signaling them out for special attention is the problem, buddy.
After he threw his position into reverski.
How can FDev possible know that a very small percentage of players cheat? That seem impossible. You don't know what you don't know - so how can you possibly know if someone is cheating if they fool your "tools."
As I said in the other post, I've seen these hacks for years - and the same users on the cheat forums using them for years without so much as a shadow ban (you can tell by seeing the number of folks that wait for the cheat developers to update the cheats after every update)
I'd say the evidence I've seen with my very eyes (and this is what other players complain) disprove FDev's claim that the population is small and they are 'constantly' working on it. I say the cheat engine has them entirely fooled and they have no idea how bad bots/cheating are currently.
As I said in the other post, I've seen these hacks for years - and the same users on the cheat forums using them for years without so much as a shadow ban (you can tell by seeing the number of folks that wait for the cheat developers to update the cheats after every update)
I'd say the evidence I've seen with my very eyes (and this is what other players complain) disprove FDev's claim that the population is small and they are 'constantly' working on it. I say the cheat engine has them entirely fooled and they have no idea how bad bots/cheating are currently.
I get the impression that some here believe Elite Dangerous is about these groups, the streaming, the discords and forums and what they care about. I think it's more of a general video game that the developers have to support with the notion that one voice isn't more important than the next, a customer is a customer and a user is a user. That's why I think they approach it from a more clinical perspective. They have rules and procedures, they follow them. We sometimes want exceptions and they cannot take community tide movement as a wind vane for how they need to proceed.
I don't think anyone not violating rules should have any communication about someone else who was and was dealt with. It's not the same as having a game related issue like a bug or something. It would be more like seeing someone shoplift or some cashier gifting things to their friends while you wait in line. You can report it, but they won't get back to you with updates on who was punished and how.
No I didn't mean to quote someone else. You're basically saying there are cheaters in the game and FD needs to do something about it. As an example, you mention a known cheater who was banned. If you have evidence the individual was cheating before that instance, have you presented it to FDev? If you don't, then as far as you know, the instance where the cheater was actually cheating resulted in a ban.
The rest seems to be paranoia about this nebulous cheater base who needs to be dealt with in a nebulous way, just something to mitigate the feeling of impropriety you might feel while playing. You're not offering any real suggestions, and the magical "algorithm" solution is handwavium.
Many here called the guy a hero and really looked up to him for griefing openly then recently it seems reports surfaced that he cheated for months prior to this. Is he still a hero? Can I steal from you for years then become your hero by showing you how easy you can be robbed so you can finally increase your security?
I thought about this and decided they don't want to support it. If anything you decided to select caused you to not see enemies or read text or any other issue, you might raise a report about it and complain because it's a feature in the game you can access and it causes problems for you. They have the colors they offer because it serves the game play purpose, but I have customized my HUD long ago, I just don't expect FD to provide support for it.
Is the concern more about not knowing whether you're on a fair playing field rather than the hyperbolic cheaters are everywhere hand-wringing?
There are certainly examples of cheating that are systemic and long lived in this game. The third party apps are just one more example of this.
If the whole experience is personal or coop pve, cheating really isn't a concern.
However, this is a pvp game with pvp combat, pp, and bgs.
Perhaps this latest event is just one more exasperating callout of the brokeness of the pvp dimensions of the game.
The drip drip drip of these things can erode confidence and willingness to engage in any pvp dimension of ED.
No the game isn't doomed, but pvp, pp and bgs are certainly less attractive (for me) as a result of this latest failure.
Then you have to ask yourself, do I even want to know about it? It's been going on for years, but it only causes the hand-wringing once it's exposed to everyone on a forum. So the impact to your actual game play vs the impression knowing about it leaves can be a bit unrelated.
So being ignorant of the problem is a better state for players and for the game itself?
Owning a car with fatal defects is better than being aware of a recall notice saying the car is defective?
You have an interesting perspective.
Will you continue to pvp, pp, bgs knowing that you'll be playing against invinci bots?
Of course. Whatever number Frontier will come up with, whatever they are going to state about countermeasures and what not, no one will ever believe it. So in the light of that, having all the info in the world is as good as having nothing at all.
There's only one elephant in this game, and I'm pretty sure he doesn't dress like that.
#EBL
They don't actually have shareholders. They just use cheat engine to give themselves unlimited funds.
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