Aegis station repair statistical analysis

[MadDogMurdock]

The numbers are big but when the average participation in Trade CGs is 5000+ pilots it scales.

The other thing to bear in mind is that the more stations that go down the harder it gets logistically.
Fewer supplies close at hand, and fewer shipyards and outfitting options.

Sure, the lack of reward beyond the trade profits may be a disincentive, but I always keep hearing that credits are so easy to get that this shouldn't be an issue.

 

[Henri]

IF I HAD A MEGA SHIP...


on another note, how many materials were needed to build these?

 

[MadDogMurdock]

IF I HAD A MEGA SHIP...


on another note, how many materials were needed to build these?

That may be an option if FD feel the need to push things along a bit.
Drop a few bulk freighter megaships either in-system or enroute carrying the appropriate goods at discount prices.

After all, the superpowers should be making more of an effort.

 

[Faybs]

Good idea. The galaxy could do with a few dark places nobody dares to enter But what gameplay could be added other than being a pocket of anarchy systems in space?

Keep the same damaged 3D meshes, remove the fire particle effects and heat damage to your ship, but keep the smoke and floating debris so that you need to use your headlights to land. Then make these kinds of station the ones where you can get the best piracy and smuggling missions, and add an occasional raid by Fed or Imperial navy ships (if you get scanned in the station's instance, it's an instant rep loss with the superpower). That would be all kinds of awesome.

 

[Faybs]

So, Obidian Orbital is not AEGIS, AEGIS as a faction is not present at that station, but there is a AEGIS lab on that station. What's next? Stations that sold fuel to an AEGIS agent? Maybe a cup of tea - totally makes that station a absolutely valid target for the Thargoids.

AEGIS is a joint venture of the Alliance, the Empire and the Federation.
If an AEGIS involvement on the level of "a laboratory somewhere in the 'basement'" is enough to warrant an Thargoid attack the bubble will sooner or later burn.

OK, sorry if I interrupted somebody in their glorious task of submissively kissing Thargoids boots (metaphorically speaking).

Obsidian was hit because of the thousands of tons of alien debris that goes through that station (Palin missions). Either the Thargoids can detect their own tech, or they have human agents keeping them up to date with human goings-on.

 

[-Denali-]

I might consider repairing a station if they'd put in a damn shipyard.

 

[znôrt]

let it burn.

 

[insanephoton]

So, Obidian Orbital is not AEGIS, AEGIS as a faction is not present at that station, but there is a AEGIS lab on that station. What's next? Stations that sold fuel to an AEGIS agent? Maybe a cup of tea - totally makes that station a absolutely valid target for the Thargoids.

AEGIS is a joint venture of the Alliance, the Empire and the Federation.
If an AEGIS involvement on the level of "a laboratory somewhere in the 'basement'" is enough to warrant an Thargoid attack the bubble will sooner or later burn.

OK, sorry if I interrupted somebody in their glorious task of submissively kissing Thargoids boots (metaphorically speaking).

So you didn't read the Galnet article that lists all the stations involved in the AEGIS initiative then? Just to save you the time looking it up, all of the stations hit so far have been on that list. There may not have been any overt presence of AEGIS but who do think was behind Professor Palin's missions. He may have been the public face of them, but I suspect he wasn't personally bankrolling multi-million credit rewards for any Tom , or Harry bringing in various Thargoid debris.

If, as some commentators have speculated, the Thargoids are trying to recover their technology, it makes sense that they would want to shut down the one place strongly incentivising people to loot their gear. I'm guessing that there aren't too many commanders skulking around the Thargoid wreck sites, picking up stuff, now that it doesn't pay millions.

You keep mentioning that AEGIS is a joint venture of the superpowers. Sounds a lot like INRA, pretty much the same mission. The only difference was that the Alliance wasn't involved then (at least not officially). Ever hear of John Jameson? He trusted INRA, he thought he was doing the right thing. He realised the truth too late.

What have AEGIS achieved? They've kicked a hornet's nest and got badly stung in return. We still know next to nothing about what we are dealing with and yet they seem to know a lot about us. Undoubtedly they are capable of destroying our stations and yet they don't. Have AEGIS even attempted peaceful communication? Seems like the unthinking stooges of the military industrial complex are determined to blindly follow a path that could lead to disaster without considering other options.

 

[CMDR Zadian Lichtfrost]

So you didn't read the Galnet article that lists all the stations involved in the AEGIS initiative then? …

I did read that and quite a few other things.

Those Thargoid attacks aren't only affecting AEGIS. They aren't attacking only AEGIS. Even if we assume that the Thargoids have every right to attack AEGIS, the way they attack stations results in huge numbers of civilian casualties. Humans that have absolutely no connection to AEGIS. They kill everybody no matter if they are AEGIS or not.
An analogy would be to carpet bomb whole cities just because a group of thieves is in those cities active. (And then saying that very sensible since no A-bombs where used to completely obliterate the cities)

If the Thargoids destroy stations that have thargoid tech - good luck to everybody on stations that got UA bombed.

How many innocent civilians have to die before the Thargoid apologists realize that the Thargoids are hostile?

 

[Ian Doncaster]

Sure, the lack of reward beyond the trade profits may be a disincentive,

As someone who's unlikely to be around to contribute to the repairs in the first place I would find it absolutely hilarious if there was some big reward for contributions to repairing a station which Frontier were keeping secret until one got repaired

 

[dm0815]

As someone who's unlikely to be around to contribute to the repairs in the first place I would find it absolutely hilarious if there was some big reward for contributions to repairing a station which Frontier were keeping secret until one got repaired

Then what's the harm in telling us?

I bet you'll earn a place on the Thargoid's special s*** list though

 

[777Driver]

If the Thargoids destroy stations that have thargoid tech - good luck to everybody on stations that got UA bombed.

How many innocent civilians have to die before the Thargoid apologists realize that the Thargoids are hostile?

They are only attacking stations that have a research lab, they are not attacking stations that purely have thargiod tech.

Full list of research labs here


Arc's Faith, HR 1183

Armstrong Enterprise, Bhal

Artemis Lodge, Celaeno

Asami Orbital, Pleiades Sector JC-V D2-62

Bao Landing, HIP 17497

Beaufoy Vision, Nauni

Bennington's Rest, 42 N Persei

Borrego's Vision, Pleiades Sector IH-V C2-7

Cavalieri, Electra

Cleaver Prospect, Pleiades Sector HR-W d1-57

Copernicus Observatory, Asterope

Cyllene Orbital, Atlas

Exodus Point, Hyades Sector AB-W B2-2

Gaiman Dock, 49 Arietis

Hudson Observatory, HIP 17694

Kamov Survey, HIP 17892

Kipling Orbital, Pleiades Sector KC-V C2-11

Liman Legacy, HIP 16753

Malthus Terminal, Pleiades Sector HR-W D1-41

Obsidian Orbital, Maia

Reed's Rest, Merope

Rix Depot, Pleiades Sector IH-V C2-5

The Oracle, Pleiades Sector IR-W D1-55

Titan's Daughter, Taygeta

Weyn Dock, 64 Arietis

 

[DeathStroke]

Added a new sheet for obsidian orbital. Thanks to rootsrat for the data.

 

[coastal]

I'm having some time out from ED atm so correct me if I'm wrong to presume that no station has yet to be repaired. I'd like to hear thoughts on how Frontier can create incentives for assisting in repairs. If the thargoids start burning up the galaxy at a decent rate we are going to be bored dinkum with repair community goals for 300 odd stations. They only people that might truly care are those with a particular base system as part of their role playing but I've never felt the need so a large number of burning stations are going to feel pretty indistinguishable.

If Frontier allowed investment in factions then it gives me an opportunity spend the big bucks somewhere but also creates incentives to protect those factions. If Mr and Mrs Thargoid attack a station i've invested in then I've got a pretty good reason to get that station back on-line.

Aside from station repair incentives investing in factions brings other advantages: factions could go out of business and I could lose bazillions! Even better, they could knock out neighbouring factions and dividend out the rewards to their investors. I could win bazillions!