Alien archeology and other mysteries: Thread 9 - The Canonn
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I don't think they are much older than 5 billion years.
You think they're our ancestors? Possible... but 3 generation ships... if they did go to the conflux/gap/rift, that doesn't leave much for Sol.
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I have History #13
This data is extremely exciting commander. contained in this package is information regarding the gaurdians use of Faster Than Light Communication.
Almost the entirety of the guradians' society was devoted to researching interstellar travel and communication. A breakthrough in faster-than-light communication was made before the arks reached their destinations, but the information was transmitted to the arks while they were still in transit, allowing the colonists to establish faster-than-light communications when they landed. Consequently the interstellar network was developed extremely quickly.
The arks kept the population at a managable level long enough for the guardians to develop Hyperspace technology, which fuelled their expansion into the galaxy. The project also cemented the cooperative city-state model, which would serve the Guardians until their ultimate demise
This data is extremely exciting commander. contained in this package is information regarding the gaurdians use of Faster Than Light Communication.
Almost the entirety of the guradians' society was devoted to researching interstellar travel and communication. A breakthrough in faster-than-light communication was made before the arks reached their destinations, but the information was transmitted to the arks while they were still in transit, allowing the colonists to establish faster-than-light communications when they landed. Consequently the interstellar network was developed extremely quickly.
The arks kept the population at a managable level long enough for the guardians to develop Hyperspace technology, which fuelled their expansion into the galaxy. The project also cemented the cooperative city-state model, which would serve the Guardians until their ultimate demise
Am I the only one who got 2 entries from the obelisk 14 ( from the first map, not Nicou's one) with an orb and an urn?
![BigBANGtheory [VR]](https://forums-cdn.zaonce.net/data/avatars/m/71/71385.jpg?1644873788){kind=avatar}
So a Totem + Casket yielded two ancient data messages for me.
I think a more accurate hypotheses is that there are 12 or 13 messages to be yielded from the known ruins site but each commander can see variation in activating them. Probably done to make CMDRs work for the results and not take advantage of the intel of others. For me an Orb + Relic yields nothing on any of the active obelisks possibly because I already have the data from the casket combo's.
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Jonny has confirmed in the bug thread that FD are aware of the problem with messages sometimes not appearing after scanning. Go Jonny!
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...alien-ruins-for-Ram-Tah?p=4996077#post4996077
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/309104-Eafots-LZ-H-b10-0-D-1-CTD-on-drop-to-normal-space-after-orbit/page3
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/320976-Confux-Probes-Missing
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/320762-Eafots-LZ-H-b10-0-D-1-nothing-to-be-found
Currently 3 Open bug reports regarding the CG.
Drew Wager has also given the FDevs a quick HONK and has said they are Investigating it
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Apologies if this has been fully confirmed but I couldn't see it.
I noticed yesterday evening there was some talk about the UP activating on it's own without a scan, we picked up on it in chat while we were doing the livestream and once it finished we went off to do some testing on it. Under the instructions of Bungalo we tried as many possible variations of the test as we could and have come up with guaranteed ways of making it happen.
1. Drop UA
2. Use discovery scanner
3. Drop UP
or even
1. Drop UA
2. Use discovery scanner
3. Scoop up UA
4. Drop UP
In both situations just after dropping the UP it disables you ship but (and I'm surprised this wasn't picked up on more) it does not play the audio to you! It is worth noting that it does not even need to be the same person, 1 person can drop and scan the UA and another drop the UP and it happens.
We tried it with a variety of different objects, including some from the objects from the ruins and even some fish, but the only thing that triggers this reaction is the above.
It would be easy enough to write it off as the scan just lingering and then triggering the UP on release, but if this is the case then why does it not play the audio as well? Also why does it only happen after scanning a UA...
Cue X-files music
You're so funny acting all high and mighty and putting people down for not noticing how months ago you said there were definitely multiple ruin sites and you knew the locations. You were vague back then when we asked you how and now you claim again to know their locations, but actually you're just guessing by trying to piece together 2 completely different lore timelimes, without knowing which parts are still canon and assuming that old thargoid invasion points have been changed for something else...
North of Alioth
Jog on.
Apologies if this has been fully confirmed but I couldn't see it.
I noticed yesterday evening there was some talk about the UP activating on it's own without a scan, we picked up on it in chat while we were doing the livestream and once it finished we went off to do some testing on it. Under the instructions of Bungalo we tried as many possible variations of the test as we could and have come up with guaranteed ways of making it happen.
1. Drop UA
2. Use discovery scanner
3. Drop UP
or even
1. Drop UA
2. Use discovery scanner
3. Scoop up UA
4. Drop UP
In both situations just after dropping the UP it disables you ship but (and I'm surprised this wasn't picked up on more) it does not play the audio to you! It is worth noting that it does not even need to be the same person, 1 person can drop and scan the UA and another drop the UP and it happens.
We tried it with a variety of different objects, including some from the objects from the ruins and even some fish, but the only thing that triggers this reaction is the above.
It would be easy enough to write it off as the scan just lingering and then triggering the UP on release, but if this is the case then why does it not play the audio as well? Also why does it only happen after scanning a UA...
Cue X-files music
You're so funny acting all high and mighty and putting people down for not noticing how months ago you said there were definitely multiple ruin sites and you knew the locations. You were vague back then when we asked you how and now you claim again to know their locations, but actually you're just guessing by trying to piece together 2 completely different lore timelimes, without knowing which parts are still canon and assuming that old thargoid invasion points have been changed for something else...
North of Alioth
Jog on.
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I have no idea really.
If the ruin is in their home system, they are quite resent. It's only 3.6 billion years. Less than Sol.
They sound quite human like and they could originate from a completely different system, so I wouldn't rule it out.
The thing that makes me doubt it a bit is that they must have been tiny, if they could launch entire ships from the relic towers.
Remember what Halsey told us: the real caretakers of our galaxy / tiny yet gargantuan / fleeting yet eternal.
https://community.elitedangerous.com/en/galnet/uid/57023a099657baf74c71f6e8
Guys, from progamad spreadsheet (kudos cmdr!) I got a very important piece of information:
That means, basically, that the guardians DID develop hyperspace technology. So, potentially they could have expanded to the very end of the galaxy!
That means, basically, that the guardians DID develop hyperspace technology. So, potentially they could have expanded to the very end of the galaxy!
I think that's a new one!
Well that scraps our theories of timescale and distance to the other ruins, as they got hyperspace technology and thus could reach everywhere...
More Importantly it proves their Generation Ships Arrived at their Destination. And then constructed their Hyperdrives
More Importantly it proves their Generation Ships Arrived at their Destination. And then constructed their Hyperdrives
And there is a FTL comm network for us to find. Maybe the ruins are a giant FTL phonebooth. The circular area would be somekind of a "dish antena".
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At least 14. See the doc linked on front page.
Biology: 7,9
History: 8,10,11,12,13,14,15
Language: 8,12,14
Technology: 7,10
edit: make that 15. Someone just added history 9.
edit more: mad nox has found lang 11, 13 and new, culture 12.
So 18 records so far.
edit again: tech 9 added
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Completely agree about the Guardians wanting to send their ships to systems where they knew there was a habitable environment waiting for them - or at least straightforward to terraform. Whether similar ruins would necessarily be on the surfaces of any moons of those planets or on a body around a ringed dwarf star or gas giant is another matter: brute force searching is not the way to go without narrowing down potential sites considerably. I have visited the ruins at night and might have completely missed them had I not known they were there, unless I had happened to fly directly over them below 7km or so - I'm hugely impressed that xdeath found them so quickly. More clues, or a great deal of luck, are needed.
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If these ruins are part of an interstellar communications network, I would hope that there would be some way of tracing the locations of other terminals from what is found there. (I wonder if constant line-of-sight would be required: if they did not have ftl travel, then perhaps they also did not have ftl comms? Perhaps all sites have to be able to keep all the other sites in view at all times during the day/night and at all points in their orbit?)*
EDIT: * obsolete idea, it seems the Guardians did have FTL, albeit after sending their first generation ships out.
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