I just found Language 12. In it, Ram Tah says that he will "dig deeper into the information collected by you and other explorers to learn the visual form" of the Guardians' language. Does that mean that he will at some point provide an update to our software to allow us to translate the glyphs on the obelisks? If so, that could potentially be the key we need to solving the entire puzzle.
Alien archeology and other mysteries: Thread 9 - The Canonn
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I'm outta patience atm, but I believe the blank combinations are required to unlock a new one to scan to get the alternatives.
The problem I see is that means there is far too many combinations to need to run though even after finding the right mix to get the ones that need to be done.
The reason it seems easier in open/PG is that other commanders are scanning said parts and tripping those circumstances. But without ernest coordination on the instance effort the results are skewed I think.
I need to run and test it somehow later. I currently only have the 13 base ones done. I need to figure out the combination for the new ones.
The problem I see is that means there is far too many combinations to need to run though even after finding the right mix to get the ones that need to be done.
The reason it seems easier in open/PG is that other commanders are scanning said parts and tripping those circumstances. But without ernest coordination on the instance effort the results are skewed I think.
I need to run and test it somehow later. I currently only have the 13 base ones done. I need to figure out the combination for the new ones.
I say I don't have enough rep for you, sir. This simply fits way too well with the lore, the alien ship we found, the crash sites and the knowledge from the Guardians.
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Absolutely in Solo and private group, yeah I guess a developer could do it from home. The impact of disconnections needs to be weighed in... I realise that un-intended disconnections are a problem for the game the Question is how does it impact the Alien Ruins mission/puzzle etc.
And not just the disconnects, but how the mission message delay, not showing up, showing up when doing nothing...how is that apparent lag affecting things...
I have a theory.
I took the map from the front page and numbered each of the UAs like so:
Looking at it like this, there are 105 combinations of the different artifacts. Plus the addition of each individual artifact makes it 120 different possible combinations to find the 81. So far each combination of artifacts has only worked at one obelisk, and a different one each time. Also none have worked at the beacons (yet, I've only tried 4 combinations so far)
An 'X' means I got a result with the combination, an O means it worked with no beacon or obelisk.
What do you think?
Lets try again where the imgs actually show up
Not as far as I can see, but I don't think all messages have been posted into the spreadsheet; however I would expect any demise message (if it exists) would be in the final tranche rather than the middle tranche
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Which message was this?
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I'd say definitely
Sadly, the ruins data mission is another miss from FD for me.
Brute forcing appears to be the only valid approach. I'm not halfway through the combos yet and it's just a bit tedious.
Is it too much to provide some hints, maybe have the obelisk glow a different color if you have one or two of the correct items, maybe have Ram Tah provide more useful failure messages.
That plus the constant adjudication server crashes, missing messages, and the mysterious reset of the obelisk positioning is all a bit meh.
It seems obvious that there are more sites out there somewhere, but again absolutely no logical way to find them.
Fantastic art, great sound, the ground and sky look amazing, but once again a lack of interactivity and poor story telling leave that empty feeling of 'what might have been'.
Oh well, nothing better to do - back to the grind-scan
Brute forcing appears to be the only valid approach. I'm not halfway through the combos yet and it's just a bit tedious.
Is it too much to provide some hints, maybe have the obelisk glow a different color if you have one or two of the correct items, maybe have Ram Tah provide more useful failure messages.
That plus the constant adjudication server crashes, missing messages, and the mysterious reset of the obelisk positioning is all a bit meh.
It seems obvious that there are more sites out there somewhere, but again absolutely no logical way to find them.
Fantastic art, great sound, the ground and sky look amazing, but once again a lack of interactivity and poor story telling leave that empty feeling of 'what might have been'.
Oh well, nothing better to do - back to the grind-scan
Sadly, the ruins data mission is another miss from FD for me.
Brute forcing appears to be the only valid approach. I'm not halfway through the combos yet and it's just a bit tedious.
Is it too much to provide some hints, maybe have the obelisk glow a different color if you have one or two of the correct items, maybe have Ram Tah provide more useful failure messages.
That plus the constant adjudication server crashes, missing messages, and the mysterious reset of the obelisk positioning is all a bit meh.
It seems obvious that there are more sites out there somewhere, but again absolutely no logical way to find them.
Fantastic art, great sound, the ground and sky look amazing, but once again a lack of interactivity and poor story telling leave that empty feeling of 'what might have been'.
Oh well, nothing better to do - back to the grind-scan
It is somewhat brute force, but there's a hinty logic to it- if you scan each obelisk with a single item, the ones you do not get the fail message on are the ones keyed to that item. Once you know which monoliths are keyed to which item, it's much more rational to work through. I was done up to 13 in a reasonable time frame.
Zenith's map on the front page of the thread will tell you which ones are keyed to what.
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Careful folks the pew pew brigade is at the ruins destroying parked ships, its sad tbh.
Sadly, the ruins data mission is another miss from FD for me.
Brute forcing appears to be the only valid approach. I'm not halfway through the combos yet and it's just a bit tedious.
Is it too much to provide some hints, maybe have the obelisk glow a different color if you have one or two of the correct items, maybe have Ram Tah provide more useful failure messages.
That plus the constant adjudication server crashes, missing messages, and the mysterious reset of the obelisk positioning is all a bit meh.
It seems obvious that there are more sites out there somewhere, but again absolutely no logical way to find them.
Fantastic art, great sound, the ground and sky look amazing, but once again a lack of interactivity and poor story telling leave that empty feeling of 'what might have been'.
Oh well, nothing better to do - back to the grind-scan
Yeah I was going to head out there and do my part but after reading a bunch of these posts I'm not going to bother. Way to much blind testing. If I'm going to grind for something it better at least provide some benefit. I'll stay in the bubble and continue blindly searching for missions with Modular Terminals... Ugh.
Had you been there 2 hours ago, me and my pals would have been there to die for you while you ran away!
I swear if part of this is Open-only and FD have STILL not implemented a half decent Crime and Punishment system I will be annoyed. It seems that Solo/Private Group players can only get 13 bits of the data but Open players can obtain more.
I just don't understand why FD do nothing about this. If this event is so important to the community, why punish the good players allowing those jerks do whatever they want?
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Had you been there 2 hours ago, me and my pals would have been there to die for you while you ran away!
I just arrived from work, sat down to relax playing some Elite and got killed for no reason! And my bank account is not so big.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...13tODwHQdEnxLoVIj4ceGrpGQ8/htmlview?sle=true#
I have slightly different results from this spread sheet. Some is the same and some is different.
Does any one else have the same. Im wondering if the results are different for different players or different instances. Solo/Open/Private.
I know this has been talked about before, but i couldnt find a definitive answer.. So quick capsule question/answer now.
I have slightly different results from this spread sheet. Some is the same and some is different.
Does any one else have the same. Im wondering if the results are different for different players or different instances. Solo/Open/Private.
I know this has been talked about before, but i couldnt find a definitive answer.. So quick capsule question/answer now.
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Quick question: is it safe to dock at stations without auto-completing the mission so long as you avoid the Meene system?
Thats why i gived up on the ruins. I did every combination in the ruins, waste lot of hours to get 13 data in solo. If i want more, i have to go to Open, where i get killed for nothing.
I got killed and sent immediatelly back to Felice Dock and did not lost the mission.
Have not tried dock anywhere else on my own.
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