Alien archeology and other mysteries: Thread 9 - The Canonn

[hayler]

Guardians Like Geometry, but all diagrams I've seen so far are in 2D. This is a Metatron Cube overlaid over the top of the site - I don't quite have the scale exactly on, and I think by virtue of how we take screenshots and planetary curvature that it warps slightly, but this seems to fit the site:

Spoiler

http://i.imgur.com/uIKSJvs.jpg

Interesting how many default artefacts and obelisks groups sit on lines or intersections. I suspect that the "archways" are meant to indicate intersections, which doesn't quite line up on my screenshot (unless I draw it by hand obviously) but using some of the maths calculations previously and recognising that the shape we're effectively looking for is this one:

http://i.imgur.com/OwCwCD7.jpg

If the centre of the site is Sol (as previously suggested) and Section A is the current ruins site, we should be able work out two (or four?) locations for Section F if it represents a galactic map.

Tin Foil hats ahoy!

Z

Why use sol as the centre site? I doubt the guardians would have built this place with us in mind, I'm fairly sure that the centre site is where we are but to my knowledge the only structure to have a provable purpose on the site is the right most pyramid within the compound, it points to and is angled towards B Centurai the pole star.

 

[Zebarmy]

Why use sol as the centre site? I doubt the guardians would have built this place with us in mind, I'm fairly sure that the centre site is where we are but to my knowledge the only structure to have a provable purpose on the site is the right most pyramid within the compound, it points to and is angled towards B Centurai the pole star.

Purely speculative based on the measurements that were taken by a previous commander (who's name eludes me... sorry) who found a 1 to 1 mapping with distance to Sol. Edit: It was Mengy

I would go into full tinfoil hattery about why I believe this too, but I'll sound like a massive conspiracy theorist

Needless to say... Star Tetrahedron's are also known as Merkaba (or vehicle of light...), and have religious connotations in the basis of many Human religions. We know that there were two types of Guardian (by colour of skin - one of which we know to be Red). We know they made bio-engineered weapons (Humans? Thargoids?) If it's us - then they well may be the basis for ancient earth religion in that Guardian equates to Angel (see markings on Archways), Red skinned versions might equate to Demons (who they happened to be at war with...), and the symbology of Star Tetrahedron in particular is rumoured to be what the Star of David was based on, which coincidentally the entire Hebrew ABC can be drawn within. Christianity has origins in Judaism, Islam in Christianity. We've a hell of story coming if that's the case...

Hebrew Alphabet within Star of David:

Spoiler

I'll get my coat...

 

[TheOneWithNoLife]

ANother observation regarding Ruin "instance" area is that it seems span far to the south, yet breaks relatively quickly to the north. What I mean is, that I was able to pick up data scan messages when I was very far to the south from ruins, yet when I was north of it, I would stop getting anything merely few clicks away from it. Coincidentally, Triangle shaped B formation also points to the south (well, at least with one of its angles anyway). Some food for thought into "there are more ruins nearby" tank.

I saw something strange yesterday in Canonn group. There were ships close to the ruins, and I was like 50 meters away from one of the ships and it was flickering on the radar, as if it is far away, I couldn't target it, but i could other ships. Then I went really close (8m) and the radar picked him up properly. I went back out to 50 meters and I lost him again. Then when he got off and flew away from the ruins I was able to see him normally.

Is it possible that the Ruins are jamming my sensors?

Also I was thinking, Why doesn't the ship have the same sensors the SRV has? You can not select SRVs and other objects from the ship. Imagine having a wavelength scanner on the ship. Finding stuff on the planet would be so much better, especially at night.

 

[Leo3ABP]

Purely speculative based on the measurements that were taken by a previous commander (who's name eludes me... sorry) who found a 1 to 1 mapping with distance to Sol. Edit: It was Mengy

I would go into full tinfoil hattery about why I believe this too, but I'll sound like a massive conspiracy theorist

Needless to say... Star Tetrahedron's are also known as Merkaba (or vehicle of light...), and have religious connotations in the basis of many Human religions. We know that there were two types of Guardian (by colour of skin - one of which we know to be Red). We know they made bio-engineered weapons (Humans? Thargoids?) If it's us - then they well may be the basis for ancient earth religion in that Guardian equates to Angel (see markings on Archways), Red skinned versions might equate to Demons (who they happened to be at war with...), and the symbology of Star Tetrahedron in particular is rumoured to be what the Star of David was based on, which coincidentally the entire Hebrew ABC can be drawn within. Christianity has origins in Judaism, Islam in Christianity. We've a hell of story coming if that's the case...

I'll get my coat...

And the biggest tinfoil hat award goes to - this guy!
But seriously, thats a great theory, I like it even more due to it crossing with one of my own and adding to it. So keep it up.

 

[Masheikh Scytale]

People were talking about needing a measure, an anchor point to be able to read a map that ruins might be, maybe a distance to Thoth can be that measure? Or line indicating a plane. Meriop style. Just speculations. Or maybe there are ruins on Thoth 1, but nobody bothered to check known coordinates because everyone went like "pfff, its just an easter egg"

Egyptian god Thoth is also related to the MOON and SUN RISING among other things like .. Astronomy ...

 

[Maxulic]

Now align the Galaxy map with that view & find the right star (select as nav target in Galaxy map).

A little too late, it was about 12 hours ago.

 

[Arioch]

Re: the p419 book idea - I've checked out the asteroid rings in the Farack system as mentioned in Tales From The Frontier, but no pirate bases or Alien Things
.
The local news did report the discovery of alien life on Mitra Estate station 3 days ago, but it turned out to be a nasty parasite infecting the residents and not quite the Guardian/Thargoid bonanza I was hoping for :/ Hope they all enjoy squirting into their space-toilets as I head back to the ruins!

 

[hayler]

Purely speculative based on the measurements that were taken by a previous commander (who's name eludes me... sorry) who found a 1 to 1 mapping with distance to Sol. Edit: It was Mengy

I would go into full tinfoil hattery about why I believe this too, but I'll sound like a massive conspiracy theorist

Needless to say... Star Tetrahedron's are also known as Merkaba (or vehicle of light...), and have religious connotations in the basis of many Human religions. We know that there were two types of Guardian (by colour of skin - one of which we know to be Red). We know they made bio-engineered weapons (Humans? Thargoids?) If it's us - then they well may be the basis for ancient earth religion in that Guardian equates to Angel (see markings on Archways), Red skinned versions might equate to Demons (who they happened to be at war with...), and the symbology of Star Tetrahedron in particular is rumoured to be what the Star of David was based on, which coincidentally the entire Hebrew ABC can be drawn within. Christianity has origins in Judaism, Islam in Christianity. We've a hell of story coming if that's the case...

Hebrew Alphabet within Star of David:

Spoiler

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipe...et.png/1200px-Magen_David_Hebrew_Alphabet.png

I'll get my coat...

Well I like the theory

 

[Th3 0utKa5t]

Guardians Like Geometry, but all diagrams I've seen so far are in 2D. This is a Metatron Cube overlaid over the top of the site - I don't quite have the scale exactly on, and I think by virtue of how we take screenshots and planetary curvature that it warps slightly, but this seems to fit the site:

Spoiler

http://i.imgur.com/uIKSJvs.jpg

Interesting how many default artefacts and obelisks groups sit on lines or intersections. I suspect that the "archways" are meant to indicate intersections, which doesn't quite line up on my screenshot (unless I draw it by hand obviously) but using some of the maths calculations previously and recognising that the shape we're effectively looking for is this one - A Star Tetrahedron:

http://i.imgur.com/OwCwCD7.jpg

If the centre of the site is Sol (as previously suggested) and Section A is the current ruins site, we should be able work out two (or four?) locations for Section F if it represents a galactic map. Section F I believe should sit on an intersection, thus relatively calculable.

Tin Foil hats ahoy!

Z

dude you might be on to something with that overlay of the star, look at this image of the ruins before teh patch and then you one with the overlay, look the the 2 pyramids thay have the same markings around them as you image does.

 

[Leo3ABP]

Egyptian god Thoth is also related to the MOON and SUN RISING among other things like .. Astronomy ...

There is a Ra system in inhabited space with a loft of landable moons. Just adding to agyptian theory

dude you might be on to something with that overlay of the star, look at this image of the ruins before teh patch and then you one with the overlay, look the the 2 pyramids thay have the same markings around them as you image does.

[url]http://i1079.photobucket.com/albums/w517/gregg_whyte1/well%20ill%20be_zpsryg17zoe.png[/URL]

Try making triangles bigger, so they go along the "walls". We indeed might be onto something.

 

[CMDRDethalis]

First i want to thank all the commanders that have provided data, tested the combinations and made the maps and spreadsheets. Truly amazing work.

I have a few things to point out that may or may not have been tried.

First i noticed in the testing everyone has done the following:

Solo= 13 data
Private Party/Open= 23 data
Wing= ????

Has anyone thought of trying a wing of 4 after they have gotten the other data to see if new obelisks are active?

Another thing i wanna point out is the commander that made a map and got two star systems a while back after he did all the work he did to use CAD and such to make the model. The beacons in this ruins site are not visible till you drive by them and they extend up from in the ground. I also compared the older SOL map that he shows in his post to the ruins and I made a observation. The artifact spots, and beacon spots all align them-self with stars on the SOL map. There is one on the large flat circle which is assumed to be SOL and there is one on the small circle as well. I wonder if they are markers. I wonder if the star that is depicted by the beacon comparison to the SOL map is where we should be looking next. If the above wing situation results in nothing.

Thanks

 

[M. Volgrand]

After seeing the new spreadsheet and forms available to investigate the ruins (kudos cmdrs Zenith, Floc and Kaltern), I have proceeded to close mine, as it is clear outdated.

I will most likely be focusing my efforts around the alien hyperdictions, but count with my ship to protect scientists out there.

Kudos, cmdrs!

 

[Zebarmy]

Try making triangles bigger, so they go along the "walls". We indeed might be onto something.

I think the hexagon wall is just there to give intersection lines, if I scale up to match the walls (and I tried rotating by 60 degrees too...) it means that the circle does not match Sector A

 

[Han_Zen]

Egyptian god Thoth is also related to the MOON and SUN RISING among other things like .. Astronomy ...

And it's a tarot deck by Alister Crowley and Frieda Harris.

Drew seem to have embedded quite a few hints in direction of tarot/hermetic orders/kabbalah and so on, in the Kahina story.

Examples are:
- Imperial Ambassador to Earth Waite. A. E. Waite is another tarot deck designer and associate/enemy of Crowley.
- 'The Star Ruby' and 'The Star Sapphire' are both rituals with roots in Jewish kabbalah and evolved by the likes of Waite and Crowley(Google it. It's bizarre stuff).
- Persephone is central in these orders and are represented by the 'High Priestess card' in the decks.

Here is the Moon card from the Thoth deck.

 

[gooddoc]

Why are we dismissing the clue at all because it is related to Jacque's? After all Frontier has said that they will re-use the clues that would have lead us to the ruins as well. Why could that not be the same? It is d clue without an unsolved mystery after all right now. Until it is proven to mean nothing, I feel like it is a valid clue to consider, especially since we are currently running in circles anyways.

Cant argue with that! Solve the clue first, then say 'Yeah, just as I said - last June's puzzle!'

 

[Han_Zen]

dude you might be on to something with that overlay of the star, look at this image of the ruins before teh patch and then you one with the overlay, look the the 2 pyramids thay have the same markings around them as you image does.

[url]http://i1079.photobucket.com/albums/w517/gregg_whyte1/well%20ill%20be_zpsryg17zoe.png[/URL]

I would flip that 'tree of life' thingy 90°, so it fits the hexagon of the ruin.

 

[Th3 0utKa5t]

I think the hexagon wall is just there to give intersection lines, if I scale up to match the walls (and I tried rotating by 60 degrees too...) it means that the circle does not match Sector A

I agree with you there, i do however think there is still something missing as area B on the right is not covered or intersecting with any lines.

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And it's a tarot deck by Alister Crowley and Frieda Harris.

Drew seem to have embedded quite a few hints in direction of tarot/hermetic orders/kabbalah and so on, in the Kahina story.

Examples are:
- Imperial Ambassador to Earth Waite. A. E. Waite is another tarot deck designer and associate/enemy of Crowley.
- 'The Star Ruby' and 'The Star Sapphire' are both rituals with roots in Jewish kabbalah and evolved by the likes of Waite and Crowley(Google it. It's bizarre stuff).
- Persephone is central in these orders and are represented by the 'High Priestess card' in the decks.

Here is the Moon card from the Thoth deck.
http://phantasmaphile.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83454ed4169e2011571d32e03970b-800wi

those hill looking things look a lot likes waves alpha, beta, gamma, asnd so on, there are five of them too, 3 on the bottom of the card and 2 at the top

 

[CMDRDethalis]

First i want to thank all the commanders that have provided data, tested the combinations and made the maps and spreadsheets. Truly amazing work.

I have a few things to point out that may or may not have been tried.

First i noticed in the testing everyone has done the following:

Solo= 13 data
Private Party/Open= 23 data
Wing= ????

Has anyone thought of trying a wing of 4 after they have gotten the other data to see if new obelisks are active?

Another thing i wanna point out is the commander that made a map and got two star systems a while back after he did all the work he did to use CAD and such to make the model. The beacons in this ruins site are not visible till you drive by them and they extend up from in the ground. I also compared the older SOL map that he shows in his post to the ruins and I made a observation. The artifact spots, and beacon spots all align them-self with stars on the SOL map. There is one on the large flat circle which is assumed to be SOL and there is one on the small circle as well. I wonder if they are markers. I wonder if the star that is depicted by the beacon comparison to the SOL map is where we should be looking next. If the above wing situation results in nothing.

Thanks

I am still wondering if the above has been done and or looked at.... Been reading this thread nearly the whole 1009 pages as well. Figured i would chime in on the hunt for the missing data sets.

 

[Zebarmy]

I agree with you there, i do however think there is still something missing as area B on the right is not covered or intersecting with any lines.

That's just my crappy drawing, working with the screenshot I have. I have tried modifying my FOV to get a better screenshot but have had no luck. If I draw the lines manually it fits, but the circles don't end up actually round...

B is meant to sit on the intersection, same as F is. By the same token, the centre circle should intersect the three nearest artefacts.

 

[Leo3ABP]

That's just my crappy drawing, working with the screenshot I have. I have tried modifying my FOV to get a better screenshot but have had no luck. If I draw the lines manually it fits, but the circles don't end up actually round...

B is meant to sit on the intersection, same as F is. By the same token, the centre circle should intersect the three nearest artefacts.

Do it by hand. Just as you said yourself, rendering, fov, and account of ruins do not have to be 100% geometrically precise, should not invalidate a lead in a reasonable margin. Judging by previous picture, we might be onto something.