Alien archeology and other mysteries: Thread 9 - The Canonn

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Hey Cmdrs,

Just a quick note - I've been trying to identify potential candidates for other ancient site systems based on the premise that the ruins are a node in a network which is distibuted in a regular geometrical pattern.

No joy out to 21.5ly. I am however applying a very strict cut of only considering systems which are equidistant to the ruins to within a margin of 0.01 ly.

No joy so far.

The main limiting factor is that I'm manually having to look up system info and copy and paste co-ordinates, which takes ages.

I could do it all very quickly if I had a dataset to work from and could cut out the manual work. All I need is system name and x,y,z co-ordinates out to say 100 or 200 ly from the ruins. Does anyone know a way I can get that in a single dataset?

An update on this - made some changes and improvements and it went from hardly any initial candidates to way too many. Will try to narrow down. Initial thought of checking equilateral triangles tesselating around the ruins system came up a no. - the current candidate identification approach would quite likely prevent that situation from showing up though. Needs more work.

Am currently mobile only apart from a few hours a day so time is limited.
 
The behaviour for solo sounds correct, but the open situation sounds like it's revealing more than it should. We'll look into it, but I don't think you're missing anything that should be able to access.

Michael

Ok, so Michael has confirmed what I previously suspected: Solo is not bugged, we just don't know how to apply the only regular data we get (the data patterns) to activate more obelisks. They are being activated in PG/open by the number of people doing different things, and we need to figure out what the pattern is.
 
Planetoids are huge, even if many commanders searched on the two moons something could have been missed. According to MB there are other locations. So this site must have the clues to find the others or at least another one.
It could be in the same system or on another. As I'm not good at maths or geometry I let the scientists doing their job, but I suggest two search group. One working on the map as it was a star map, and the other working on as it was a local map.
Gonna start searching on this system first.
 
So, we were using the OPEN/PG exploit after all? Hahahaha

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Planetoids are huge, even if many commanders searched on the two moons something could have been missed. According to MB there are other locations. So this site must have the clues to find the others or at least another one.
It could be in the same system or on another. As I'm not good at maths or geometry I let the scientists doing their job, but I suggest two search group. One working on the map as it was a star map, and the other working on as it was a local map.
Gonna start searching on this system first.

Is there a time of day where the moon aligns right in the middle of the sky, like the comm station (ruins) could point to the other hypotetical comm station on the moon?

From Culture 12:

This is truely fascinating data commander, as an engineer myself I have to admit I'm highly curious about the Guardians technology. It seems that the guardians had a particular fascination with geometric shapes, which they used to illustrate connections between themselves and the world around them. This predilection manifested itself in their technology as well - specifically their monolith network. With this data and the help of the galactic community we've partially mapped the monolith network, which formed the backbone of their communications technology, and discovered that they too are arranged in geometric patterns. Whilst this does not give us full access to the network, I believe it is the first step to unlocking the entire system and maybe more
 
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Pretty sure they have...

Yes you'd have thought so but where?

This was reported by several commanders in this very thread. It's even on the first page.

Unknown Ships's modules:
Pulse Laser
Drive
Drive
Drive
Drive
Power Plant
FSD
Life Support
Power Distributor
Shield Generator
Blank space On 100%
Blank space On 100%
Blank space On 100%
Blank space On 100%
Blank space On 100%

No cargo.

Right. Thank you. So it is. In Post #4, Section №1, Sub-Section №1 'BREAKING NEWS', Sub-Sub-Section №3 'FIRST CONTACT WITH AN ALIEN SHIP!', Hidden Spoiler №3 'Details:', paragraph №11 'Unknown Ships's modules:'. How could I possibly have missed that? Perhaps because it had only been recently added since the last time I trawled this thread? How ignorant of me.
 
As far as I know there are TWO obelisks that are lit in solo mode at first yet we have no combination for them. This site is an information node. It would be a bit daft of the Guardians to not include the locations of one or TWO of the other sites. Time to get the thinking caps on people.

Also if the blue relics are location placefinders for other stars then we would also need a visional representation of which planets and where on the planets. I dont think the site map is detailed enough. Besides, if more advanced races made everything this cryptic it would be a royal nightmare just reading the morning paper in their society.
 
Lots of people seem to think the answer is on another planet, but we haven't even worked out the one we have yet! Michael has confirmed that Solo isn't bugged, and Open is showing more than it should. It's logical to conclude that obelisks in open are being activated by a process that we don't understand, due to the number of active commanders doing random things. What we need to apply ourselves to is how we are getting more active obelisks.

Scan an active obelisk and we get two things:
One: From Ran either an "intrusion" message, nothing, or decoded data. This depends on the contents of our cargo.
Two: Alpha-Epsilon data patterns.
The obelisk then goes inactive. Even in open, it's not scannable again by the same commander, which is a big pointer that Solo is not bugged.

Since MB has confirmed this is correct behaviour, and FD requiring a relog to progress is VERY unlikely, it seems likely that we need to progress using the only scan results we reliably get: The Alpha-Epsilon data patterns. I think we need to use these to somehow activate additional obelisks to scan.

Once we know the mechanism for activating obelisks, we can progress.
 
Something I'd like to try but do not have the math (or even protractor etc) for (unless someones done it already) : Inscribe an eqilateral triangle in a circle, match the points where it touches the apex to the current ruins coords and apply the correct matix to transfom the othes in a similar way to points on a sphere - given planet rotation and theory these are comms hubs and it doen't make sense to have 1 per moon.

It's a good idea, the only problem is that you won't get individual points on the sphere, you'll get a continuous circle of possible points. That's not really actually a problem though as rather than a point to fly to, you'll get a line to fly along, which would still be worth trying. Might also be worth applying the same principle using a hexagon too. Probably little point in trying other shapes unless anyone's spotted them being used at the ruins anywhere.
 
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As far as I know there are TWO obelisks that are lit in solo mode at first yet we have no combination for them. This site is an information node. It would be a bit daft of the Guardians to not include the locations of one or TWO of the other sites. Time to get the thinking caps on people.

Also if the blue relics are location placefinders for other stars then we would also need a visional representation of which planets and where on the planets. I dont think the site map is detailed enough. Besides, if more advanced races made everything this cryptic it would be a royal nightmare just reading the morning paper in their society.

C38 and G19
 
After doing all of this, I have a strong belief that tetrahedron net might show us the coordinates for 3 other sites. Yes, 3 other, making it 4 total, just by the number of monolith or whatever you call them, pillars that hold ancient artifact, due to tetrahedron net having 4 outer angles (including top). Three triangle formations in ruins, while not aligned perfectly, might be an indication to that too. I also think that monolith at obelisk group A is indicating the planet we are on.

Big Rep!
 
It would be nice to know which breadcrumbs were in place that would have led to the discovery of this ruin. It might have suggested some method that could be applied in locating others. Or perhaps we are supposed to wait for another trailer to find the next one(s).
 
Anyone tried Soontill Relics ?

A slab of unidentified material covered in pictographs of an unknown origin. This relic is part of a cache of similar artefacts that were uncovered by explorers researching lost alien civilizations in the Soontil system. Sold by Garry's Reclamations, Cheranovsky City, Ngurii.


I like this idea.
 
A slab of unidentified material covered in pictographs of an unknown origin. This relic is part of a cache of similar artefacts that were uncovered by explorers researching lost alien civilizations in the Soontil system. Sold by Garry's Reclamations, Cheranovsky City, Ngurii.


I like this idea.

Ive just arrived with them on board Ill let you know :)
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