Alien archeology and other mysteries: Thread 9 - The Canonn

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Geometry is geometry but he used two angles from it and applied to coordinates. Our Ships give a planet a 0,0. Which is on the equator somewhere. Just because we picked a point on the planet as 0,0 doesn't mean another race would pick the same point. They can pick any other point on a planet's equator as an origin then give us coordinates. We go to those coordinates as displayed on our ships and nothing will be there. Without knowing both races use the same point of origin, we can't use coordinates.

For this reason I think the closest we'll get is a planet, not coordinates. Perhaps a planet in each system, I think a "daisy-chain" pattern is more likely. We find one more ruin, that leads us to another, and so on.
 
The thing about the original ruins that seems to stick out as most relevant,
is the large line (mound) leading from the largest circle, and the other mound towards the bottom and the left of it.
It seems like a rather exact point of construction at the site.

Considering the large line comes down from a circular feature,
I can only assume that it represents a planet.
If it does represent a planet, then the only thing the two mounds could represent to my mind is an equatorial line, and a latitude line.
So the point at which they both meet would be 0,0. co-ordinates,

kinda like this...

https://s23.postimg.org/437o0dd4r/image.jpg

The problem of coarse is this probably isn't the case at all, and the other problem is not knowing what scale the grid should be anyway,
I've tried various different sizes, hoping to match the grid up with something else at the site, but nothing seems to really fit or fall into place.

whatever clue/s we should be following rather using brute force, they must be very obscure, or surely we would be on the right track by now.

The central line follows roughly the moon's path (so points at where it rises). Barnards loop rises in the middle of the wide flare on the west. not sure if anyone found an alignment with the smaller flare on the "key stem".

There was theory last week that it is a henge with a 6.9day cycle . Don't think anything more came of that though.

edit: although perhaps a mark against henge theory is that it would require round-the-clock observation for a week, unless it could be predicted?
 
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We still can use angles to some degree:
If we have two angles, we can add and subtract them. No matter how the aliens defined them, the resulting angle will be the same, just expressed differently.
Because we can still add and subtract angles, we can scale them. We just need to ensure that the number itself is a blackbox, aside from comparisons with other angles and of course the aforementioned calculations. The basic trigonometric functions should also still work, especially tan can be used, as tan is just sin/cos, but this is getting off topic.
As for where 0 is: if the planet rotates around its own axis, we can assume that the poles and the equator would be special areas, at least one of them likely to be 0. As for axial tilts and orbit inclinations, we can also assume that the alien 0 is either at our 0°, our 90°, or at the galactic plane, and that it is either relative to the main body, parent body, orbit or galactic plane. Simply because choosing another 0 will make navigating harder, and it is stated that the guardians disliked being wasteful. However, even if we don't know where 0 is, we can still measure angles between multiple points.

I agree with this. I don't know wether or not we are chasing our tails by trying to apply angles and find co-ords, but in theory its mathmatically possible ^^^
 
Just for peace of mind - the red circle is a standard randomly generated POI?

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Geometry is geometry but he used two angles from it and applied to coordinates. Our Ships give a planet a 0,0. Which is on the equator somewhere. Just because we picked a point on the planet as 0,0 doesn't mean another race would pick the same point. They can pick any other point on a planet's equator as an origin then give us coordinates. We go to those coordinates as displayed on our ships and nothing will be there. Without knowing both races use the same point of origin, we can't use coordinates.

What I did was actually a bit more complicated, I chose just to do a simple picture - I had to use measurements with a compass and ruler - and guess what? The angles of the gaps ended up being 64'ish (plus other measurements) - which is a bit too suspect with everything else taken into consideration.

By all means, don't bother to check them out, honestly no skin off my back lol - just stare at some rings instead, because they probably have just as much geometry to them like triangles.
 
I have spoted that their is drawing of triangle on the ruins. they seem to pass over the topography. They are not easy to spot but on certain map they are pretty clear (i know this one is ancient but it's the clearer) and i have verified on site there existence.
If we superpose the two circular structur, scale one image it so the 5 sort of tooth gear amtch perfectly and rotate it then tadaaa. The two triangle and the extra lines match !!

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What do you think of it ?

(English is not my native language, please be kind [smile])
 
Actually I wonder, how did you connect the piece that you connected to 31° to 31°? I measured its angle from the main ridge through the center of the large hill to be roughly 15-16°?
Did you multiply by 2, or what exactly is your reasoning there?
 
What I did was actually a bit more complicated, I chose just to do a simple picture - I had to use measurements with a compass and ruler - and guess what? The angles of the gaps ended up being 64'ish (plus other measurements) - which is a bit too suspect with everything else taken into consideration.

By all means, don't bother to check them out, honestly no skin off my back lol - just stare at some rings instead, because they probably have just as much geometry to them like triangles.

I'm pretty confident each one of those angles is important. Especially since they align with big things in the stars. But we have part of an answer, the systems. Can you point to one of those systems with our alien ruins? If a very intelligent and sophisticated race designed the architecture to point to one or more sites they'd include more information then a pair of coordinates.

And we can spend all day long drawing angles between things in the old site and come up with so many numbers that the next site's coordinates will be among them. Just by accident.
 
The thing about the original ruins that seems to stick out as most relevant,
is the large line (mound) leading from the largest circle, and the other mound towards the bottom and the left of it.
It seems like a rather exact point of construction at the site.

Considering the large line comes down from a circular feature,
I can only assume that it represents a planet.
If it does represent a planet, then the only thing the two mounds could represent to my mind is an equatorial line, and a latitude line.
So the point at which they both meet would be 0,0. co-ordinates,

kinda like this...

https://s23.postimg.org/437o0dd4r/image.jpg

The problem of coarse is this probably isn't the case at all, and the other problem is not knowing what scale the grid should be anyway,
I've tried various different sizes, hoping to match the grid up with something else at the site, but nothing seems to really fit or fall into place.

whatever clue/s we should be following rather using brute force, they must be very obscure, or surely we would be on the right track by now.


It is interesting that if there may be 7 sites (101 scans and 13 intended from the first site) and there are 7 obelisk clusters. Maybe the center of mass of each obelisk cluster is a set of coordinates on your grid. It is difficult to say exactly how the grid should be oriented and scaled. Also longitude is a relative measurement (though latitute is absolute), so also a difficulty, but maybe the ones overlooked.
 
The thing about the original ruins that seems to stick out as most relevant,
is the large line (mound) leading from the largest circle, and the other mound towards the bottom and the left of it.
It seems like a rather exact point of construction at the site.

Considering the large line comes down from a circular feature,
I can only assume that it represents a planet.

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I like your thinking. Some of the designs on the ruins resemble shapes found in the UP spectrogram. What if the central mound does represent a planet, and the shapes around it correspond to its properties. Like the long line is its radius, the line off of it is its tilt, the long shelf to the left marks its gravity, and the rings circling it is a measure of radiation? Maybe its trying to describe this planet, or another one.
 
Looking back over ram tah's galnet article he said explore these systems... he did not say planets... this could mean something is hidden in the system in general... could be in an asteroid field... there are several bands of them near the star or atleast places to drop from sc at or rings of a planet...
 
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Looking back over ram tah's galnet article he said explore these systems... he did not say planets... this could mean something is hidden in the system in general... could be in an asteroid field... there are several bands of them near the star or rings of a planet...

This is a plausible theory as the first time you looked at the system your eyes where drawn to just how many landable planets there are... maybe that was just to distract you
 
I like your thinking. Some of the designs on the ruins resemble shapes found in the UP spectrogram. What if the central mound does represent a planet, and the shapes around it correspond to its properties. Like the long line is its radius, the line off of it is its tilt, the long shelf to the left marks its gravity, and the rings circling it is a measure of radiation? Maybe its trying to describe this planet, or another one.
But what scale will be used? If the distances do represent something[aside from being used to measure angles], we will need some reference. As such, the ruins we found should also contain a map to themselves, otherwise we would have no way of knowing the appropriate scale.
 
I just finished checking every asteroid cluster in the systems Ram Tah gave us. I didn't find anything out of the ordinary. Feel free to double check.
 
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