what about the crew that's required to run thr carrier? are they just working for free?
All this angst over upkeep on Fleet Carriers - why?
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I have read the posts/threads thanks.
Short answer - Well I wouldn't buy one in the first place in that case.
Longer answer - You spent many hours grinding for the 5bn Cr, operated the carrier for a period of time during which you are obviously aware about the upkeep commitment but then you are somehow surprised (and upset) that after losing all interest in the game and not playing for several months... that it's gone?
However there should probably be an option to mothball a carrier, park it in some graveyard facility for a fee and leave it indefinitely with no additional cost until you reactivate it.
Cold stack.
Warm stack.
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So you think you shouldn't partake in the features of Fleet Carriers because you might at some point want to take a break from the game, or real life gets in the way unexpectedly forcing you to take a break?
I don't think any game (key word: game) should force you to keep playing or lose stuff.
The point being that FD don't have to have the upkeep commitment while people are offline. By the same token, it shouldn't be able to passively generate income while offline. Passive offline income is a terrible idea from my perspective.
That's a lot of "whataboutery" you've got going on there!
I made an edit to the above post as although it may not be apparent I am sympathetic to the root of the complaint, just no the hysterical gnashing of teeth.
Honestly think we have to see the context before assessing upkeep.
As I said elsewhere if carriers are interacting with the economy, +50,000 carriers is going to require more infrastructure so some sort of pruning makes sense, it is just what form that takes.
But really as I said earlier the only real issue for me at this time is communication, Frontier could just have left that detail out of the press release and presented it in context in the stream, but no they put out just enough detail to cause concern but not enough to clarify and so here we are.
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@ Cmdr QuantIs Trap
Well I don't agree in that you aren't required to buy a Fleet Carrier, but a DO AGREE in that once you do buy one it's result should be a net positive versus a net burden on your Elite Dangerous business bottom line. When you buy one of these carriers, it should be like you bought Frontier, your now David Braben in space and you have a lot of competent NPCs to help you. You shouldn't have to micro manage the whole business. It fairly apparent that Braben doesn't micro manage his but it's still doing pretty well.
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* Please explain* Well I don't agree in that you aren't required to buy a Fleet Carrier
Well I don't agree in that you aren't required to buy a Fleet Carrier, but a DO AGREE in that once you do buy one it's result should be a net positive versus a net burden on your Elite Dangerous business bottom line. When you buy one of these carriers, it should be like you bought Frontier, your now David Braben in space and you have a lot of competent NPCs to help you. You shouldn't have to micro manage the whole business. It fairly apparent that Braben doesn't micro manage his but it's still doing pretty well.
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* Please explain* Well I don't agree in that you aren't required to buy a Fleet Carrier
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I have agreed with most things that you say
But it's Tuesday not Thursday.
Sorry had to say it, all of the complaining on here is contagious
Tuesday? Thats even better. Lol.
and i thought the wave of bad steam reviews was due to the not well planned way how to aquire the horizons update (not a DLC but a full game) and the failed standalone CQC spinoff
Ha! I hate mining. always have and always will. Almost all of my money comes from true exploration. I play daily as well with nearly 4000 hours, give or take a few very short breaks, and still only have half of what I need to buy an FC. Being Elite in any discipline doesn't really mean much these days. It's really not something to boast about anymore.
Sorry mate you were right My bad
wrong thread
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Lol, when can I start rubbing it in.
It's not a punishment to me, it's an incentive to make sure you manage your resources, of which time is one, wisely. And adding aspects of management is always a good thing in my book.
According to my Calendar, April 2nd is a Thursday...
Sorry
It has to. Think about it. These fleet carriers are persistent and realistically there needs to be a way to remove them after a period of time otherwise there could millions of unused fleet carriers lying around. Having it built into an in-game mechanic in my view is much better then it suddenly vanishing for no apparent reason. These things could potentially lmake money as well as cost money while you are offline. I believe the costs are a balancing factor.
No it's not really unnecessary, they need removing after a while if folk are not logging on, otherwise they are just taking up a place in the instance so only 31 slots left for everyone else because of an abandoned fleet carrier just sitting there.
They could go the Urban Dead route and just remain there but invisible if the player doesn't log in for a while. And where are you getting the "32 slots" limit from?
You suddenly got a notice, without any advance warnings first? That doesn't sound right.