It'll be interesting if VR gets a mention on the upcoming roadmap. If it doesn't, we can park any expectations for six months 'til FD have crapped out the Odyssey fixes and console releases.
Allow the VR '2D screen' to be disabled?
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This is one of those situations where FDev has taken a huge hit and is trying to salvage some goodwill with an attempt at transparency. Thing is, if VR isn't on the roadmap, a lot of players like myself will give up and walk away without giving them another cent. I won't buy Odyssey until it's fixed and includes full VR support. If it's not on the roadmap, then it's goodbye.
Exactly how I feel. I'm not interested in playing without minimal VR (e.g. stereoscopic and head-look) in Odyssey content, and that goes for me reciprocating by buying cosmetics from their store, and I've said this for months. I want to be proven wrong, but I just get the feeling they haven't even given VR any consideration during development, and post release Odyssey needs some serious work even before VR gets a look in, if at all.
Hmm, so if I'm understanding this poster from the vorpX forum correctly...
They're using the side-by-side 3D mode, thengetting headlook viewing in the HMD via Virtual Desktop? Seems they're using this side-by-side mode.
Could be worth a play?
EDIT: Ah ok, it would be a sterescopic view, but just still on a giant screen
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYvn8emlaZo&t=482s
But apparently Bigscreen has an SBS mode too. So will have a go tonight
If anyone has VD and wants to try there / see if it's superior, that'd be good too.
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They're using the side-by-side 3D mode, then
Could be worth a play?
EDIT: Ah ok, it would be a sterescopic view, but just still on a giant screen
But apparently Bigscreen has an SBS mode too. So will have a go tonight
If anyone has VD and wants to try there / see if it's superior, that'd be good too.
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Haha oh god, so I tried it. And any VR nut should probably give it a go. There was a glimpse of how the scale of the stations could really come across like mad in VR.
But no, uhuh. Can't play it like that.
Like, I could probably have played around with the stereo depth more. (I think it may well have been set to 'absurd' because it did look exaggerated
). But ultimately, it was also pretty unplayable. On standard High settings (which I'm getting ok VR performance with in EDO) text was unreadable in SBS, latency was terrible, and the whole affair was definitely knocking on the door of my usually iron stomach. And it's all still just on a big screen . (Even if in the 'void' room of Bigscreen, mimicking head moves slightly with in game camera moves, meant you could drift into it for a bit).Back to the drawing board
I wonder now following the roadmap and communication pledge we could at least get some specific insights into why the ground portions aren't VR enabled. E.g., is it really a performance/framerate concern? Is it someone's idea of a balance concern? An assumption of motion-sickness concern?
Supposedly Bruce is going to start a dedicated 'VR questions' thread soon, according to Arf on a recent stream. Would be a good question to pose there for sure.
Great thanks, I'll keep an eye out.
+1 from me.
It might even get me to buy the expansion.
This update currently offers very little for those of use that exclusively play Elite in VR and is an extremely hard buy in it's current state.
This effort would make EDO much more appealing.
VR is exploding right now and ED has been one of its killer apps since day one. Don't let that go to waste.
It might even get me to buy the expansion.
This update currently offers very little for those of use that exclusively play Elite in VR and is an extremely hard buy in it's current state.
This effort would make EDO much more appealing.
VR is exploding right now and ED has been one of its killer apps since day one. Don't let that go to waste.
Subnautica is surprisingly good in VR. Playing it right now.
Again, I highly recommend waiting for not only a promise, but an actual, playable VR experience. I personally will not purchase until functional VR is delivered.
First le i played in VR and I drowned in this game
Extremely good, it could be VR system seller.
![[VR]HaywirePhoenix](https://d2aefvhu2f0gi9.cloudfront.net/data/avatars/m/235/235721.jpg?1591611117){kind=avatar}
As soon as VR players can experience the whole game in first person I'm buying the update.
For me, it's going to take VR, and stability. It's got to be a more polished product before I'm on board.
Nah, nothing has changed. It's the same scenario we were in already:
What they said was essentially 'no change' to their current stance. Which is:
So VR bug fixes for now, but no plans to go beyond the current 2D screen etc currently. With Zac C following up with:
Initial announcement by Bruce here.
EDIT: And now Arthur with this:
So no change. No budget for a full VR port currently. Maintenance for ship & SRV VR and the 2D screen only.
No great surprise ¯\(ツ)/¯
(If anyone wants to push for a hacky low/no budget solution for now, you know where the thread is right?
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I completely agree, this game needs VR, and after all Frontier still markets the game as "Built for VR".Hello lovely devs!
This suggestion is based on some major assumptions, but it would be great if it were possible.
Initial Assumptions:
- That the stereoscopic render used for ships & SRVs in EDO functions in Legs mode.
- That the 2D screen mode for Legs can be set to toggle on or off.
Suggestion:
Allow players to set the 2D projected screen to 'off' by altering an option file. (In the same way that players can alter their HUD colours by editing the existing XML file, for example.)
Advantages of this approach:
- It could allow very basic VR access to EDO Legs, prior to full official support.
- Only the most dedicated EDVR players would learn of it and want to try it.
- It's a very clear 'opt in' process, where you can't do it by mistake
- It wouldn't be an officially launched or marketed function.
- It would hopefully require a low level of dev work & support at this stage.
Caveats:
I'm sure there are a ton of other considerations which might conflict with this idea (technical stability, impacts on non-VR players) and so make it a non-starter.
And the experience for the VR player would clearly be very rough, even if it were to prove even partially functional. (It would only work for those with their 'VR legs', would doubtless have real issues with UI, and would be unlikely to facilitate full EDO gameplay by any means).
Reasons to do it:
If this system allowed those of us with our 'VR legs' to take in the scale of our ships from the outside, or appreciate a station NPC 'in the round', or even do some basic exploration using classic controls, this would be a massive boon for the veteran EDVR community. The current pause in access to EDVR content is an unusual circumstance. This unusual approach could perhaps act as a temporary bridge to fuller, official support.
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EDIT: A guesstimate of what might be possible:
- First Person: Headlook Solutions
- Opentrack could allow us to use native headlook support(IE TrackIR etc).
- This could be useful if VR headlook doesn't track the character, or if it is tied to the aiming reticule alone [?]
- If EDO has extensive TrackIR settings for FPS gameplay, this could definitely help.
- See these examples from another game: menu options 1 / menu options 2 / gameplay).
- First Person: Quality of Life
- If the core game includes no-HUD options for first person gameplay, that could be helpful.
- (Classic on-screen UI tends to appear very close to the face in VR, making it uncomfortable for eye accommodation etc.)
Third Person: Vanity Cam
Could be the most comfortable experience.Camera view should be able to track with the character.(NB the vanity cam is getting adapted to work on foot).Not designed for gameplay, but could work for exploring environments.- EDIT: Already possible in the alpha!
Any knowledgeable dev or VR heads, please do chip in if you see errors, or other positives / negatives to add
+1 from me, just about anything besides a 2D flatscreen is better.
Thanks Brian!
(If you fancy can you give the OP a 'like' too? Trying to get it to be the top voted Suggestion on record. Send a clear message to FDev etc
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