Modes Almost Four Hours in Private Groups/Solo

[Chaparral]

I personally feel engineers were a mistake it's the same argument I've heard before. Some argue that Solo/PG's are "easy mode" yet those who are making that argument are all engineered to the max and complaining nothing is a challenge with maybe the exception of PVP. And that is why everyone needs to be forced to PVP apparently... because they no longer feel a challenge in the game... It is the same type of argument I hear from the "elite" from all types of MMOs when they get to the high end and gear themselvs to the max they then complain that the game no longer has any challenges and that it somehow is the game designer's fault.

I don't think it's so much that there isn't a challenge, I feel like it isn't very dynamic. The instance mechanics are pretty one dimensional, with very little adaptation required. I think FDEV recognizes this, and built the staged Thargoid responses during combat to address this concern. Also the pirateable megaships in 3.0. It really is just a toe dipped in the ocean though. All of those pre-existing instances we have now: nav beacons, compromised nav beacons, res zones, conflict zones, checkpoints, megaships, distribution centers, debris fields, etc. - there is no special event or boss spawn or threat other than a "critical mission update" which usually is substantially disconnected from the type of activity your currently engaged in.

A high intensity conflict zone with cap ships should be scary for all ships. Not a rinse repeat exercise. It might be fun to have a reputation mechanic that builds the longer you survive in the CZ. More enemies begin to target you as a hated foe. Could apply to a wing too. That would be fun.

 

[Mouse]

I don't think it's so much that there isn't a challenge, I feel like it isn't very dynamic. The instance mechanics are pretty one dimensional, with very little adaptation required. I think FDEV recognizes this, and built the staged Thargoid responses during combat to address this concern. Also the pirateable megaships in 3.0. It really is just a toe dipped in the ocean though. All of those pre-existing instances we have now: nav beacons, compromised nav beacons, res zones, conflict zones, checkpoints, megaships, distribution centers, debris fields, etc. - there is no special event or boss spawn or threat other than a "critical mission update" which usually is substantially disconnected from the type of activity your currently engaged in.

A high intensity conflict zone with cap ships should be scary for all ships. Not a rinse repeat exercise. It might be fun to have a reputation mechanic that builds the longer you survive in the CZ. More enemies begin to target you as a hated foe. Could apply to a wing too. That would be fun.

Pitch the idea to them ^,^

 

[Haggbad Celine]

OP is not promoting Open.
He is mocking PG/solo'ers as being inferior pilots.
I do agree with that.

You call yourself a trader, but can't protect your haulage?
You call yourself a bounty hunter/pirate, but are only able to hunt down very predicatable and underequipped prey?
The frequent reminder of your piloting skills is the rebuy screen?
You can't dock without a docking computer?

PG/solo is the mode you choose.

Open exclusive Cmdrs excel PG/solo Cmdrs in every instance.
Change my mind.

 

[ALGOMATIC]

OP is not promoting Open.
He is mocking PG/solo'ers as being inferior pilots.
I do agree with that.

You call yourself a trader, but can't protect your haulage?
You call yourself a bounty hunter/pirate, but are only able to hunt down very predicatable and underequipped prey?
The frequent reminder of your piloting skills is the rebuy screen?
You can't dock without a docking computer?

PG/solo is the mode you choose.

Open exclusive Cmdrs excel PG/solo Cmdrs in every instance.
Change my mind.

Or a rear admiral in a federation navy flying the most expensive federal spaceship (vette) scared of anything non NPC and whines on the forums when gets ganked LMAO.
"Admiral", I wouldnt let you drive an srv let alone a vette.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

OP is not promoting Open.
He is mocking PG/solo'ers as being inferior pilots.
I do agree with that.

You call yourself a trader, but can't protect your haulage?
You call yourself a bounty hunter/pirate, but are only able to hunt down very predicatable and underequipped prey?
The frequent reminder of your piloting skills is the rebuy screen?
You can't dock without a docking computer?

PG/solo is the mode you choose.

Open exclusive Cmdrs excel PG/solo Cmdrs in every instance.
Change my mind.

If it makes you feel good, yes dear Haggy. You probably are a better pilot in a game than I am. Well done chap! *ruffles hair* Now run along, there's a good boy

 

[CaptainKremmen]

OK, so I get so tired of the True Believers going off on how great Solo and Private Groups are. So, I thought I'd go ahead and give it a try, knowing full well what to expect. I wasn't disappointed.

I bought an unshielded Anaconda and spent an hour trading back and forth without a care in the world, using the docking computer and watching Netflix on my telly due to the lack of attention and engagement the game required. I was impressed with the Blue Danube theme, and lack of risk the mode offered, with the threat of interdiction being absolutely laughable.

Feeling a little upset my cr/hr ratio wasn't great, I put an SRV hangard on my new Annie and went to a nearby system that had loads of ground attack missiosn, which I logged in/out of the various modes 13 or 14 times to max out 20 missions, then flew to the ground attack site, dismissed my ship and parked my SRV next to the generator in my SRV, blew it up and exited/entered the game to repeatedly attack the generator with no risk to myself. I felt great satisfaction and immersion as I smashed the generators. It doesn't matter it was owned by a Player Faction and will have wrecked their influence, because it's a legitimate gameplay choice. Sorry, but you don't own your faction really and it's a shared universe!

Feeling this strange sense in my gut I wasn't getting anywhere near the level of satisfaction I get from flying in Open, I decided Combat might finally give me the fix I needed. Bolting some turret weapons onto my Annie, and replacing the SRV with a fighter and a good crewman I set off for the nearest RES site. The feeling of satisfaction, as my turrets and fighter pilot did all the work, racking up kills and credits while I sat their sipping my tea and literally touching one or two buttons every few minutes was unrivalled by anything that flying as an Open mode multi-role trader has ever yielded.

Profits: 10/10
Engagement: 0/10
Satisfaction: 0/10

"Doctor, doctor, it hurts when I do this!"

"Well don't do that, then."

 

[Electric Kite]

I have no problem with whatever mode a person wants to play.
Its when said person attempts to try another persons preferred mode and demand changes to suit them i get ticked off.

In that regard OP, come on man.

 

[Deleted member 110222]

OP is not promoting Open.
He is mocking PG/solo'ers as being inferior pilots.
I do agree with that.

You call yourself a trader, but can't protect your haulage?
You call yourself a bounty hunter/pirate, but are only able to hunt down very predicatable and underequipped prey?
The frequent reminder of your piloting skills is the rebuy screen?
You can't dock without a docking computer?

PG/solo is the mode you choose.

Open exclusive Cmdrs excel PG/solo Cmdrs in every instance.
Change my mind.

Objectively, this is correct.

 

[Jockey79]

Change my mind.

Well as you've decided to necro for the sole purpose of proclaiming you're better then everyone else, I'd say this isn't an honest "change my mind".

 

[Cowboy Bats]

OP is not promoting Open.
He is mocking PG/solo'ers as being inferior pilots.
I do agree with that.

You call yourself a trader, but can't protect your haulage?
You call yourself a bounty hunter/pirate, but are only able to hunt down very predicatable and underequipped prey?
The frequent reminder of your piloting skills is the rebuy screen?
You can't dock without a docking computer?

PG/solo is the mode you choose.

Open exclusive Cmdrs excel PG/solo Cmdrs in every instance.
Change my mind.

You do know this is a game right? I never leave solo, never intend to. Do I call myself a trader? No, I'm a guy in Texas behind a screen playing a game for entertainment. I might call myself a lawyer, a doctor, an engineer, or whatever fits. If some guy in Hong Kong is so damned good he can blow my ship to pieces from 3 jumps away, good on him. I don't care, I'm not playing with him or competing with him. You and the gank squad being better at the game (will not call you better pilots, because you aren't pilots, you're playing a game) fills me with as much distress as Kobe being a better basketball player when I'm playing pickup at the gym. This might come as a shock to you, but countless individuals engage in hobbies without ever worrying about being the best, and still enjoy their hobbies. Shocking isn't it?

 

[Mouse]

OP is not promoting Open.
He is mocking PG/solo'ers as being inferior pilots.
I do agree with that.

Of course you do.. you've been beating your chest and swinging your you know what around since you started chiming in

You call yourself a trader, but can't protect your haulage?

Trader.. notice it doesn't say Combat pilot... T R A D E R..

You call yourself a bounty hunter/pirate, but are only able to hunt down very predicatable and underequipped prey?

Yup and that griefing is why many left your precious Open for places where they could play without dealing with jerkwards.

The frequent reminder of your piloting skills is the rebuy screen?

Rebuy screens are not reminder of piloting skills, if you think it is then it explains why you have a hard time comprehending things.

You can't dock without a docking computer?

If someone wants to use a docking computer what is the problem? Why are you so concerned about other players and how they play their game?

PG/solo is the mode you choose.

Actually you are wrong, Open, PG, and Solo are the modes people can freely choose between and they often do.

Open exclusive Cmdrs excel PG/solo Cmdrs in every instance.

I cal Buffalo chips on this, Open exclusive Commanders excel over those who play in other modes in "every" instance? If so then why are you and others so ADAMANT about Open only? About how unfair it is that people can do things in Solo/ Private Groups... how and this is the funny part as I've heard it over and over and over... how Commanders in Open cannot compete against those in other modes in the BGS and that it is unfair and BGS needs to be Open only. The funniest part is they could, but they want to do it PVPly refusing to actually play the game and demanding the game changed to their play style.

You crow and boast but that all it is... OECs are just like everyone else, players and they are not the cream of the crop. No they are just players who think they are.

Change my mind.

Red Storm Rising has a quote that I find appropriate here, "That *Redacted due to word used* so ' narrow-minded his scratch pads are only an inch wide!

I find that those who crow "change my mind" are those who, even when evidence is shown to them, refuse to believe it because it contradicts their firm conviction that the beliefs they held are absolute.

So continue to boast, crow, and blatantly claim that you are better than I or others are. Just like the griefers we left moping that they can't kill us, your hollow words ring with false bravado like a teacup chihuahua yipping thinking it is the boss dog and is ignored by the rest of the pack.

 

[Warm Considering]

Of course you do.. you've been beating your chest and swinging your you know what around since you started chiming in



Trader.. notice it doesn't say Combat pilot... T R A D E R..



Yup and that griefing is why many left your precious Open for places where they could play without dealing with jerkwards.



Rebuy screens are not reminder of piloting skills, if you think it is then it explains why you have a hard time comprehending things.



If someone wants to use a docking computer what is the problem? Why are you so concerned about other players and how they play their game?



Actually you are wrong, Open, PG, and Solo are the modes people can freely choose between and they often do.



I cal Buffalo chips on this, Open exclusive Commanders excel over those who play in other modes in "every" instance? If so then why are you and others so ADAMANT about Open only? About how unfair it is that people can do things in Solo/ Private Groups... how and this is the funny part as I've heard it over and over and over... how Commanders in Open cannot compete against those in other modes in the BGS and that it is unfair and BGS needs to be Open only. The funniest part is they could, but they want to do it PVPly refusing to actually play the game and demanding the game changed to their play style.

You crow and boast but that all it is... OECs are just like everyone else, players and they are not the cream of the crop. No they are just players who think they are.



Red Storm Rising has a quote that I find appropriate here, "That *Redacted due to word used* so ' narrow-minded his scratch pads are only an inch wide!

I find that those who crow "change my mind" are those who, even when evidence is shown to them, refuse to believe it because it contradicts their firm conviction that the beliefs they held are absolute.

So continue to boast, crow, and blatantly claim that you are better than I or others are. Just like the griefers we left moping that they can't kill us, your hollow words ring with false bravado like a teacup chihuahua yipping thinking it is the boss dog and is ignored by the rest of the pack.

I know right? Griefing is what it is about. These are players who only enjoy blowing up another ship if they know it's flown by another player, which makes that whole "skill" thing even funnier considering those same players prey on the weakest players/ships they can find. They just want a target rich environment of players to grief.

 

[[VR] Garfs]

You do know this is a game right? I never leave solo, never intend to. Do I call myself a trader? No, I'm a guy in Texas behind a screen playing a game for entertainment. I might call myself a lawyer, a doctor, an engineer, or whatever fits. If some guy in Hong Kong is so damned good he can blow my ship to pieces from 3 jumps away, good on him. I don't care, I'm not playing with him or competing with him. You and the gank squad being better at the game (will not call you better pilots, because you aren't pilots, you're playing a game) fills me with as much distress as Kobe being a better basketball player when I'm playing pickup at the gym. This might come as a shock to you, but countless individuals engage in hobbies without ever worrying about being the best, and still enjoy their hobbies. Shocking isn't it?

this post wins the internet today - have some rep bro

 

[Havvk]

When I play Open mode;

Profits: 0/10
Engagement: 0/10
Satisfaction: 0/10

When I play with my Friends in our PG;

Profits: 10/10
Engagement: 10/10
Satisfaction: 10/10

When I play a PG with PvE rules;

Profits: 5/10 (too busy to dock at stations)
Engagement: 8/10 (everyone want to stop for a chat, I'm busy)
Satisfaction: 8/10 (game feels alive, but I get less done)

There, the truth stings but it's much better for your health!