COMPLETED CG Ammonia World Survey Campaign (Exploration)

[Staarlord]

I'm thinking a Spansh route visiting ammonia worlds plus exobiology along the way will be quite profitable.

This is probably the most effective too because I guarantee you that most people will set out into the black to do this and that is perfectly legal but probably also least helpful to the cause. The ones we’re concerned about are unmapped local (or surrounding within about 500ly of the bubble) staging grounds, from witch Thargoid fleets will charge up their maelstrom devices. Not worlds 10,000ly from the bubble that pose no threat. I’ve been in surrounding areas myself like Synuefe and Pleiades. One exception maybe even being around Witchead and California nebula…all of which we could presume they would be coming from. There is no shortage of unmapped ammonia worlds within 500ly however. As many of these locations would have been discovered back before FSS and most people don’t bother when they see a nav panel littered with “unexplored” tags.

 

[Staarlord]

This looks quite useful.

Marx's guide to finding Ammonia worlds

Welcome to my guide to finding Ammonia worlds! This was adapted from my guide to finding Earth-like worlds, but it seems there's more and more of an interest in finding Ammonia worlds as well. If you read this little text, you'll know how to improve your chances of finding Ammonia worlds. Note...

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Very helpful and insightful. Always good to know likely candidates, but at the same time can enforce bad habits that once again get you ignoring many Star types. I used to follow these sorts of guides, namely for ELW and WW. Then I found out stars like red dwarfs and even the rare neutron/ white dwarf were also capable of presenting some of these world types and it is those I found most amusing. So now I’m back to aimless Star-to-Star wandering. Plus it seems like all things Guardian and Thargoid seem to lean toward Tauri and/ or brown dwarf type bodies. Stars most likely to be skipped by many.

For the purpose of this CG however I’d use EDDB, or the EDM site, for quickest results. Here, we aren’t necessarily concerned with new discoveries, but unmapped ammonia worlds likely to be used as staging grounds. Which means closer to home, or even in-house. There are many of these, given most bubble and surrounding areas l were discovered well before FSS.

 

[Zorbul]

I would not put any trust in those predictions this time, because this isn't the type of CG where people regularly return to the station to turn in their contribution. I guess we will get quite a few big dumps towards the end of the CG.

I suggest that anyone coming from extensive exploration trip go and scan all the maelstrom ammonia worlds too (there are at least nine) before submitting their data. Makes it more exciting.

 

[Coehoorn]

I suggest that anyone coming from extensive exploration trip go and scan all the maelstrom ammonia worlds too (there are at least nine) before submitting their data. Makes it more exciting.

Lmao.

 

[SlickPBW]

ESTIMATED COMPLETION
~71% in 1W 2D 20H 14M
I think, that all people which want to dump their ammonias for CG will have opportunity, if someone want to return to bubble just for this CG- with power of neutrons have enough time

I have been watching the predictions and each day it fluctuates to a peak of 100% completion down to somewhere in the ~60’s. It follows the red “contributions per hour” curve. Between that and (I’m expecting) large data dumps later from people on longer explo trips, as you point out, in the 2-week window I’m expecting at least tier 3, and a reasonable chance for tier 4.

 

[Northpin]

I have been watching the predictions and each day it fluctuates to a peak of 100% completion down to somewhere in the ~60’s. It follows the red “contributions per hour” curve. Between that and (I’m expecting) large data dumps later from people on longer explo trips, as you point out, in the 2-week window I’m expecting at least tier 3, and a reasonable chance for tier 4.

previous one did 1 million in a week, but it had the extended probe radius DSS as reward.
330k in 2 weeks should be more than doable, even with no reward

Edit: and if it finishes earlier, people will still have 4x bonus for 2 more weeks, so they can still get the credits out of it... no FOMO this time

 

[Keragi]

Could the cg affect the flight path of the goids or do you think it's more to keep us busy?

 

[Northpin]

Could the cg affect the flight path of the goids or do you think it's more to keep us busy?

i dont think it has any effect other than being a part of the narrative (aka keeping us busy)*



* and to go even deeper into the doom! theories, it shows consistency with this year's noted reduction in activity in regards to FDev-Community interaction - more weeks with no CGs, less galnet news (down to 3 per week from 5 per week last year), less updates (4 last year, presumably only 2 this year - U15 and U16)

 

[Caballus]

Hello folks,
I'm a bit new to Elite. So I need to scan specific worlds and head all the way to the mentioned station?
I can't even plot a route there because it says: "Not available". Only have a Sidewinder and Viper MK3.
Are the Ammonia worlds even more far away and harder to detect? Seems like out of my reach.

 

[Brrokk]

Hello folks,
I'm a bit new to Elite. So I need to scan specific worlds and head all the way to the mentioned station?
I can't even plot a route there because it says: "Not available". Only have a Sidewinder and Viper MK3.
Are the Ammonia worlds even more far away and harder to detect? Seems like out of my reach.

What's "not available"? Is this a message you get from route plotting in the galaxy map when you try to plot a route to Eta Cassiopeiae?

If you haven't tried exploring at all this might be a bit soon for you to try the CG. I suggest that you don't bother with ammonia worlds, but just travel about a bit scanning systems using the FSS and maybe try out the DSS too. Then try to hand in the data at Angus Manwaring station in Eta Cassiopeiae. All payouts for exploration data are doubled ATM.

If you do find any ammonia worlds on your travels, make sure you sign-up for the Community Goal in the Mission board before handing data in to Universal Cartographics.

I've written a bit about the use of the FSS and DSS here:

Elite Dangerous Hints

 

[Caballus]

What's "not available"? Is this a message you get from route plotting in the galaxy map when you try to plot a route to Eta Cassiopeiae?

Thank you for these helpful tips.

Yes. When plotting a route in the galaxy map to Eta Cassiopeiae from my location which is LHS 3802 at the moment.

 

[Northpin]

Hello folks,
I'm a bit new to Elite. So I need to scan specific worlds and head all the way to the mentioned station?
I can't even plot a route there because it says: "Not available". Only have a Sidewinder and Viper MK3.
Are the Ammonia worlds even more far away and harder to detect? Seems like out of my reach.

• Make sure you sign in to the CG before delivering any data
• Make sure you use an A-rated FSD, smallest A-rated PowerPlant that can provide the power budget, everthing else D-rated (like this Viper)
• Make sure you fit a DSS and a Fuel Scoop
• Make sure you play in Solo
• Make sure you avoid any Thargoid affected system

then use Spansh, enter your jump range, enter the Start system (Muang preferably - since its quite far from the Thargoid maelstroms), a search radius...
something like this (keep in mind i have not checked if the route goes through thargoid infested systems)

 

[Deltus Infinium]

This is probably the most effective too because I guarantee you that most people will set out into the black to do this and that is perfectly legal but probably also least helpful to the cause. The ones we’re concerned about are unmapped local (or surrounding within about 500ly of the bubble) staging grounds, from witch Thargoid fleets will charge up their maelstrom devices. Not worlds 10,000ly from the bubble that pose no threat. I’ve been in surrounding areas myself like Synuefe and Pleiades. One exception maybe even being around Witchead and California nebula…all of which we could presume they would be coming from. There is no shortage of unmapped ammonia worlds within 500ly however. As many of these locations would have been discovered back before FSS and most people don’t bother when they see a nav panel littered with “unexplored” tags.

I'd also add Coalsack in there for good measure. Pretty sure the Thargoids are also set up there if my memory serves me right.

 

[Keragi]

goids can be found around coalsack, but these groups seem more peaceful and just scan you.
If I look at the path of the goids what if they are just on their way from the california nebula to the pipe nebula and the humans, a young astronaut species, just stand in their normal Route they use sice ages?

 

[Cmdr Sharky]

I just happened to be out at the crystal sites on the Sanguineous Rim when this CG started, so I am making my way back using Inara and Spansh to plot a route via a ton of Ammonia worlds. Not going to make a huge dent, if it's at 75k scans already out of 330k. Should land me in the top 10%, although the reward is pitiful. The cash rewards always are. I guess it's more about the ego than the creds.
Now if they awarded a special DSS that fits into a utility mount or hardpoint, that would be worth having... or an advanced core sensor module that integrated DSS...

...actually, looking at Inara, I don't think I have a chance of the top 10%.

...actuallyer, with the x3 credit for planetary scans I probably will!

 

[SergMx]

Maybe the real goal of the CG is to get all the travelers back into the bubble ?

 

[Hellrider]

he cash rewards always are. I guess it's more about the ego than the creds.

But global reward is cool.
4x scanns value for whole 2 weeks.
With 2 weeks CG it give month, if you started any journey with start of CG.
Technically, if I would return to bubble I could sell my 3b data for 12b credits.
Of course, I'm on level when cash is absolutely pointless, to this level that I started donate carriers for my friends just for NOT waiting 1h to gather full team in 1 place (15m jump is blessing if you play with people, which launch elite usually, when you throw idea of doing anything together), and buying trit on STAR carriers to NOT return to bubble for trit. But possibility is possibility.

 

[Cmdr Sharky]

But global reward is cool.
4x scanns value for whole 2 weeks.
With 2 weeks CG it give month, if you started any journey with start of CG.

So as I understand it, I should only turn in the Ammonia world data to the CG, keep the rest for after the CG is over to get the bonus payout, right? Or is it paying out more for regular carto data already?

Technically, if I would return to bubble I could sell my 3b data for 12b credits.
Of course, I'm on level when cash is absolutely pointless,

I'm not quite there yet. I recently hit 1 billion for the first time, then spent more than half of it on a Federal Corvette. So if the bonus payout is significant, then the cash would be a nice-to-have. Still probably not life-changing, but would save me a few hours of cash grinding to keep the rebuy multiplier up to a healthy level. I don't like to operate with less than ten rebuys in the bank.

 

[Cmdr Sharky]

I'm guessing that with the nature of exploration data, there is going to be a flood of data towards the end of the campaign. I'm out there gathering, and haven't been back to drop it off yet. I should do that soon, then head out for another week.

 

[thesmith_de]

So as I understand it, I should only turn in the Ammonia world data to the CG, keep the rest for after the CG is over to get the bonus payout, right? Or is it paying out more for regular carto data already?

During the CG the 4x multiplyer is already active (at the Angus Manwaring station). After the CG the multiplyer depends on achievement.