An open letter poll petition thingy to FD - Free the Cobra Mk 4

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Yup the Cobra Mk 4 is exclusive but there's nothing stopping FD releasing a MK 4b variant with some very minor differences.

There's also nothing stopping them from buffing the existing Cobra Mk IV to make it a useful ship but they seem to prefer to forget about the entire issue instead.
 
Yup the Cobra Mk 4 is exclusive but there's nothing stopping FD releasing a MK 4b variant with some very minor differences.

There is one thing stopping them...credibility.
I sort of like that in a game publisher, it has become a rare trait.
 
As someone who has the Cobra Mk4 and still enjoys flying the bucket of bolts from time to time, I woud be very happy if it became available for everyone.
 
But maybe there are some ways around this. One person suggested a Viper Mk 5 with the same characteristics as the CM4. But then it wouldn't be an iconic cobra. Another option would be a Cobra Mk5, similar to the Mk4 but with some tweaks. (but not any better - make a trade off somehow).

Why not? Moar ship, moar fun. Give it a couple of distinguishing features and we're good to go.

There's nothing wrong with having "trophies" in various forms that cannot be earned again. Entitlement is way too high among folks. But I'd love to see a CMIV equivalent, because...well moar ships is moar fun. Also, I get to watch everyone that's argued about having it realise how bad it is :D
 
The CM4 is one of the most versatile small ships in the game. It has its weaknesses, but also its strengths (mainly 8 slots on a small ship).

So, there are been some discussion on the Cobra Mk4 thread about how many wouldn't mind it if the CM4 was opened up for all players.

But there is a problem. It was promised as an exclusive. Its hard to go back on promises like that. Once done, that's it, nobody is going to believe FD again if they say something is exclusive, and there will be calls for other past exclusive items to be opened up again.

I'm sure some remember the stink some people kicked up over the gold wireframe paintjob for the Cobra when the original white wireframe was an exclusive.

But maybe there are some ways around this. One person suggested a Viper Mk 5 with the same characteristics as the CM4. But then it wouldn't be an iconic cobra. Another option would be a Cobra Mk5, similar to the Mk4 but with some tweaks. (but not any better - make a trade off somehow).

Or maybe give compensation to those with access to the CM4. Maybe an exclusive CM4 paintjob for them.

Maybe FD could run a poll on the topic? See whether anyone would object or has preferences?

Anyone any suggestions for how it could be done with minimal upset? Or whether you agree or object?

As someone who has the ship I really dont care if they make it available to all. In fact it would be better for the game if they did. So go ahead for me!
 


Anyone any suggestions for how it could be done with minimal upset? Or whether you agree or object?

I don't think that FDev can do anything about the Cobra MkIV without basically breaking a contract.

What FDev could do is add more small ships that fit in different niches. One could be a small ship with 8 internal slots, an other could be a new Cobra Mk V (maybe a more combat oriented version or a more exploration oriented version?). The next one could be a Cobra like ship with a centered pilots seat…

More small ships would be nice. Hey, even more medium sized ships and even large sized ships. As long as we get more ships that look different and have different strengths and weaknesses.
 
Don't see why people are arguing about the exclusivity. I thought that was clear and i acknowledged it in my OP.

Forest for the trees, as they say.

Might as well have just started a thread asking for another small ship in the game that just so happened to be similar to the Cobra Mk. IV, coincidentally, of course.

It wouldn't really address the real "issue" most people seem to be having with the Cobra Mk. IV though, in my opinion.
 
It's a red herring the real argument is "I won't share my toys", but that sounds weak hence exclusivity.

They aren't theirs to share in the first place though. Some people just think they are for some strange reason.

I'm pretty sure I already promised my access to the Cobra Mk. IV to someone else two years ago, for all the good it did. Never used the ship myself, nor do I care to, which is also irrelevant.
 
I have access to the Mk4 on Xbox but not on PS4 or PC. Obviously if frontier made it available again I would have to complain and cry a lot about how a miserable scrub like me should have access to something that makes me a special snowflake, that frontier promised would only be available to me and not a filthy Johnny come lately like me!

Why would I care if someone else has the same toys as me? Why not put the Mk4 behind a timed paywall, anyone who doesn’t have access currently would have to have say 50hrs game play and a £4 purchase from the store. It would hardly be pay to win and they could even give players that had the original access requirement a special paint job.
 
I have access to the Mk4 on Xbox but not on PS4 or PC. Obviously if frontier made it available again I would have to complain and cry a lot about how a miserable scrub like me should have access to something that makes me a special snowflake, that frontier promised would only be available to me and not a filthy Johnny come lately like me!

Why would I care if someone else has the same toys as me? Why not put the Mk4 behind a timed paywall, anyone who doesn’t have access currently would have to have say 50hrs game play and a £4 purchase from the store. It would hardly be pay to win and they could even give players that had the original access requirement a special paint job.

Paying for ships carries some dodgy baggage, that's the only reason I'd give it away free with ship skin purchases.
 
They aren't theirs to share in the first place though. Some people just think they are for some strange reason.

I'm pretty sure I already promised my access to the Cobra Mk. IV to someone else two years ago, for all the good it did. Never used the ship myself, nor do I care to, which is also irrelevant.

If support can organize it they can transfer mine to anyone who wants it.
 
I have access to the Mk4 on Xbox but not on PS4 or PC. Obviously if frontier made it available again I would have to complain and cry a lot about how a miserable scrub like me should have access to something that makes me a special snowflake, that frontier promised would only be available to me and not a filthy Johnny come lately like me!

Why would I care if someone else has the same toys as me? Why not put the Mk4 behind a timed paywall, anyone who doesn’t have access currently would have to have say 50hrs game play and a £4 purchase from the store. It would hardly be pay to win and they could even give players that had the original access requirement a special paint job.

Maybe I should start using a Cobra Mk. IV in multicrew as social justice charity work for Elite players who don't have access to it. Something tells me that probably wouldn't go over very well for some reason though.

Oh well. What'll you do? Just what you can, I suppose, which in this case, is nothing.
 
I figure I'll just stamp my feet and say no to it since that's what we do with those sorts of things around here. Exclusive is exclusive right? Not my fault people didn't pre-order! [smile]
And neither is it our fault, as PS4 players, that we've never had the chance to obtain it. Why is it so difficult to understand that this is the reason why PS4 players are so vocal about not being able to have a CM4?

Personally, I've moved on (besides I want a Moray Starboat!) & just keep my CM3 in the garage for my nostalgia trips.

As a suggestion, what has been done in the past is selling pre-order exclusives separately at a later date for a small fee. If people want it bad enough they'll pay for it I guess.. [money]. but does that then start veering toward selling ships and pay to win? <insert thinking emoji>
But this is surely a good compromise. People who want it, get it & FD make some (more) money, but I hardly think a CM4 could be considered in the 'pay-to-win' category. ;)
 
It's standard when the exclusive is timed. Cobra Mk IV was a once off. That means it doesn't ever expire. Frontier would have to change the terms of the exclusivity, after the fact. Hindsight is wonderful, but doesn't solve past decisions, only future ones.

The simplest is frontier releases another ship with the same stats; internal modules and hardpoints. This provides the combination, that's unique, without removing the exclusivity of the original. Which is important, even if somewhat inconvenient.

Just have a poll for everyone who has the Cobra Mk4 I would bet the percentage would point to that everyone doesnt give a hoot if its released now or not after all we have all had our fun with it anyways.
 
It's standard when the exclusive is timed. Cobra Mk IV was a once off. That means it doesn't ever expire. Frontier would have to change the terms of the exclusivity, after the fact. Hindsight is wonderful, but doesn't solve past decisions, only future ones.

The simplest is frontier releases another ship with the same stats; internal modules and hardpoints. This provides the combination, that's unique, without removing the exclusivity of the original. Which is important, even if somewhat inconvenient.

Certain salty elements would even find *that* difficult to stomach... Look at the furore that accompanied the Golden wireframe paint job releases after the silver exclusives from wayback when.

I'm not sure how well a clone would be received.
 
Certain salty elements would even find *that* difficult to stomach... Look at the furore that accompanied the Golden wireframe paint job releases after the silver exclusives from wayback when.

I'm not sure how well a clone would be received.

Not to mention that wouldn't be enough for some other people; they'd now be posting complaints that "First Year" Commanders have two (*voice breaks*) exclusive ships; and if Frontier excluded the "First Years" from this new exclusive ship .. there would be tears of that as well.

So basically, Frontier can't win on this.
 
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