Animal colour variations coming soon, but how about horns/antlers variations?

[levitski]

I know this is just a small detail, but I would love to see antler/horn/tusk variations along with the color variation. It would definitely add more depth to the realism of the animals.

For example:

• animals with horns or tusks could have longer/smaller horns and tusks than others (because they don't have as much variation as antlers)
• damage from fighting, could be shown with broken antlers/horns/tusks
• if we ever get more antler owning animals in the game like moose and different deer species, this feature would be really handy.

Here's an example picture of the variations seen from fallow deers' antlers. Implementing this to the game would give the animals a lot more personality.

If you have something to add, like more ideas regarding these things, please comment them!

 

[YeoubiVix]

If a horn gets broken please note it won't grow back.
Having antlered animals drop their antlers after rut season is over.

 

[Firestar97]

I would absolutely love it. But of course it would be more Work than just adding Fur Variations. I hope if we will get this someday, there will also be Mane Variations for Lions (maybe even a small Possibility for a male Lion to have no Mane because this does also happen sometimes)

 

[NZFanatic]

I would absolutely love it. But of course it would be more Work than just adding Fur Variations. I hope if we will get this someday, there will also be Mane Variations for Lions (maybe even a small Possibility for a male Lion to have no Mane because this does also happen sometimes)

That only happens when the male lion is castrated, which is a practice used to prevent inbreeding in zoos (and even then it's questionable, as the hormone imbalance causes other issues such as metabolic inconsistency). The Mane grows as a result of testosterone, so when the testes are removed the mane no longer grows (a bit like beards in human men). I agree that more variation in mane length and shape would be nice, but going maneless opens the door to other questions.

In any event, Chante made a statement on a thread about adding in more life stages (and a comment in reply to a post about changing the lion model altogether) stating that there were no plans to add new models for existing animals. I suspect that would also apply to antlers, horns, and lion manes, but we will see.

 

[Firestar97]

That only happens when the male lion is castrated, which is a practice used to prevent inbreeding in zoos (and even then it's questionable, as the hormone imbalance causes other issues such as metabolic inconsistency). The Mane grows as a result of testosterone, so when the testes are removed the mane no longer grows (a bit like beards in human men). I agree that more variation in mane length and shape would be nice, but going maneless opens the door to other questions.

In any event, Chante made a statement on a thread about adding in more life stages (and a comment in reply to a post about changing the lion model altogether) stating that there were no plans to add new models for existing animals. I suspect that would also apply to antlers, horns, and lion manes, but we will see.

It can also have other Causes. Stress for Example and it can happen in the Wild. The 2 man eating Lions of the Tsavo are one of the probably most famous Examples for wild male maneless Lions

 

[Aidan635]

I really like this idea! Never thought of this. It would really add even more depth to the game.

 

[xTosca]

That only happens when the male lion is castrated, which is a practice used to prevent inbreeding in zoos (and even then it's questionable, as the hormone imbalance causes other issues such as metabolic inconsistency). The Mane grows as a result of testosterone, so when the testes are removed the mane no longer grows (a bit like beards in human men). I agree that more variation in mane length and shape would be nice, but going maneless opens the door to other questions.

In any event, Chante made a statement on a thread about adding in more life stages (and a comment in reply to a post about changing the lion model altogether) stating that there were no plans to add new models for existing animals. I suspect that would also apply to antlers, horns, and lion manes, but we will see.

This isn't entirely accurate, actually. Maneless male lions do actually exist in the wild, as do maned females. They're rare, but they exist- in fact there's a region of Africa where they're more common, and referred to as "Tsavo" lions.

These are wild lions, born in the wild, and never castrated. This is a natural occurrence in the wild.

Maneless lion - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Firestar97]

This isn't entirely accurate, actually. Maneless male lions do actually exist in the wild, as do maned females. They're rare, but they exist- in fact there's a region of Africa where they're more common, and referred to as "Tsavo" lions.

These are wild lions, born in the wild, and never castrated. This is a natural occurrence in the wild.

Maneless lion - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Didn't knew that it happens so often in the Tsavo Region.
These two are the ones I've meant in my earlier Post https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsavo_Man-Eaters

A interesting Quote from the Article you've shared: West African lions are often seen with weak manes or none.

 

[Murray]

Maneless lions in the wild are often the result of inbreeding. All these other variations would be awesome but I would also want personalities to be added so we can get the unique animals we were promised at launch.

 

[markun]

Just thought I would give this one a bump now we have moose.

Some variation of antler size and shape would be brilliant. Not seasonal variation but the size of antlers each animal has. Swedish moose/elk for example, tend to have less impressive antlers than the Alaskan moose which I believe the in-game animal is based on and it would be great if we had some individuals with antlers that are more like different populations or sub-species.

 

[Aramar]

Also I wish we had antlers from different species as a building piece. It's common in zoos to find a sort of exhibition with different shapes of antlers so that people see the differences and try to guess which animals they belong to.

 

[Markiz]

I mean this is 100% doable, back in ZT2 days this one designer called Eryel and other folk which names escape me, made this pack called From The Past, full of mammoths and extinct rhinos ( I'm talking about ZT2 modding community, just to avoid confusion ), and they did this excellent job were animals would randomly generate with different or even broken horns and tusks.

It was such a little touch, but it worked wonders. It also helps add a bit of personality and individuality to the animals.

 

[horse14t]

My local zoo gets lots of rescue animals so they have quite a few antelope missing one or both horns.
It was really neat to see.