Animal dlc that would not only satisfy most members but also make planet zoo a complete game

[paul78]

I’ve made several wishlists in the past as have many other members but these are the animals that would absolutely make planet zoo a complete zoo builder.

First birds and aviaries I think this is probably the most important thing missing in planet zoo birds of prey,spoonbills,parrots,owls,small birds and so on.

Second otters and penguins arguably the two most requested animals.

Third more small exhibit animals including reptiles,amphibians,and the introduction of small mammals and nocturnal animals as well. Possibly more arachnid and insects as well.


Fourth petting zoo dlc eventually since every zoo seems to have them.

Fifth of course more land animals including monkeys and many more no need to name them as all options have already been requested.

And last of course marine content. I know a lot of people want this one but I’m not completely sold on the idea. Whales and dolphins aren’t normally in zoos so unless they provided the option to make a zoo or marine zoo. Of course theirs exceptions perhaps theirs seals,aquarium options, and a somewhat common dolphin choice is a river dolphin species could work. A big list I know but I think this list pretty much covers all aspects from animals anyway. Of course I don’t expect to get everything but if frontier could include some from each group it would make a true polished zoo sim as well as satisfying most of the communities request

 

[Grayyy]

I think the ''normal'' DLC Packs should consist out of 10 animals and focus on the continents ( So a South-America Pack, Europe Pack etc )
Then besides those, there could be two large expansions: One about flying birds and aviaries, and the other about marine animals, including penguins and otters.

 

[Merit Selket]

I would like to see birds and aviaries
then a petting zoo dlc
after that some continent dlc´s

 

[Kaan]

If there's no killer whales and dolphins, I'd prefer a separate game. A completely separate game about marine animals. But they can add them to the game. Better have a sea map. In this way, you can set up a park in a sea environment, while others can put orca in zoos. Obviously I want to put the killer whale in my own zoo. It's my decision, and this is my game. Others cannot decide, Others people can build their parks there if they provide a marine environment in the game

 

[paul78]

Kaan I agree with you. If frontier did add them plus some build sets and things like that I’m sure a lot of people would use them in their regular zoos heck I would probably throw one in once in awhile. I was only saying if added it would be neat because like on zt2 you could do a regular zoo or make a cool marine park. But yeah it’s no problem if you wanted to mix the two of course you could do that also.

 

[paul78]

The list is just some general areas of requests from the community. It don’t really matter in which order frontier would do them in. I’m very much for more continent packs also. I’m just saying by the time frontier reaches the final stages and move on to another project if they include some from each category it’s a very accurate and polished zoo sim. As for marine animals personally it don’t matter to me if they add them or made another zoo type game with them. But I included them on the list because I know some people want them pretty badly. Like I said tho if frontier decided not to there’s always hope for seals and aquarium animals fish,eels, octopus. Also the river dolphin option would be a nice touch as some zoos actually have them. But these were simply suggestions at the end of the day frontier makes the choices.

 

[Kaan]

Kaan I agree with you. If frontier did add them plus some build sets and things like that I’m sure a lot of people would use them in their regular zoos heck I would probably throw one in once in awhile. I was only saying if added it would be neat because like on zt2 you could do a regular zoo or make a cool marine park. But yeah it’s no problem if you wanted to mix the two of course you could do that also.

We both agree!
I want to do it like in ZT2. So I want to have both water animals and normal animals in my zoo. I do not want to stay locked on a map completely covered with water. I would be very happy if they let us do it like in ZT2. some people wanted a map completely covered with water. I understand those people. That's why, so I said it would be good to have a map covered with water. but I definitely want to do it like ZT2 (Namely, I want to put all kinds of animals in my zoo). but to be fair for both sides, I think they should also provide maps that are completely covered with water. I'm not saying this for myself, I want it to be fair to both sides.
but I don't think it would be realistic, so why? because it's a really hard job. that is, you cannot easily build an aquatic park in an area completely covered by water.

 

[narwhal]

Butterfly gardens, they are at many zoos, but really easy to overlook

 

[NZFanatic]

We won't get whales or dolphins in Planet Zoo. It's getting tedious seeing people posting about it.

Seals, sea lions, and penguins, maybe, if they can do diving/swimming animations, but anyone who expects to see dolphins or killer whales is kidding themselves.

Petting zoo should be at the bottom of the list. While most zoos do include them, they aren't important for conservation except tangentially. We really ought to start with continental packs first to fill in the gaps in the animal roster (black or white rhinoceros and meerkats for Africa, any number of South American species, Australian animals, North American, and so on), and then maybe some kind of bird DLC with a couple new habitat animals and a new kind of aviary exhibit.

I imagine we'll be seeing things like an "Endangered X" DLC (X could be primates, hoofstock, carnivores, and so on) too.

 

[Kaan]

We won't get whales or dolphins in Planet Zoo. It's getting tedious seeing people posting about it.

Don't be so sure. please speak for yourself. And nobody gets bored here. you're the only one bored here.
people can send messages about killer whales and dolphins. this is none of your business. If this is getting boring for you, you may not be interested.
I also accept this as a disrespect to the people here, including myself. There's a lot of people here...

And finally, you can't decide whether to take dolphins and whales. Do not attempt to manipulate.

 

[Mjmannella]

We won't get whales or dolphins in Planet Zoo. It's getting tedious seeing people posting about it.

Never say never. People thought Pterosaurs were out of the question for JWE. If people push for it enough, it can happen.
And shutting down requests like this isn't great as a concept. I really don't think it should be encouraged.

 

[paul78]

I guess anything’s possible. But then again people in planet coaster wanted water park dlc or a expansion and remain disappointed. Different game I know but it might serve as a reminder it’s okay to push it and let frontier know you want it which I’m sure they know but try not to count on it just in case they don’t. But all zoo tycoons and wildlife parks featured some marine animals. And I’m sure frontier is more then capable of doing it a pack of 4-6 animals to start a path a building set and some objects. You never know I know new animations would need to be developed tho. But like NZFanatic said there’s so many animals we need still so it’s hard telling where they’ll go from here. My guess and only a guess would maybe be Antarctica or South America but will see.

 

[Kaan]

The Planet Coaster water DLC did not come because the game engine did not support it. I suppose Frontier had already explained it. the game engine and water system did not allow it. otherwise I was certain they would make an water DLC.

 

[avietar]

DLCs I expect:

• aviaries with bird species
• aquaria with fish species and aquatic animals (like otters, penguins, seals, and sirenia)
• continent packs
• specific species packs (like cats, reptiles, you name it) or 'critically endangered' packs.

DLC I hope for:
- extinct mammals

I'm not holding out for petting zoos, whales and sharks. But I respect other people's desire to include them in Planet Zoo.

 

[Tuky]

We won't get whales or dolphins in Planet Zoo. It's getting tedious seeing people posting about it.

Seals, sea lions, and penguins, maybe, if they can do diving/swimming animations, but anyone who expects to see dolphins or killer whales is kidding themselves.

Well, then sorry for being so tedious, but we have the right to state our wishes like everyone else.

If you are implying they are not even zoo animals you are wrong aswell. They are kept in normal zoos around the world, not only in marine parks. The only captive dolphins in Germany for example are kept in "normal" zoos - Zoo Duisburg (bottelnose dolphins and an Amazon river dolphin) and Zoo Nürnberg (bottlenose dolphins). Duisburg even had Belugas in the past. As far as I know all places who formerly kept dolphins in Germany were either zoos or amusement parks. Not marine parks.

Other examples are the Indianapolis Zoo and the Brookfield Zoo.

And then there is Loro Parque of course, which keeps bottlenose dolphins and orcas. Sure they may be the only "normal" zoo to keep orcas, but that still makes them an animal kept in zoos.

And at least theoretical, each zoo (in countries where its legal) could keep dolphins and orcas if they wanted and had the needed space (like in legal requirements), money and of course a source to get such animals legally in the first place. (Loro Parque got the orcas in 2006, thats not soo long ago, in my opinion)
So in that regard I think nothing speaks against adding dolphins/orcas/belugas to Planet Zoo.

Actually Ive seen people asking for animals who are much rarer in captivity than dolphins or even orcas are. For example Saigas. I would like them in the game too, no question. Currently they are only kept by two zoos, though. The last zoo who kept them in the west was the zoo from my home town, the Cologne Zoological Garden. They were pretty succesful with breeding them aswell, however one evening in 2006 the keepers were unable to get the females and their young inside their stable for the night, so they left them outside. During this night however a wild fox was able to break into their enclosure, trying to prey on their young (I dont know if it succeded). This set the whole herd of in panic mode. Saigas are very shy, nervous with a very high flight instinct. So they tried to flee... Run into the fences an anything. Well, the next morning when the keepers found them, those who survived the night had to be put down, because they were all injured so badly. The zoo basically lost the whole herd, only the 2 males survived, as they were kept seperated from the females. They kept Saigas until the last male died, I think that was either in 2009 or 2010. But their breeding efforts ended that night.
And I as far as I know the keeping of Saigas in other zoos quite often ended in an alike fashion. They might not look like it, but they are not doing that well in a restricted space.

But back to the topic about cetaceans, sure they are controversial, but I have lots of faith that the Planet Zoo team would be able to add them in an educational way that would actually make them fit with their message. In my opinion the could just ignore the controversy surrounding them. But if they wanted to touch it, then I am sure they would do it well

About the technical part, I dont know anything about it, but from what is already possible regarding the water in PZ, marine animals should be possible. Hippos can already go under water at least. I know its not real swimming/diving they are doing, but they still can do it. Sure, there are animations missing and there would need to be some special entrances and probaly some other things I cant think of right now - but I do think the basics for marine mammals are already in the game.

Anyways, I dont think its already decided whatever they will add orcas in the first place or not. But if people actually tell Frontier they want them, they may be more likley to be added.

However, when I say whales I dont mean anything bigger than an orca (who are actually dolphins, but dolphins are also whales, so) I do think truebig whales are out of question. I know we will be very lucky if we even get orcas in the first place, maybe also belugas, pilot whales and such - but I dont think we would ever get something like sperm whales or even blue whales. I wouldnt be mad if they added them, but they are too big and not even kept captivity in real life, so I dont see them happening.

I am still all for Frontier making an cetacean DLC only, so that players who wouldnt want them could choose not to get them in the first place. But still get seals, otters, manatees and such in another pack if thats what they wanted.

Its still too early to say they will never add dolphins/whales to the game. Of course I hope to be on the "winner side". I could get dissapointed, sure, but as of now there is still some hope.

But enough of that, I already wrote more about it than I wanted

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Aviaries would be cool, but I sure hope they just wouldnt be exihibits. Well, at least not for bigger birds.

Hmm, for petting zoos I would like that aswell, but if that would really include the guest petting the animals I think that would be harder to implent considering how the guests work/move in the game. Maybe I am totally wrong, but I just think its much harder to change things about the guests than adding new animals

I would also like monkeys, they would be really cool

An Australian DLC, aswell as an European one would also be good options in my opinion.

I only hope they will also release bigger DLCs from time to time, even if they would cost full price.

 

[Kaan]

Well, then sorry for being so tedious, but we have the right to state our wishes like everyone else.

If you are implying they are not even zoo animals you are wrong aswell. They are kept in normal zoos around the world, not only in marine parks. The only captive dolphins in Germany for example are kept in "normal" zoos - Zoo Duisburg (bottelnose dolphins and an Amazon river dolphin) and Zoo Nürnberg (bottlenose dolphins). Duisburg even had Belugas in the past. As far as I know all places who formerly kept dolphins in Germany were either zoos or amusement parks. Not marine parks.

Other examples are the Indianapolis Zoo and the Brookfield Zoo.

And then there is Loro Parque of course, which keeps bottlenose dolphins and orcas. Sure they may be the only "normal" zoo to keep orcas, but that still makes them an animal kept in zoos.

And at least theoretical, each zoo (in countries where its legal) could keep dolphins and orcas if they wanted and had the needed space (like in legal requirements), money and of course a source to get such animals legally in the first place. (Loro Parque got the orcas in 2006, thats not soo long ago, in my opinion)
So in that regard I think nothing speaks against adding dolphins/orcas/belugas to Planet Zoo.

Actually Ive seen people asking for animals who are much rarer in captivity than dolphins or even orcas are. For example Saigas. I would like them in the game too, no question. Currently they are only kept by two zoos, though. The last zoo who kept them in the west was the zoo from my home town, the Cologne Zoological Garden. They were pretty succesful with breeding them aswell, however one evening in 2006 the keepers were unable to get the females and their young inside their stable for the night, so they left them outside. During this night however a wild fox was able to break into their enclosure, trying to prey on their young (I dont know if it succeded). This set the whole herd of in panic mode. Saigas are very shy, nervous with a very high flight instinct. So they tried to flee... Run into the fences an anything. Well, the next morning when the keepers found them, those who survived the night had to be put down, because they were all injured so badly. The zoo basically lost the whole herd, only the 2 males survived, as they were kept seperated from the females. They kept Saigas until the last male died, I think that was either in 2009 or 2010. But their breeding efforts ended that night.
And I as far as I know the keeping of Saigas in other zoos quite often ended in an alike fashion. They might not look like it, but they are not doing that well in a restricted space.

But back to the topic about cetaceans, sure they are controversial, but I have lots of faith that the Planet Zoo team would be able to add them in an educational way that would actually make them fit with their message. In my opinion the could just ignore the controversy surrounding them. But if they wanted to touch it, then I am sure they would do it well

About the technical part, I dont know anything about it, but from what is already possible regarding the water in PZ, marine animals should be possible. Hippos can already go under water at least. I know its not real swimming/diving they are doing, but they still can do it. Sure, there are animations missing and there would need to be some special entrances and probaly some other things I cant think of right now - but I do think the basics for marine mammals are already in the game.

Anyways, I dont think its already decided whatever they will add orcas in the first place or not. But if people actually tell Frontier they want them, they may be more likley to be added.

However, when I say whales I dont mean anything bigger than an orca (who are actually dolphins, but dolphins are also whales, so) I do think truebig whales are out of question. I know we will be very lucky if we even get orcas in the first place, maybe also belugas, pilot whales and such - but I dont think we would ever get something like sperm whales or even blue whales. I wouldnt be mad if they added them, but they are too big and not even kept captivity in real life, so I dont see them happening.

I am still all for Frontier making an cetacean DLC only, so that players who wouldnt want them could choose not to get them in the first place. But still get seals, otters, manatees and such in another pack if thats what they wanted.

Its still too early to say they will never add dolphins/whales to the game. Of course I hope to be on the "winner side". I could get dissapointed, sure, but as of now there is still some hope.

But enough of that, I already wrote more about it than I wanted

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Aviaries would be cool, but I sure hope they just wouldnt be exihibits. Well, at least not for bigger birds.

Hmm, for petting zoos I would like that aswell, but if that would really include the guest petting the animals I think that would be harder to implent considering how the guests work/move in the game. Maybe I am totally wrong, but I just think its much harder to change things about the guests than adding new animals

I would also like monkeys, they would be really cool

An Australian DLC, aswell as an European one would also be good options in my opinion.

I only hope they will also release bigger DLCs from time to time, even if they would cost full price.

Cool!

 

[Caduryn]

We won't get whales or dolphins in Planet Zoo. It's getting tedious seeing people posting about it.

Show me where Frontier officially said that

 

[paul78]

I think it’s just an honest assumption. When the game was getting announced there was mention of orcas but it was later confirmed a misprint. It’s just a assumption based on reality of real zoos that’s all. Not to mention if they did implement whales and dolphins it would need far more advanced animations. Me honestly I don’t know if we’ll get them or not? Nobody does really. But I’m sure like all games being developed the dlc is probably already been planned since day one and just because it’s not released or in game now doesn’t mean it’s not planned and in development. I’m kinda torn on marine dlc just because I’m looking forward to other animals needed more. I think frontier must do aviary dlc even if behaviors and animations are looped. We obviously need Australian and probably two regions of South America yet. Plus more land animals and primates that are monkeys. Plus I could see Eurasian animals as well. Also heavily demanded are pinapeds,otters,and penguins. But marine dlc I’ll definitely purchase it if they release it but we’ll just have to wait and see. The safe expectation is to probably wait for dlc which does take time and be happy with what we get.

 

[NZFanatic]

Show me where Frontier officially said that

They didn't, but they don't have to. It's just a logical deduction. The reputation of facilities that keep large marine mammals like orca and other dolphins has been severely tarnished in recent years, only partly because of Blackfish, to the point that the ethics of keeping these animals in captivity has been entirely thrown into question. It's a divisive issue no matter what side of it you're on, and Frontier has officially said over and over and over and over that PZ is supposed to have a strong focus on conservation and education. Marine parks like SeaWorld are not zoos; they don't keep orca and dolphins for the purposes of conservation, they keep them to put on shows and entertain the public. That's the exact opposite of what a zoo does.

Plus, look at the ludicrous way Frontier handled the polar bear. If they intend on applying that same excessive correctness to every animal they add to the game, then there's no hope whatsoever of ever seeing large marine mammals.

Logical deduction. It's not in Frontier's best interest to get wrapped up in controversy, nor would marine mammals of that scale fit in with the game's overall themes and messages.

I don't doubt we'll receive some kind of marine animal DLC at some point, but it will probably stick to the more commonplace zoo animals such as pinnipeds and sea otters with a helping of aquarium animals such as small coral reef fish.

 

[Kaan]

Marine parks like SeaWorld are not zoos; they don't keep orca and dolphins for the purposes of conservation, they keep them to put on shows and entertain the public. That's the exact opposite of what a zoo does.

we are not to say the zoo anyway. We call these places an aquarium. The organizations that have already approved these places say zoos and aquariums. animal shows are also available in zoos. demonstrations are physical activity for animals, and zoos do this too. for example san diego zoo. Besides, zoos are not as innocent as you think. Have you ever studied the ethics of zoos? Have you ever studied the lies of zoos? no. but when it comes to SeaWorld, everyone talks about his ethics. why this bias? because of a documentary? The Blackfish documentary has proven to be fake. I didn't believe it when I watched it already. The only real event in that documentary is death events. now I will not share a lot of links here about the ethics of the zoos. but you can investigate it yourself.

they don't keep orca and dolphins for the purposes of conservation

Are you sure that zoos keep elephants for conservation? I also want to remind you of the Asian elephant named Billy. I have never seen a zoo leave an elephant in the wild. There are a lot of animals in zoos that do not need protection.
It is very difficult for a captive-born dolphin or killer whale to adapt to the wild. so this is not a good idea. zoos already say this for some animals. This is also the case for lions or large cats.
You may be good at zoos, but I am good at sea animals. I don't want to argue with you for a long time, but you try to manipulate people.

If this game contains polar bears, killer whales and dolphins should also be present. If dolphins and killer whales are not in this game, I will start protesting this game about polar bears and elephants. I hope Frontier will be fair about this. I do not threaten anyone. but if Frontier is visiting San Diego Zoo, he should also visit SeaWorld.
Also, do not rely on a water park that holds any marine mammals other than SeaWorld. but you can rely on approved facilities.

Everyone is wrong about SeaWorld. The prints made on SeaWorld made SeaWorld stronger. SeaWorld is currently much more it is useful than zoos. I can prove it to you in every way. but I don't want to disturb people.
If you want to discuss about SeaWorld, open a separate topic. I can prove everything to you.