Engineers Any tips for finding metallic meteorites once you know are on right planet?

jacozilla

jacozilla
Simple ask for tips/suggestions - with clear caveat assuming I am on right planet. Did a lot of googling since starting Engineers so I know:

1. Prospector thread to find out where and what for confirmed 3-2-1 planets with the rares you need (e.g. yttrium)

2. Wavescanner site that shows precise image and sound of rock types you want (e.g. metallic meteorite double band + the unique sound)

Ok - so my difficulty therefore not how to find a planet with yttrium on it for example, nor how do I know what to look for - the wavescanner site is brilliant in the picture is worth a thousand words, and video images 10k. So far so good.

My problem seems to be never spawning metallic meteorites in the first place. I land, scout around in all compass directions with my SRV, zero MM signs on my wavescanner. So I either keep going for a long, long.....time. With equal lack of MM showing up on wavescanner.

Or I get back in ship as suggested by some, to take off, then land some distance away to get a new 'instance' of the landing zone for chance at MM spawns. But same luck. I have found precisely 3 yttrium in about 40+ hours of driving SRV, actual driving around time. I am 99.99% sure I am not misreading the wavescanner for signs of MM because obviously the wavescanner site can't be any clearer - the double lines are extremely unique, as well as the sound.

So my problem seems to be getting MM rocks to even spawn, vs. not being able to find them because I don't know which planet to look for them.

Any tips / suggestions for consistently spawning MM rocks on known yttrium planets? I'd like to think it isn't just horrible RNG, but so far that's what it seems to be, but as always, open to suggestions.
 
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KonigWolf

KonigWolf
As far as I can tell.. It's just bad RNG.

I've been trying since the update to get "Cracked industrial firmware" (At least 5 hours a day) and haven't found a single one.

Yttrium, on the other hand, I have been quite lucky with. I've found it in ETA Dragonis and Deciat both, along with other rare materials.
 

jacozilla

jacozilla
KonigWolf said:
As far as I can tell.. It's just bad RNG.

I've been trying since the update to get "Cracked industrial firmware" (At least 5 hours a day) and haven't found a single one.

Yttrium, on the other hand, I have been quite lucky with. I've found it in ETA Dragonis and Deciat both, along with other rare materials.
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Sigh....such a nightmare of rng mat hunting combined with rng crafting.

I've tried all the usual suspects - ETA Draconis, Deciat, Junga, Alerai, etc.

Being paranoid, I tried using different landing ships too, in case there was some conspiracy against spawning MM for certain ships. I've found and identified every other wavescanner image/sound by the hundreds but exactly 2 spawns of MM in the usual triplet.

So far, I haven't been able to join in on the complaining about how rare yttrium or other very rare mats are from MM - because even if it was 1% or whatever from MM, I haven't found enough MM to even tell if my odds are good or bad once I shoot the thing.
 

Snowstormy

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I have the same issue.
Was going for polonium on shinrarta a1 but well finding this Metallic Meteorite is plain stupid. I exactly know what i have to look for sound and visual vise on the wave scanner, but they simply doesnt seem to spawn. My first trip to A1 was pretty sweet. found 8 Polonium within 3h. Yesterday it took me a full day to find 3.
I just think its very luck based. Too much RNG.
 

Bomba Luigi

Bomba Luigi
Looking for spots with many Craters is always good, planets with about 1g or higher are preferable they tend to have a good amount of craters. If you happend to go to a planet that also has spots of diffrent colours then a combination of colour and craters will be good place to go.

And don't land inside a crater, land just a bit outside at the edge. and drive around the edge looking for the right signals on the wavescanner. But I wouldn't ignore mesosiderite, while chances that they spawn a very rare is pretty low you can get some good rare ones that you might not need or want now but can't hurt to gathered a few anyway. Maybe you will need them a later point.
 

Cmdr Aeries Hunter

Cmdr Aeries Hunter
jacozilla said:
Simple ask for tips/suggestions - with clear caveat assuming I am on right planet. Did a lot of googling since starting Engineers so I know:

1. Prospector thread to find out where and what for confirmed 3-2-1 planets with the rares you need (e.g. yttrium)

2. Wavescanner site that shows precise image and sound of rock types you want (e.g. metallic meteorite double band + the unique sound)

Ok - so my difficulty therefore not how to find a planet with yttrium on it for example, nor how do I know what to look for - the wavescanner site is brilliant in the picture is worth a thousand words, and video images 10k. So far so good.

My problem seems to be never spawning metallic meteorites in the first place. I land, scout around in all compass directions with my SRV, zero MM signs on my wavescanner. So I either keep going for a long, long.....time. With equal lack of MM showing up on wavescanner.

Or I get back in ship as suggested by some, to take off, then land some distance away to get a new 'instance' of the landing zone for chance at MM spawns. But same luck. I have found precisely 3 yttrium in about 40+ hours of driving SRV, actual driving around time. I am 99.99% sure I am not misreading the wavescanner for signs of MM because obviously the wavescanner site can't be any clearer - the double lines are extremely unique, as well as the sound.

So my problem seems to be getting MM rocks to even spawn, vs. not being able to find them because I don't know which planet to look for them.

Any tips / suggestions for consistently spawning MM rocks on known yttrium planets? I'd like to think it isn't just horrible RNG, but so far that's what it seems to be, but as always, open to suggestions.
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Its all RNG as far as I can tell. Some planets have a higher chance than others. Some planets will not have the type you are looking for no matter how much time you spend on them. Once you have verified that the planet you are on has the very rare material you want eg polonium or yttrium, then just change game modes to reset the rng. It speeds up the process but not by a lot. Just found a Yttrium planet out near the witchhead nebula (lot of permit locked worlds here).
 
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Navigare Necesse Est

Navigare Necesse Est
It is said that driving around mountains might be good. Not in the mountain themselves, the terrain is just too craggy to get a reasonable time to "kill" them (good luck getting there in the first place, because terrain or signal loss.)

I've tried inside craters and that doesn't seem to have had a good drop rate.

Some mountains might have mesas or passes that are relatively flat. Flat terrain makes you go fast, so try that. I was quite lucky there, but it might just be RNG. The way you can look for different heights is by finding specks of different colours.

I've tried to nail down if volcanism has any effect, but I don't even know how volcanism would look like, so even landing on those planets - I have no idea where I should go. I definitely never saw volcanism in action. Is this even in the game?
 

Tyramag

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Does anyone know if the chance to find MM in unexplored space 2000-3000Ly away is higher than in the bubble? Or its the plain % that you see for each planet in navigation map? makes more sence that unexplored planets would have more resourses and very rare material on them but dont know if its actually true..
 

PhanttoM

PhanttoM
Personally, I find it easier to follow the scanner SOUND when the searching for metallic metorites, as the radar sometimes have overlapping mesosiderites — as a result I usually crank up the sound and put on my headset when I specifically go looking for them.

http://www.wavescanner.net/
 

Para Handy

Para Handy
Just drive.....

listen....

watch...

hope..


(P.S. You do know that jumponium elements are also to be found in other types? I was on a moon the other day where niobium, cadmium and polonium were very frequent {relatively speaking of course} in all meteorites.)
 
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Boff'in

Boff'in
The detailed planetary scan, gives you the percentage drop rate.


Now it feels like, that drop rate is used to generate "around" your landing point.

How big that radius is, I dunno.
I go off sound, and expect to travel.

I landed on a planet with both 1.5% of Cadium and Tin - as ever I'm listening for the metalic grind, not the crackle.
At extreme distances it might be a sushhing sound.
Within seconds of landing I hit a meso-whatsits, and got both.
RNGESUS!
but after that it was all crackles and boy did I fly around. Infact there was a lot of "non-spawning".
And when I eventually did start to get metalics again, they were all the common type.

Picked up the ship flew out of the crater (i think landing outside teh spawn area, creates a new spawning sequence), and I found 3 metalics right off the bat, each with tin, no cadium - now considering they both had the same drop-rate.

Just keep track of the sound and directions when you leave the ship. You might have to take care of a few crackkly outcrops to clear the audio field.
Use your headphones.

I tend to land in ravines and craters and coloured patches. But it's been a while since I did Scarab work, not since the launch of Horizons.

And don't forget to fly.
Launch yourself by ramping up small inclines and have four pips to the engines. On low-gee planets you can jet around, especially working your way downhill, tip the front wheel downwards to give you that extra boost forward, and try to land on your front wheels, you can clear more ground and avoid annoying redirections from the terrain. Come to a full stop when you land, and re-locate all the sounds you've been following).

Actually that might be the superior tactic.

Land on the outside of the crater, and jet from the outside inwards. Then recall the ship, and relocate at your ship at intervals around the crater.
 
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xondk

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jacozilla said:
Simple ask for tips/suggestions - with clear caveat assuming I am on right planet. Did a lot of googling since starting Engineers so I know:

1. Prospector thread to find out where and what for confirmed 3-2-1 planets with the rares you need (e.g. yttrium)

2. Wavescanner site that shows precise image and sound of rock types you want (e.g. metallic meteorite double band + the unique sound)

Ok - so my difficulty therefore not how to find a planet with yttrium on it for example, nor how do I know what to look for - the wavescanner site is brilliant in the picture is worth a thousand words, and video images 10k. So far so good.

My problem seems to be never spawning metallic meteorites in the first place. I land, scout around in all compass directions with my SRV, zero MM signs on my wavescanner. So I either keep going for a long, long.....time. With equal lack of MM showing up on wavescanner.

Or I get back in ship as suggested by some, to take off, then land some distance away to get a new 'instance' of the landing zone for chance at MM spawns. But same luck. I have found precisely 3 yttrium in about 40+ hours of driving SRV, actual driving around time. I am 99.99% sure I am not misreading the wavescanner for signs of MM because obviously the wavescanner site can't be any clearer - the double lines are extremely unique, as well as the sound.

So my problem seems to be getting MM rocks to even spawn, vs. not being able to find them because I don't know which planet to look for them.

Any tips / suggestions for consistently spawning MM rocks on known yttrium planets? I'd like to think it isn't just horrible RNG, but so far that's what it seems to be, but as always, open to suggestions.
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Learn to recognise the lines, it can be tricky, there are 3 variation of the two lines over each other.

the one where they are closest together is generally an outcrop/bronzite.
furthest apart can be a few things generally 'Mesosiderite' or what it is called, cargo e.t.c.

the medium distance one though, is always metallic meteorites, and its audio is different as well, though how to explain what that sounds like is beyond me.

http://wavescanner.net/

can help. Course you need to learn their variations over distances, but it isn't 'that' difficult if you take some time to look into it.
 
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Kellan Fell

Kellan Fell
I can't find arsenic to save my life. I've spent hours driving round planets that supposedly have a 2.5 - 3% drop rate and not found a single unit...
 

idahosurge

idahosurge
Kellan Fell said:
I can't find arsenic to save my life. I've spent hours driving round planets that supposedly have a 2.5 - 3% drop rate and not found a single unit...
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When I needed arsenic I found it at Delkar 2. It took me a couple of hours to find two and that gave me six total in my hold. Look at the base of mountains or the rim of craters. It is all RNG, hopefully they will drop for you quicker than they did for me.
 
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