in the U.K If you do an April fools joke after 12pm (afternoon) then the rules are that the jokes on you .... not an April Fools joke I'm afraid ... just a massive let down from FD (IMO)
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April Alpha
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in the U.K If you do an April fools joke after 12pm (afternoon) then the rules are that the jokes on you .... not an April Fools joke I'm afraid ... just a massive let down from FD (IMO)
sir, just a pro tip, starting your argument with a fundamental wrong will, overtime, undercut your message...
alpha reached backers within the estimated time, or did i miss something?!
and to add insult to injury, estimate = rough calculation. if that wasn't clear enough.
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Alpha here and to be fair I don't agree with the early beta access and 50% cheaper insurance - kinda hoping it IS an april fool joke...
On the complaints about beta timescale and alphas hoarding the good stuff:-
Are you really serious?
No one in alpha would be upset if FD came along and said we're good to go for beta - NO ONE.
No one in alpha wants the beta delayed anymore than is needed.
No one in alpha has asked for extra time in alpha stages.
There are bugs which need fixing, issues under investigation and probably quite a few problems we haven't noticed yet;
Is the alpha fun? Yes I've had a laugh and enjoyed myself- however for the most part it's been more like work, test, crash, report, crash, crash, crash....
And with all those crashes the alpha forum has been a bit of a hotbed at times - it got really ugly for the spinning cobra weekend (!). Now if they can get that much grief from a small user base how much grief will they get from 50000 backers if they don't improve the stability before beta?
The people here complaining of broken promises would be the same ones complaining that the game was broken...
As for backing to the huge sum of 20 dollars then coming here and complaining every step of the way - seriously stop the trolling; you didn't even back enough to get a full copy of the game - I spend more money than that filling up the bike with petrol every week....
I don't need to mention your name but it's obvious you should go back to the place your name says you came from
On the complaints about beta timescale and alphas hoarding the good stuff:-
Are you really serious?
No one in alpha would be upset if FD came along and said we're good to go for beta - NO ONE.
No one in alpha wants the beta delayed anymore than is needed.
No one in alpha has asked for extra time in alpha stages.
There are bugs which need fixing, issues under investigation and probably quite a few problems we haven't noticed yet;
Is the alpha fun? Yes I've had a laugh and enjoyed myself- however for the most part it's been more like work, test, crash, report, crash, crash, crash....
And with all those crashes the alpha forum has been a bit of a hotbed at times - it got really ugly for the spinning cobra weekend (!). Now if they can get that much grief from a small user base how much grief will they get from 50000 backers if they don't improve the stability before beta?
The people here complaining of broken promises would be the same ones complaining that the game was broken...
As for backing to the huge sum of 20 dollars then coming here and complaining every step of the way - seriously stop the trolling; you didn't even back enough to get a full copy of the game - I spend more money than that filling up the bike with petrol every week....
I don't need to mention your name but it's obvious you should go back to the place your name says you came from
Yes, I think that in general the estimates on KS are purposely optimistic so that more people would pledge..
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In other words they lied .. not good .. to say I am disappointed with today's announcements would be an understatement ... Damn, I'm annoyed !
I do sympathise with your frustration, but ED is doing a heck of a lot better than a certain other crowd funded space game that has milked the cash cow about 30 times as much
. They haven't technically broken their estimated release yet, but no-one seriously expects therm to make it.At the moment, the insurance copay is only 5% of ship value; while it might go up a fair bit, the alpha insurance advantage might not be too significant.
And smugallo is right about one thing (not that you're an idiot
)... What we've been playing could never be released to the public, as it's been broken, shallow shell of what the game will be. Alpha 3 has gone along way to getting there but still just hinting at the full functionality. Beta will be soon, and much better featured 
For such damning claims you sure have any evidence?
You keep burning yourselves alive. Well, it is your choice, not mine.
What I read actually is that beta builds will be given to alpha testers few days earlier, most likely to catch show stopper bugs and avoid whining what we have seen during some alpha builds. It is actually a good thing.
You somehow see it as a bad thing and insult.
Alpha 3.4
Alpha 3x still lots of basic in-play bugs and delays as would be expected from an alpha, but have to say it is showing promise for the beta and beyond.
Alpha testers need patience ! Would wait for the beta, as I have lost 3 equipped cobras MKIII ships (ie. needing fair amount of shooting to build credits for each) for daft gameplay reasons eg. crashing at speed into spinning capital ships that suddenly appear in front of me (ie. boom !), spontaneous ship overheating (boom!), and general crashing that has caused the loss of a ship for reasons I cannot even fathom.
As an Alpha player you have the pleasure of gradually building up a ship, adding weaponry etc..., then lose it (3 times for me now !) so hopefully they will sort out these issue before the beta.
But rest assured, the alpha is showing its well worth the wait for the final version.....despite the repeated ship losses(
Alpha 3x still lots of basic in-play bugs and delays as would be expected from an alpha, but have to say it is showing promise for the beta and beyond.
Alpha testers need patience ! Would wait for the beta, as I have lost 3 equipped cobras MKIII ships (ie. needing fair amount of shooting to build credits for each) for daft gameplay reasons eg. crashing at speed into spinning capital ships that suddenly appear in front of me (ie. boom !), spontaneous ship overheating (boom!), and general crashing that has caused the loss of a ship for reasons I cannot even fathom.
As an Alpha player you have the pleasure of gradually building up a ship, adding weaponry etc..., then lose it (3 times for me now !) so hopefully they will sort out these issue before the beta.
But rest assured, the alpha is showing its well worth the wait for the final version.....despite the repeated ship losses
(Well, I have circumstantial evidence. I have backed maybe 8 game development projects on KS, and they have (almost) all missed their estimates on delivery dates ..
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Well, I'm pledged up to Beta too ..
I just don't see the point in worrying about when that will be
Beta will be less buggy, by definition, no?
Would it seem better if they were overly pessimistic - just in case to avoid making a mistaken estimate - and then fewer people pledged so the game didn't hit it's target?
It seems fairly obvious looking at this and other games in progress that an iterative development process isn't an exact science that runs like clockwork to a precise timetable...
It is meant that any beta build gets selected testing first using alpha testers, to avoid shower showstopper builds to beta players.
What we've been playing could never be released to the public, as it's been broken, shallow shell of what the game will be. Alpha 3 has gone along way to getting there but still just hinting at the full functionality. Beta will be soon, and much better featured
It is an Alpha, of course it is content free, look at how Arma 3 released ..with no real content ... it's an alpha no-one expects that to be released as a game!.. not even the Spanish inquisition ... and now I don't really care about the release of the Beta as what I paid for will be played by others first ... Someone at Frontier has dropped the ball and it's bouncing toward someone else... I personally feel let down .. if people don't feel that way the fine but me ..... let
down.
@Pecisk - I do see it as an insult ... why should something I have paid for, to test ... be tested by others so it isn't broken when I get it .. I paid to test ... not play ... if I paid for the game ... I would have just brought the game ... not £100 that stopped me eating for a week, yes, I am that poor!
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This right here.....
I dont understand most posts here and i been patient even a rock wud envy (including most beta pledgers) i am just happy and over the moon we closing in on Premium beta even if its stil 3(4) weeks away stil Just hope this aint an april fool joke i wud take that as bad taste and rub me the wrong way. But until this is confirmed i will have a smile that split my face in 2
There is no frustration, just pointing out terrible business practice.
Let´s not go off topic and compare with the "certain other crowd funded space game" which grants alpha access to everyone for 30$, delivers 3 video shows and 5 news posts per week.but ED is doing a heck of a lot better than a certain other crowd funded space game that has milked the cash cow about 30 times as much
who cares? Will they be holding back alpha modules from lower tier backers, suddenly adding some "early access" ?
Nope. But maybe they should try that, I´d love to see what would happen.
But then why so much angst? You will get beta. No, you won't be at disadvantage, alpha testers will receive few days earlier, you will get good beta build with much more features than any alpha build.
If waiting makes people angsty, it's understandable, but let's be honest then.
+1; I REP you Toumal!