'Attack of the AI' III

How is the AI for you in 2.1.02?

  • I'm too young to die! (Waaay too easy)

    Votes: 25 3.1%
  • Hey' not too rough (Too easy)

    Votes: 89 11.2%
  • Hurt me plenty (About right)

    Votes: 365 46.0%
  • Ultra-Voilence (Too hard)

    Votes: 231 29.1%
  • Nightmare! (Waaay too hard)

    Votes: 84 10.6%

  • Total voters
    794
  • Poll closed .
One quite amusing AI bug is that they will now regularly chase you right up to a station where they proceed to get obliterated. Often I land and just watch the fireworks.
 
... 100million credits to EVERYONE who had lost ships or had to reconfirute ships. if they got big ships they may transfer 500mill credits.

lord im so p i s s e d.

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To me it sounds like you're saying, "destroy the game for 70% of players and give me money for suggesting it!!! I am so &#$$&@ !! RarrrrrRRRRR!!!"

Relax. Watch the Frontier tutorials. Read a post by 777Driver on escape tactics. Be wise about your encounters. And be kind to the people that are (or were before the 2.1.02 AI nerf) actually enjoying the game for the first time, again.
 
so you suggesting after im being       i give him a bj to make him smile?    .
you cant change the AI that way after years that much and dont expect some damn angry ppl.

if you are a devote guy which makes you say thank you after being      . FINE. but thats not fine for me.
 
To me it sounds like you're saying, "destroy the game for 70% of players and give me money for suggesting it!!! I am so &#$$&@ !! RarrrrrRRRRR!!!"

Relax. Watch the Frontier tutorials. Read a post by 777Driver on escape tactics. Be wise about your encounters. And be kind to the people that are (or were before the 2.1.02 AI nerf) actually enjoying the game for the first time, again.

I'm glad you're enjoying the game since 2.1 dropped. For very many of us, a game we greatly enjoyed, for some of us our very favorite game, has been taken away, and it's looking unlikely we'll ever be able to play it again. Can't you be happy with playing the game that's now tuned for your skill level?
 
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They've already destroyed the game for... well, I can't say 70%, not having any stats to work with, but it sure seems like a LOT from what I see on the forums.

I'm afraid I can't be kind because I can NO LONGER PLAY. The game has been taken away from me entirely. There's nothing left for me here, and that's the case for a lot of people... perhaps most seriously, including NEW people.

As far as I'm concerned, giving me all the credits in the universe is worthless because no matter how much I have, I still can't actually PLAY anymore.
 
To me it sounds like you're saying, "destroy the game for 70% of players and give me money for suggesting it!!! I am so &#$$&@ !! RarrrrrRRRRR!!!"

Relax. Watch the Frontier tutorials. Read a post by 777Driver on escape tactics. Be wise about your encounters. And be kind to the people that are (or were before the 2.1.02 AI nerf) actually enjoying the game for the first time, again.

Guess what. he and others are not asking for your advice and heres another tool tip...they are sharing their experience and points of view which are equally valid to yours and anyone else in the old boys club. So why not take a bloody chair as we have heard yours and others points of view 1000 times already,
 
Guess what. he and others are not asking for your advice and heres another tool tip...they are sharing their experience and points of view which are equally valid to yours and anyone else in the old boys club. So why not take a bloody chair as we have heard yours and others points of view 1000 times already,

Be fair now. He's as entitled to post his view, whether we agree or not. I may not agree with him, but I'll defend his right to express his opinion.
 
I think the damage/defense of Elite ranked ships got nerfed too much. Whenever an elite ship interdicts me, I just stand stationary and let my turrets do the killing. They seldom use their SCBs and their weapons are no longer that painful as before. The only time I got excited was yesterday, when a deadly ranked FAS took my shield in only 2 shots with torpedoes. That was the only time an NPC ship was worth destroying with all skills.
 
I think the damage/defense of Elite ranked ships got nerfed too much. Whenever an elite ship interdicts me, I just stand stationary and let my turrets do the killing. They seldom use their SCBs and their weapons are no longer that painful as before. The only time I got excited was yesterday, when a deadly ranked FAS took my shield in only 2 shots with torpedoes. That was the only time an NPC ship was worth destroying with all skills.


Ok, try that in a Sidewinder, or an Adder, or a Type 6.
 
I'm glad you're enjoying the game since 2.1 dropped. For very many of us, a game we greatly enjoyed, for some of us our very favorite game, has been taken away, and it's looking unlikely we'll ever be able to play it again. Can't you be happy with playing the game that's now tuned for your skill level, and not be such an insufferable sh*t to those of use who are sad to have lost the game we loved so much?

I am definitely not trying to taunt you. Just frustrated with the all of the blaming the game for what is essentially user error. And no I cannot be happy with the current AI because it has been largely neutered since patch 2.1.02. I am actually trying not to be angry at people that caused this unholy nerf. Praying that it is just a bug. But mostly I am worried that Frontier will give even deeper into the fear and ignorance of players that can't be bothered to learn the game they claim to care about so much.

So no I will not sit silently and let you guys bash SJA's work of art with your pity party. It is a masterpiece in my eyes and I will defend it to the hilt.
 
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I am definitely not trying to taunt you. Just frustrated with the all of the blaming the game for what is essentially user error. And no I cannot be happy with the current AI because it has been largely neutered since patch 2.1.02. I am actually trying not to be angry at people that caused this unholy nerf. Praying that it is just a bug. But mostly I am worried that Frontier will give even deeper into the fear and ignorance of players that can't be bothered to learn the game they claim to care about so much.

So no I will not sit silently and let you guys bash SJA's work of art with your pity party. It is a masterpiece in my eyes and I will defend it to the hilt.

I wish there was some way we could both have the game we love. I'm genuinely glad at least one of us can.

Cheers.

Edit: a closer reading of your post makes it sound like you, too, are being shut out by changes to the game that are outside of your control, and it makes my post seem callous in that context. My bad. I hope that, if I can't get back the game I lost, that at least they put it in a state that you can enjoy. The biggest tragedy would be if, by splitting the difference between my preferred playstyle and yours, they end up ruining the game for everybody.
 
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I bow to you Sarah Jane Avory. You did a really really awesome job. The game is so much more tense than it used to be. Looking forward to see the AI for the Thargoids :D
 
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You're not supposed to fight elite ranked NPCs with those types of ships. No wonder there's a lot of whining because of people not knowing about their ship capabilities in the first place.


Ok, then WHY am I constantly attacked by them?
Either way, a slower less maneuverable ship should NOT be outmaneuvering a smaller MORE maneuverable ship, regardless of the rating of the pilot.

I'm a good driver. I've been driving for a LONG time. I've even done a little racing. No matter how skilled I am, I can't make my car go faster than the car can go, or turn tighter than the car is able to turn. Right now, the "AI" is doing just that.
 
I wish there was some way we could both have the game we love. I'm genuinely glad at least one of us can.

Cheers.

Edit: a closer reading of your post makes it sound like you, too, are being shut out by changes to the game that are outside of your control, and it makes my post seem callous in that context. My bad. I hope that, if I can't get back the game I lost, that at least they put it in a state that you can enjoy. The biggest tragedy would be if, by splitting the difference between my preferred playstyle and yours, they end up ruining the game for everybody.

Appreciate the sentiment, but the game is already deep into the compromise stage. I am one of the people who thinks it's way too easy now. In fact, I have not logged in today because of my experience playing with the neutered AI on Friday was so disheartening.

I had to go out attack police and put large bounties on my head just get the same feeling from 2.1.01. I am not a criminal or a pirate. I do not enjoy attacking the police. But if I play the game I want to play it, then the NPCs are all like tame kittens in a box since 2.1.02.
 
Ok, then WHY am I constantly attacked by them?
Either way, a slower less maneuverable ship should NOT be outmaneuvering a smaller MORE maneuverable ship, regardless of the rating of the pilot.

I'm a good driver. I've been driving for a LONG time. I've even done a little racing. No matter how skilled I am, I can't make my car go faster than the car can go, or turn tighter than the car is able to turn. Right now, the "AI" is doing just that.

1. Invest on shields and shield boosters. Not having them is not an excuse for a non-combat ship.
2. Get chaff launcher.
3. When you get interdicted. Zero throttle, then boost.
4. Put 4 pips to SYS and 2 pips to ENG.
5. Deploy chaff when NPC starts to hit you.
6. Try not to run on a straight line. NPCs can hit you easily.
7. If the NPC can mass-lock you, high wake.
8. Another trick is boost towards your attacker, past through them. Usually they won't chase you after that and even let you low wake.

I've been trading with my Asp Explorer and doing fine even when 2 Elites were attacking me on few occasion after getting interdicted.
 
Be fair now. He's as entitled to post his view, whether we agree or not. I may not agree with him, but I'll defend his right to express his opinion.

As I said, his opinion is as valid as anyone elses.

When someone's response is geared to invalidate the opnion of another indiivual through the camouflage of offering unsolicited advice then it isnt an opinion now is it.
 
So no I will not sit silently and let you guys bash SJA's work of art with your pity party. It is a masterpiece in my eyes and I will defend it to the hilt.

This is funny ;)

Please let the testimonials come, positive and negative. Accept that while you may have just got what you want, many more already had what they wanted and all their effort has been undermined.

The 70% you quote has little basis in fact, remember Pareto & think about which side of that you are on.
 
Appreciate the sentiment, but the game is already deep into the compromise stage. I am one of the people who thinks it's way too easy now. In fact, I have not logged in today because of my experience playing with the neutered AI on Friday was so disheartening.

I had to go out attack police and put large bounties on my head just get the same feeling from 2.1.01. I am not a criminal or a pirate. I do not enjoy attacking the police. But if I play the game I want to play it, then the NPCs are all like tame kittens in a box since 2.1.02.

I'm right on the edge with the 2.1.02. Yes, it feels easier sometimes, but i had great fights too. So i can live with it. But, if there will be another of these AI ''tweaks'', we are really screwed. If people can't handle this AI, whats going to happen when the Aliens will arrive. They are supposed to be brutal.
 
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