Autumn DLC Speculation

Sorry! September 5th. It's a long holiday weekend, Labor Day is on a Monday. Not a good time for announcements, lots of people (me included) are doing their last summer traveling around that time. Mid September is probably the earliest we hear anything.
If I remember correctly we had this situation already one time... all americans being 100% sure Frontier would never announce anything on their holiday, but then they did. So I wouldn't base my assumption on a holiday that's not world wide and therefore maybe not even on their radar much.
Nevertheless the beginning of septembre just feels too close because of the conservation pack not even out that long.
 
If I remember correctly we had this situation already one time... all americans being 100% sure Frontier would never announce anything on their holiday, but then they did. So I wouldn't base my assumption on a holiday that's not world wide and therefore maybe not even on their radar much.
Nevertheless the beginning of septembre just feels too close because of the conservation pack not even out that long.
Agree (on both points but mainly to the second one). Early September would seem really early. I'm feeling like at earliest we would see a release is mid-September, so it's possible that if in the unlikely event it did come that early we'd see teasers/etc at the beginning of September, which has the American holiday in it, which shouldn't really affect Frontier's activity since they're not an American company.

Anywhere from the 15th of September to the 12th of October is probably the expected range. So first of September to first October for announcements/reveals. Unlike last year, we should probably not get ourselves into a frenzy if nothing's been announced by mid September, since we know there should be something coming soon.
 
Agree (on both points but mainly to the second one). Early September would seem really early. I'm feeling like at earliest we would see a release is mid-September, so it's possible that if in the unlikely event it did come that early we'd see teasers/etc at the beginning of September, which has the American holiday in it, which shouldn't really affect Frontier's activity since they're not an American company.

Anywhere from the 15th of September to the 12th of October is probably the expected range. So first of September to first October for announcements/reveals. Unlike last year, we should probably not get ourselves into a frenzy if nothing's been announced by mid September, since we know there should be something coming soon.
I'm going on a 6 month trip on september 15th so I'd love an earlier release, but it's unlikely. So I'd probably get to play with the next 2 packs only in 2023.
 
This is great news. I wonder if we'll actually get the DLC in September rather than October. Not getting my hopes up too much, and am still going to expect early October like last year, but I wouldn't complain if it were a few weeks before that.

One thing I also have anticipating is marking animals off the meta/personal wish lists. We all have ideas for packs. When a new pack comes out, we get to reconfigure a lot of those due to the new animals being included.
Given the real possibility that this is going to be our last animal pack, I just hope they actually do mark off a lot of the most popular remaining suggestions. I loved the wetlands pack, but it only had 3 actually highly requested animals and one mid-level request. Compare to NA where it was 5 popular requests and 2 mid-levels. Hopefully it’s more like that setup this time.
 
Given the real possibility that this is going to be our last animal pack, I just hope they actually do mark off a lot of the most popular remaining suggestions. I loved the wetlands pack, but it only had 3 actually highly requested animals and one mid-level request. Compare to NA where it was 5 popular requests and 2 mid-levels. Hopefully it’s more like that setup this time.
I can understand that and agree if it ends up being the second to last pack. I still think it's possible - not likely but possible - that if there's only two packs left they may both me animal packs. Either way, that's just 16 instead of 13 animals, and maybe an anniversary clone. I share the hopes that if we do just have two packs left they should try to find themes that will mark has many of those highly requested animals off, while at the same time taking design work hours into consideration.

Given that, I'm not sure how many animals left would take comparatively a lot vs not a lot of amount of work. In that I'm thinking a sloth and a porcupine may fall into "a lot" of work. But as mentioned in another thread, they may be among the handful of animals left that the general public would actually know about. Not that we're "general public" here, but rather zoo and animal enthusiasts, just going from a broader marketing demographic.
 
I still think that we are getting a forest/woodlands DLC. The update could add brachiation to the orangutans, which live in the tropical rainforest. Then we could get a mix of animals from different continents, which seems the way Frontier is adding new animals this year. It would focus on temperate animals, but it could include some tropical animals too.
 
I still think that we are getting a forest/woodlands DLC. The update could add brachiation to the orangutans, which live in the tropical rainforest. Then we could get a mix of animals from different continents, which seems the way Frontier is adding new animals this year. It would focus on temperate animals, but it could include some tropical animals too.
This would be ideal for me. I’d fear if we got a general ‘forests’ animal pack, that the focus would fall onto the tropical animals rather than temperate. However, a pack focused strictly on temperate woodlands would rule out the sloth and the red river hog (two animals I’d love to see sooner rather than later). I’d be really happy with a forests pack that focused on the temperate side of things but still could include the sloth and the hog!
 
Either temperate or tropical is my take.
Combining them will just do the temperate animals dirty, Either adding ~2 and no primarly temperate pack in the future or simply stealikg ~2 slots from a primatly temperate pack for tropical animals, which for sure will get multiple more packs if support continues.
So just let it be either 7 temperate/cold or 7 tropical.
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Either temperate or tropical is my take.
Combining them will just do the temperate animals dirty, Either adding ~2 and no primarly temperate pack in the future or simply stealikg ~2 slots from a primatly temperate pack for tropical animals, which for sure will get multiple more packs if support continues.
So just let it be either 7 temperate/cold or 7 tropical.
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I kinda disagree here. For example, the wetlands pack was mostly tropical/grasslands animals, but they still got to add a temperate/taiga one with the crane (and the platypus). So if we get a forest DLC that gives one or two slots to tropical animals instead of all temperate, I don't think they would be stealing animals from the temperate biome which could still be added in many other future DLC.
 
The difference is, forests are more diverse then wetlands for marketing purposes.
Marketing 2 different packs as temperate forest tropical forest is easy, hot and cold climate wetland on the other hand wouldnt go as smoothly.
There are also quite a few more then 14 animals that live in forests that would be a great addition to the game, while the only things wetlands are still missing are more waterfowl.
 
Either temperate or tropical is my take.
Combining them will just do the temperate animals dirty, Either adding ~2 and no primarly temperate pack in the future or simply stealikg ~2 slots from a primatly temperate pack for tropical animals, which for sure will get multiple more packs if support continues.
So just let it be either 7 temperate/cold or 7 tropical.
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Agree. Generic forest pack is dumb idea.
 
I just want the pack that can bring us the most birds. If not a dedicated bird pack, something like an Oceania pack seems to be one of the themes that got a chance of adding more than one bird, with emu and kiwi being the obvious choices.
And if they go nuts with a 3rd bird they could go into the more surprising but perhaps welcoming territory like one of these: Black Swan, Little Blue Penguin, Victorian Crowned Pidgeon, I could keep going...

An Oceania pack could also be the first time we will see a pack without a Carnivora, which I think would be fair to skip for once.
 
Woodlands pack, rainforest pack, nocturnal animals pack, birds pack, oceania pack... all of them awesome ideas so i guess what ever we get is a win win situation. Any pack we get will include fan favorites and highly requested animals. Like others said i just hope we get birds and primates in it what ever it is.
 
Agree. Generic forest pack is dumb idea
I think that, because tropical rainforests are very different compared to temperate forests. Both biomes are very different if we look at fauna it can offer. Tropical rainforest excel in arboreal species, whereas temperate forests shine in terrestial animals. Both areas offer vastlty different environments.

Compare it to grasslands. They supports grazing species and grasses. Grasslands arent much different across the globe. Wetlands offer animals adapted to semi-aquatic lifestyle. Most biomes offer same challanges no matter of location.

And now we have tropical rainofrests and temperate forests. Evergreen rainforests always support primates, and other arboreal spiecies with constats food sources with giantic trees and dense foliage. Temperate forests are recent and mostly act as refuge for adaptable animals from pleistocene steppes with seasonal winters.

I think both biomes deserve separate packs. There is reason why both biomes are always listed as separate. Completly different environments, which include different animal groups and behaviors.

Examples:
1. Rainforests with spider monkey, tamarin, guereza, tree kangaroo, brazilian porcupine, sloths
2. Temperate forests with raccoon, red deer, tasmanian devil, wisent, wallaby, wild boar

Both packs can coexist and generic forest dlc would only hurt potential of both packs.
 
I think that, because tropical rainforests are very different compared to temperate forests. Both biomes are very different if we look at fauna it can offer. Tropical rainforest excel in arboreal species, whereas temperate forests shine in terrestial animals. Both areas offer vastlty different environments.

Compare it to grasslands. They supports grazing species and grasses. Grasslands arent much different across the globe. Wetlands offer animals adapted to semi-aquatic lifestyle. Most biomes offer same challanges no matter of location.

And now we have tropical rainofrests and temperate forests. Evergreen rainforests always support primates, and other arboreal spiecies with constats food sources with giantic trees and dense foliage. Temperate forests are recent and mostly act as refuge for adaptable animals from pleistocene steppes with seasonal winters.

I think both biomes deserve separate packs. There is reason why both biomes are always listed as separate. Completly different environments, which include different animal groups and behaviors.

Examples:
1. Rainforests with spider monkey, tamarin, guereza, tree kangaroo, brazilian porcupine, sloths
2. Temperate forests with raccoon, red deer, tasmanian devil, wisent, wallaby, wild boar

Both packs can coexist and generic forest dlc would only hurt potential of both packs.
That's of course assuming there are more than 2 packs left. If there are only 2 left, a "forest" pack to knock off a number of fan favorites all at once can be the way to go, the way they used the Conservation Pack to knock off 3+1 very popular animals, and the mildly popular oryx. I think the fact they used the horse is actually a bit concerning, as it would've been the best headliner for any grassland/scrubland/desert pack, and putting it together with the leopard was a sign of nearing the end of support (yea yea I'm being doomy I know).
 
That's of course assuming there are more than 2 packs left. If there are only 2 left, a "forest" pack to knock off a number of fan favorites all at once can be the way to go, the way they used the Conservation Pack to knock off 3+1 very popular animals, and the mildly popular oryx. I think the fact they used the horse is actually a bit concerning, as it would've been the best headliner for any grassland/scrubland/desert pack, and putting it together with the leopard was a sign of nearing the end of support (yea yea I'm being doomy I know).
Secretary bird, emu, wombat, and maned wolf would all make good grasslands headliners. I'm certain we'll see some sort of grasslands/drylands biome pack before support ends and getting the P. Horse and the Oryx in the conservativation pack just means there will be more room for potential weirdos like the mara.
 
I dont think the horse was a bad sign at all.
Just look at the pack.
All things are good, but niche additions.
Great exhibit, but its an exhibit so just a boni if anything.
Leopard is a clone with its niche allready covered completly by the siberian tiger and somewhat by the snow leopard.
Scimitar Horned Onix is really cool from a zoo geek perspective, but from a mire casual perspective yeah its just a bit different looking gemsbock.
The building theme is cool, but very niche and not for everyone.
Even the siamang can be arguably seen as quite gimmicky with the new climbing frames that are kinda ugly and massive.

The only thing that was 100% percieved great in the pack was the wild horse and thats honestly needed for such a potentially very mediocre pack depending on the preferances of the consumer.
So it was quite the smart chouce to include this very well liked and demanded animal in the pack.
 
Secretary bird, emu, wombat, and maned wolf would all make good grasslands headliners. I'm certain we'll see some sort of grasslands/drylands biome pack before support ends and getting the P. Horse and the Oryx in the conservativation pack just means there will be more room for potential weirdos like the mara.
Exactly. Plenty of grassland animals that can "lead" a pack other than the horse. The horse was good choice for a conservation theme.
 
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