Horizons Base assault!

fus roh potato

fus roh potato
If it was intended for me to fly in a wing for these missions, then why aren't they wing missions? IIRC, they don't get rewards to help me, there are no LFW tools in game, or even methods to broadcast to local sectors asking for help. If I could ask for help, any motivation would probably be based on role-play.

I don't think it should be like this without actual multiplayer support.
 
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Tikigod

Tikigod
fus roh potato said:
If it was intended for me to fly in a wing for these missions, then why aren't they wing missions? IIRC, they don't get rewards to help me, there are no LFW tools in game, or even methods to broadcast to local sectors asking for help. If I could ask for help, any motivation would probably be based on role-play.

I don't think it should be like this without actual multiplayer support.
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You're knee jerk reacting over one type of reply you've received yet are ignoring the other replies. Pay attention to other replies about how tackling high security +++ sites are doable solo.

It's more about how you approach it and the specifics of the destination than anything else. Now that missions don't lock you out based on rating and instead the rating is just a indication of challenge, pay more attention to what a mission is rated as before taking it on. Lower to medium rated missions even to high security +++ sites are perfectly manageable solo. I know they are as like I said in my last post I've done a dozen or more surface assault missions since 2.1, and even more prior to 2.1.

From two other threads just to repeat myself:

Tikigod said:
SRVs help simplify it a whole lot.

Base defences fall into two categories:

1) Ship defence.
2) Ground vehicle defence.


Ship defence will never target and attack ground vehicles, and ground vehicle defence will never target and attack ships.

So figuring out if you need to even bother taking out ship defences or if you can always just land outside of base and then approach on foot and just tackle ground defences before getting your skimmers can save you a whole lot of time.


Since 2.1 I've done a half dozen or so ground assault missions to get skimmers at both '++' and '+++' bases, and each time simply landing outside of the bases ship defences and going the rest of the distance in a SRV and taking out targets in that by planning my approach has given me no problems whatsoever... it has also meant I could hit up the bases datanodes and hack into the network for clusters of data to use in later Engineer modifications.
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Tikigod said:
The actual security at +++ varies.

I've had plenty of missions since 2.1 send me to so called '+++' sites that were defended by barely a half dozen laser turrets and a dozen skimmers spread out across the base. The anti-ship defenses are easily avoided by simply landing your ship outside of range and going in on SRV.

So it really depends on the specific +++ site and its layout.
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Mr_sukebe

Mr_sukebe
A few questions if I may.
I tried a mission recently. Drove in towards a base in my SRV, was picked up by a circling security Viper and was promptly shot to pieces.
Assuming I'm trying to do this solo:
Do I knock out all ships first? If I do, will they re-spawn or request backup from off-world ships?
If they start requesting backup and it comes from say another base, is there a typical response time?

Just trying to work out if I can kill the ships first with my own, then go in using my SRV.
 

Chris Simon

Chris Simon
Mr_sukebe said:
A few questions if I may.
I tried a mission recently. Drove in towards a base in my SRV, was picked up by a circling security Viper and was promptly shot to pieces.
Assuming I'm trying to do this solo:
Do I knock out all ships first? If I do, will they re-spawn or request backup from off-world ships?
If they start requesting backup and it comes from say another base, is there a typical response time?

Just trying to work out if I can kill the ships first with my own, then go in using my SRV.
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I am only doing smaller bases, so there's like one ship around and yes, I kill it first. Eventually a new one arrives, but by that time I am done with the objective.
 

Dimensions

D
I think if missions require a wing they should say so. Otherwise it can be fairly frustrating. It seems as if some of the missions were designed for wings not a single player, regardless of rank.
 

shadragon

shadragon
I find I can sneak into a +++ facility (without dropping security doors) and hit the generator as my first offensive act. It's a Brave Sir Robin back to my ship, at speed, and then back to base for tea and medals.
 
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A2lucifer

A
I did 2 yesterday. I made the two. First one easier. Second a little more Hard. I earned 3 millons. And only losed s srv and My conda 30% hull. In My opinion its fine dificulty. Maybe a little easy.
 

rcdcce

rcdcce
High security bases are very hard they're not impossible. And before anyone cries 'content lockout gimme a refund' if you look back to some of the original horizons streams Fd stated several times they intended for base assaults to be available to solo players using different/covert tactics.. Why anyone would expect to charge into something that seriously out guns you and succeed is beyond me. Having said that I wish there was some more subtly to the trespass mechanic. Like ways to not trigger it.
 
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GG7

G
Probably not a good idea to offer these harder base missions to SOLO players. If they are impossible to complete SOLO, then it would be best to not even provide them as an option. There are PLENTY of other mission types that pay that kind of CR and are far easier to complete.

I only play SOLO by the way, and find many of the surface missions incredibly tedious to bother with for what they pay in $$. Different strokes I guess, but I tried one of those base missions and after completing it deemed it not worth my time.
 
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fus roh potato

fus roh potato
I'm pretty sure all missions were intended to be completed solo, otherwise there'd be shared rewards for the wing.

I'd like to see a video of someone assaulting the base with 12 anti-air turrets, 2 goliaths and 3 winged anacondas guarding it plz.
 

Sans Daring

Sans Daring
fus roh potato said:
I'm pretty sure all missions were intended to be completed solo, otherwise there'd be shared rewards for the wing.

I'd like to see a video of someone assaulting the base with 12 anti-air turrets, 2 goliaths and 3 winged anacondas guarding it plz.
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Not sure I agree with the point it should be possible. It gets very hard to set missions that will give challenge to Open wing groups (a popular mode of play) that should be leveled to give fair challenge to single Solo flyers (a popular mode of play). It has to be accepted that some material will not translate, just like in life. You might be able to take on a guy in a bar, but you can't argue its not fair you can't run in and take on several and win - like that gang of guys can.

There are missions that Solo can do for planetary assault that will suitably challenge a solo player. It's almost like saying it's not fair I can't get to play Dangerous missions as Master. You can when you're Dangerous, just like you can here, if you do an Open wing. Seems fair and realistic to me. And I play a lot in solo, so its not a Solo Vs Open debate to me, it's about ensuring we all have challenge in playing an expansive game with different legitimate modes of play.
 

fus roh potato

fus roh potato
I didn't say it wasn't fair or that I'm locked out. I'm saying it appears intended for solo play. It's not the nature of base assault missions or how they should be, but the nature of how missions work in general that makes me say that. You can't share them with wing-mates. They can only join as volunteers. There's no incentive to help someone go do that.

Case in point, this thread literally was me asking for help to complete a +++ and not a single person offered up their wing or a video on how to solo the mission. You guys were too busy measuring your peens.

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Henri

Henri
ehhhh you simply fly up to the base and fire 3 rockets at the generator and fly away.
bringing a wing is just silly. even a casual player, deceased with advanced rigor mortis, no hands so holds and steers the joystick with his mouth can complete these blindfolded.
but if you want ill wing up :D Even with incentive it would be boring, i'll give you that. They need to have their defences seriously beefed up.

the bounty hunters that come after you since the patch when you break the law are the only real thing that makes for some excitement.
of course I should not mention that, this being 'Elite - Safe Space' a cruising a cuddly universe where losing does not exist, consequences
are an illusion and I make the rules not the game simulator for the metrosexual passive aggressive millennials.
 
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fus roh potato

fus roh potato
Henri said:
ehhhh you simply fly up to the base and fire 3 rockets at the generator and fly away.
bringing a wing is just silly. even a casual player, deceased with advanced rigor mortis, no hands so holds and steers the joystick with his mouth can complete these blindfolded.
but if you want ill wing up :D Even with incentive it would be boring, i'll give you that. They need to have their defences seriously beefed up.

the bounty hunters that come after you since the patch when you break the law are the only real thing that makes for some excitement.
of course I should not mention that, this being 'Elite - Safe Space' a cruising a cuddly universe where losing does not exist, consequences
are an illusion and I make the rules not the game simulator for the metrosexual passive aggressive millennials.
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We're not talking about the easy bases.
 
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