lol...that was an ai conda....there is no other human in any of those clips
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Horizons Base assault!
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My camera is locked to the immediate vicinity of my ship. I can maybe move it as far as the next landing pad when docked at Coriolis port. And that takes ages to do.
It depends on the needs of the issuer. If you go to a system with small bases...
so is mine... ?!?!?
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mad mike, I'm fine with solo players doing hard missions, but I do expect them to be hard. other than that, yes I'd not lock anything however I assume not all people will get it done. it looks like your are saying it has to be doable after all and there is where we disagree.
This is what I used to do. It just doesn't work anymore because of the system security and the nerf to dumbfires.
I can see your viewpoint here. Your right, it is indeed some content that can't be done in single player.
The problem comes though, when people who do play multiplayer, want to have content that can challenge their wing of four players, working together in different roles.
You can't really make that without it being too hard for a single player, and if you don't make it, then your cutting multiplayer players off from potential fun for them.
So it's swings and roundabouts really.
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not if you can get npc wingmates to help
Now I admit there are some skills i am lacking in the base raiding department and just because I am strugging does not make it impossible, however I have definitely noticed some "medium" security bases are harder than others, therefore I suggest if it is an especially tough one an advisory that we may need to consider a hired hand could be useful. (hired hand at the moment - hopefully temporarily would = multiplayer)
The base raiding missions are different than the Haz res and high intensity CZs because a kill X pirates or kill Y combatants players can absolutely do the risk managament themselves.
I do get that its impossible to balance the same content for solo and MP and am fine with it, however that is where we need more info before taking on - in lieu of getting npc wings, which SHOULD have come in as far back as 1.2 imo..... if they are good for the ai they should be good for us.
i cant check as I am at work... is there a fine for not completing the base raiding missions? given it is impossible to check how hard the base is (as i said not all medium security bases are equal) I kind of hope there isnt but I cant check..
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not if you can get npc wingmates to help
Now I admit there are some skills i am lacking in the base raiding department and just because I am strugging does not make it impossible, however I have definitely noticed some "medium" security bases are harder than others, therefore I suggest if it is an especially tough one an advisory that we may need to consider a hired hand could be useful. (hired hand at the moment - hopefully temporarily would = multiplayer)
The base raiding missions are different than the Haz res and high intensity CZs because a kill X pirates or kill Y combatants players can absolutely do the risk managament themselves.
I do get that its impossible to balance the same content for solo and MP and am fine with it, however that is where we need more info before taking on - in lieu of getting npc wings, which SHOULD have come in as far back as 1.2 imo..... if they are good for the ai they should be good for us.
i cant check as I am at work... is there a fine for not completing the base raiding missions? given it is impossible to check how hard the base is (as i said not all medium security bases are equal) I kind of hope there isnt but I cant check..
All this is very nice, but NPC wings don't exist. I really hope you are not deliberately pushing the conversation towards the need of NPC wings before FD even dares to say something about them.
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no..... not deliberately derailing but it is the obvious solution to the problem of how to balance solo content without making it too easy for multiplayer. however as i said as an interim a warning on some missions stating that CMDR should maybe consider extra help would do in the mean time.
- again not all "medium security" bases are created equally and unlike other mission types you cant do risk management to choose how to complete the mission.***
You say its all "very nice" in such a way as to sound that you do not consider it important... however that I presume is because you are not bothered about these missions in solo...... I am, hence for me it isnt just a quality of life, "nice to have but not that important" kind of feature.
Personally I look at ED MP much like GTA MP, a nice to have feature ontop of a game you can play solo... You on the other hand dont. Both views are valid imo.
*** again however I admit I have stuff to learn doing these
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Should check youtube for some videos, there are a couple where 2 different guys show how to stack missions for gaining rep doing planet bases. This was pre 2.1 so not sure if they have gotten harder, But when i gave it a go it really wasnt that bad. What i did notice from both these videos was the use of dumbfire missils, which did loads of damage.
im still doing it in a viper mkiv twin pulse lasers and twin missile racks a bi-weave shield a little upgrade on the power plant and distributor, not done a max security base yet but works for me on low med no probs, as for system security ive not really come across any bases with them around so i must just be lucky though i did destroy an eagle on the landing pad
Yeah I'm actually still on the hunt for fed bases that hand those missions out. I got ranked up in Imperial enough to buy a courier in just 2 days.
I don' t....if you simulate a living and breathing universe than there are things that will lead to certain death.
if anything there is nothing locked away....you can take Elite ranked missions when you are harmless in a
sidewinder, you can assault space cities in your hauler....you can do whatever, alone or with friends.
Nothing telling you it is not allowed. Nothing is locked away....
he is saying that content is locked away to you because you play solo and that therefore npc wingmates must be introduced and use that as leverage, hoping people will jump on the bandwagon.
thing is...solo is a choice
that is not to say npc wing men will never be introduced but hopefully only for specific tasks or missions.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lX0cAIhRL3A
right network down at work so i just watched the above..... so, all being well i will have a few hrs tonight to give it a go
now if I get lucky and a mate is on and he comes to help, if we are in a wing how does that go for the scanning stuff when the time is clocking down?
do we BOTH have to scan the data points or can we share scan data? so that if he scans 2 and i scan 3 on a 5 data point base, will that work?
sorry for the noob Q's but if there is nothing in it for my mate i may stuggle to persuade him to risk his ship
right network down at work so i just watched the above..... so, all being well i will have a few hrs tonight to give it a go
now if I get lucky and a mate is on and he comes to help, if we are in a wing how does that go for the scanning stuff when the time is clocking down?
do we BOTH have to scan the data points or can we share scan data? so that if he scans 2 and i scan 3 on a 5 data point base, will that work?
sorry for the noob Q's but if there is nothing in it for my mate i may stuggle to persuade him to risk his ship
Thank you for this!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lX0cAIhRL3A
right network down at work so i just watched the above..... so, all being well i will have a few hrs tonight to give it a go
now if I get lucky and a mate is on and he comes to help, if we are in a wing how does that go for the scanning stuff when the time is clocking down?
do we BOTH have to scan the data points or can we share scan data? so that if he scans 2 and i scan 3 on a 5 data point base, will that work?
sorry for the noob Q's but if there is nothing in it for my mate i may stuggle to persuade him to risk his ship
That's a good question and my research isn't turning up any answers. My assumption however is that you will require one person to be continuously fighting off security, or towing them around if they can maintain agro. If you need an extra SRV to test it out, you can invite me to your friend list.
Nice video!!
Henry, what part of this content is locked down for solo users you don't understand? we need wing npcs or the game will be abandoned!