Then why start discussing it with me in the first place. Sounds like trying to have argument just for the sake of it.
Basic question about ED is it MMO or Co-op single player.
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Then why start discussing it with me in the first place. Sounds like trying to have argument just for the sake of it.
Some things do change. But that is not what it's about. It's not what we think, it's what the individual players who play that think. Also the different states dictate what missions are available there for making the systems more dynamic instead of just a copy and paste with every system.
ED is transgenre and proud. It refuses to conform to any of your outmoded cisgenre identities.
The Earth is not flat. If it were cats would have pushed everything off the edge of it by now.
Elite is an interesting hybrid - Co-Op MO... COMO for short.
We do have cooperative efforts, and we do have Multi-player Online support.
It's generally not Massive, isn't server-based, it's P2P based.
Sigh... is this really necessary? We all have omni-gender restrooms at home. No reason for anything different anywhere else. Nuff said.
Not quite true. Group exploration tags. Wing bonuses. Wing combat. Mining coop works very well as every player can get equal resources from the same rock (although thats the sort of gamification element i don't particularly like). Not to mention coop things like working the BGS and powerplay.
So saying it doesn't is disingenious.
However, it certainly could do with more, and according to FD, more is coming, with coop missions and squadrons.
Will it be enough to please those who want coop? We will have to see.
Even so, its still not a qualifying point for whether a game is an MMO or not. Coop is not a requirement. You could have a 100% PvP only MMO.
Thats a plug-in, those features cant even qualify as basic coop gameplay.
Wha does plugin co-op play mean. I'm sorry but trying understand what you mean.
imagine my surprise to this post, considering I am a member of a group that has dedicated itself to BGS play, and now for three years have cooperated on a large scale to bring multiple Alliance factions to over 20+ systems, had player wars, dealt with the skimmer hordes, etc.
This is certainly not only AEDC's work (Alliance BGS player groups FTW!), but you don't move a superpower from 1.17% of populated systems to 4.0% today just like that. Alliance CMDRs have more than tripled the size of the Alliance through BGS play. Pointless? I'd call it the most persistent and substantial player-driven manipulation of the galaxy/bubble.
It's an MMO with peer to peer connections. Or in other words, a poorly functioning MMO where your character is your ship, but at least its not pay to win.
The multiplayer of this game is very weak and very underdeveloped (technically but most important the gameplay). Wings was released in early 2015 yet we still dont have proper tools and things to do in co-op. I played with friends who live near me and the desynch is very bad. The game still has desynch issues in supercruise (the typical ruberbanding when entering supercruise).
We cant trade anything with other people not even with friends. When Im playing with friends it feels like Im playing alone, choose an instnce and pew pew.
Multicrew came out and omg what a fail, what a FAIL of a co-op update it is, its horrible. I wanted an engineer to control all the ship systems and USEFUL IN ANY SHIP but what we got? a stupid 3rd person camera turret and the ability to use SLF which it feels like you're flying any other ship but more fragile. Not exciting at all.
If you compare the multiplayer of Elite with EVE you realise the lack of features and gameplay for a multiplayer game. EVE has a variaty of roles and customizations and you need to focus in one role at a time so when you're playing with friends the whole group can function efficiently.
Elite was built around single player and it feels like a single player game.
Until we dont get more complexity in the game mechanics Elite will keep being a casual console game with restrictive gameplay.
1. Station announcers change
2. Station colors (if not bugged) and branding change
3. If a superpower change, a different superpower will issue the local superpower bounties
4. If the faction is differently aligned, the galmap system color will change
5. Over time, security levels may change slightly, i.e. a nav beacon might get compromised, or stop being so
6. In rare cases, you can create anomalies in the game. For instance, new Ross 128 permit holders that visit the system will see Allied Police patrol it, and be welcomed to Alliance space, when docking at Warren Prison Mine.
As a group committed to growing the Alliance, each flip to the Alliance is celebrated. And one of the most beautiful thing in this game is Alliance player groups and CMDRs rallying to defend Alliance systems under threat.
Let's see:
no coop missions
no group finder
no guilds
no general system/global chat
no private/custom group comms
no duty finder
no instances with more than 12 people without the p2p system imploding on itself
no global market board/billboard
no player to player trading
The only true multiplayer activity allowed is to manually input the name of another player or add him from actual visual contact ingame and play together in the same exact way as you played alone. Prior to 2.3 this very simple multiplayer mechanic was even disincentivized.
So, again, you can consider Elite an mmo, just don't say it out loud though.
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LOL, well, if you say so. From now on, anything i don't agree with, ill just declare it to be a plug in and not qualify as basic gameplay
no coop missions - not a defining feature of an MMO
no group finder - - not a defining feature of an MMO
no guilds - - not a defining feature of an MMO
no general system/global chat - not a defining feature of an MMO (and not welcome by me regardless, global chats are horrific things that should never be implemented in any game)
no private/custom group comms - not a defining feature of an MMO
no duty finder - not a defining feature of an MMO (whatever this is)
no instances with more than 12 people without the p2p system imploding on itself - not even true, and still not a defining feature of an MMO
no global market board/billboard - not a defining feature of an MMO
no player to player trading - not a defining feature of an MMO
However, it is massively multiplayer online even so. Its not a traditional MMORPG for sure, but it doesn't claim to be one.
64 people in a P2P instance <> massive
Thousands of Cmdrs connected to what is basically just a database <> multiplayer
So .. since we've established nothing in ED is MMO-based; we can all go on with our lives knowing that ED is a video game; and that it really doesn't matter what we label it.
Lordy, 14 pages of this. xD