Best Flight Stick - suggestions needed

Zeeman · Sep 10, 2016

jasonbarron said:
Interesting. The x52 just uses "twist" on the stick for controlling the rudder and that seems very intuitive, but the Warthog doesn't have that option; where would you suggest binding the rudder in that case?

To.. Erm.. A rudder.

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Zeeman · Sep 10, 2016

avow555 said:
A statement that couldn't be further from the truth.
Microsoft Sidewinder 3d Pro was the first twisting stick that I remember and I have used a twist yaw since then.
That stick was out mid 90's!

Actually, I've had that stick, it had a really nice button layout, but needs MARs Sensors and better quality buttons.

And I know not what you are referencing, but my wrists have thanked my since I have been using rudder pedals for yaw.

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Taranis Dekker · Sep 10, 2016

Those of you using pedals... how much of a difference does it make to ED?

Gully Foyle · Sep 10, 2016

Commander Mike said:
Those of you using pedals... how much of a difference does it make to ED?

Yaw becomes unconscious. FA off is easier too.
o7

Zeeman · Sep 10, 2016

It's awesome - they are actually far more precise than twist yaw, I can make adjustments I never could with twist.

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nosscar · Sep 10, 2016

i bought the x52 in feb this year, i heard all the tales of poor quality, but mine from Amazon for £99.98 has been great, no problems in 7 mnths, and is a great hotas for ED.

Bambi · Sep 10, 2016

Some of the older high quality pre-madcatz sticks might still be in stock at various places.

jgm · Sep 10, 2016

Oh and while I'm here a quick plug for my HOTAS reference sheet generator. Link in the sig, but it takes your binds file and creates a handy reference sheet, for example:

Zeeman · Sep 10, 2016

jgm said:
Oh and while I'm here a quick plug for my HOTAS reference sheet generator. Link in the sig, but it takes your binds file and creates a handy reference sheet, for example:

http://www.mcdee.net/elite/configs/jgm-chfighter.jpg

BWAHAHAH! You have the same modifier button as I do on the CH Pro!

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Jypson · Sep 10, 2016

jasonbarron said:
I'm currently using the x52 and it works okay, but it does feel very cheap and I expect it to break any moment. I'm saving up for the Warthog, but I'm kind of at a loss for what to do about rudder control. After buying the Warthog I'll be lucky to have $100.00 left over for any other peripherals; suggestions?

I initially got pedals for yaw, but then installed the Warthog into a recliner, so no more pedals. Now I use the 5-way hat under the thumb on the joystick for Yaw-Left and Yaw-Right. It takes a little getting used to, but I'm completely comfortable with it now.

To those saying don't bother buying a Warthog for Elite, all I can say is, fascists!

j/k! Seriously though, there is no need to drive a sportscar to work or the grocer, but if you can, I highly recommend it! [yesnod]

nosscar · Sep 10, 2016

Bambi said:
Some of the older high quality pre-madcatz sticks might still be in stock at various places.

is there any way to know who built your x52, either saitek or the later madcatz model.

Pville_Piper · Sep 10, 2016

Zeeman said:
Actually, I've had that stick, it had a really nice button layout, but needs MARs Sensors and better quality buttons.

And I know not what you are referencing, but my wrists have thanked my since I have been using rudder pedals for yaw.

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Mine too! My right hand was having serious problem with carpal tunnel and the rudder pedals have helped that immensely.

jgm said:
Oh and while I'm here a quick plug for my HOTAS reference sheet generator. Link in the sig, but it takes your binds file and creates a handy reference sheet, for example:

http://www.mcdee.net/elite/configs/jgm-chfighter.jpg

How many times do you need to bind the thrust axis? You've got like 3 hat switches all set for thrust... :S

Pablo-Diablo · Sep 10, 2016

I use the same X52 since 2004 (the year it came out).

kalniel · Sep 10, 2016

AnotherVoice said:
Interesting readings in this thread, i didn't expect Saitek to have that many issues with their product... i'm also looking to change my stick for a more accurate one, i wanted a X52 but i'll think twice now

My Saitek cyborg 3d gold USB from the 90s is still working great!

TomR · Sep 10, 2016

This is how I have my dual sticks setup. The bottom one is configured for my left hand so the controls are mirrored left/right from what it shows.

https://www.mcdee.net/elite/binds/ukektw?replay=ukektw

KillZoneGB · Sep 10, 2016

Jypson said:
[hotas] I dunno. It started in the throttle when the plastic piece that makes the indent came loose. Then the default boost button stopped responding, and then the castle-hat on the stick stopped responding, and then the stick itself started to separate.

I'm not rough on my gear, it just started to fall apart. So far two buttons on the X55 throttle have stopped responding after a year of use [sad]

Same here, the H4 and E button on the throttle stopped working. (1yr 2days of use)

just sent mine back for a RMA, offered an X56 as a replacement as the X55 is no longer in stock.

just waiting now for the unit to be sent from oxford.

So all is good, and its sort of a free upgrade [wacky]

jasonbarron · Sep 10, 2016

Jypson said:
I initially got pedals for yaw, but then installed the Warthog into a recliner, so no more pedals. Now I use the 5-way hat under the thumb on the joystick for Yaw-Left and Yaw-Right. It takes a little getting used to, but I'm completely comfortable with it now.

To those saying don't bother buying a Warthog for Elite, all I can say is, fascists! j/k! Seriously though, there is no need to drive a sportscar to work or the grocer, but if you can, I highly recommend it! [yesnod]

Big thanks for that tip! I'm trying to avoid getting pedals with that setup if I can, so this option may work for me, too. I hope.

Frenotx · Sep 10, 2016

I use a t16000 for my left hand, and a ch fighter stick for the right. Between the two, I've got all the buttons I need, and both sticks perform wonderfully at their respective jobs.

CMDR-Bullsey · Sep 10, 2016

WizzyThing said:
How did you break yours after just 4 months?
I've been using mine (and still am) for more than a year now and it's not showing any signs of failure.

Same i've had mine for nine month and it's still like new , i think some folk are a bit heavy handed with there's

Jypson · Sep 10, 2016

CMDR-Bullsey said:
Same i've had mine for nine month and it's still like new , i think some folk are a bit heavy handed with there's

Not in my case. Looks like a 'silicone lottery' situation when it comes to Saitek.